Tin Foil And The Small Phunnel

[contristo]

I don't know what it is lately, but no matter how hard I try I can't get my foil to be extremely tight.

it is as tight as i can go and is sealed shut, but whenever I take a hit the tin foil descends to the point where I can see the outline of the middle circle hole. I know from experience that this is negatively impacting my sessions. All good hookahs out of a phunnel in my experience had tin foil that did not react via movement to people taking hits. The tin foil would be tight enough to remain in the same position and would not be sucked in whenever someone took a hit. lately the tin foil has been pulling so hard into the hole that it's been blocking the smoke, thus creating harsh sessions with very little smoke.

I know for a fact the culprit to my latest issues is the lack of my tin foil being tight... it sounds simple but for some reason it is not wrapping tight enough.

Does anyone have any methods for securing tin foil on a small phunnel?

[Arcane]

i've been getting that a lot lately...but, whatever i do doesn't seem to work as well...

so, to compensate...i started packing a little bit more around the phunnel, so the tobacco keeps the foil from dipping down...

[Jacob Shock]

first of all are you poking holes over the phunnel itself?

doing this as well as packing the tobacco a bit higher should solce your problem.

another thing you can do is use a bigger square of foil. after you are done poking holes grab the foil that has been floded down and pull it down. this will cause a tighter "drum".

tou can also use thicker foil. or 2 layers of foil.

[contristo]

[quote name='Arcane' date='19 December 2009 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1261257604' post='440351']
i've been getting that a lot lately...but, whatever i do doesn't seem to work as well...

so, to compensate...i started packing a little bit more around the phunnel, so the tobacco keeps the foil from dipping down...
[/quote]

yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if this was a common issue. maybe it's just because our hookahs have great air flows or something, but it really is frustrating.

i have heard people say that having a space between the foil and hookah is integral to a great hookah, so i don't know if i should try that. overpacking tangiers has always been fine, but when it comes to smoking al fakher and starbuzz (which i have the most of atm) i assume that overpacking would be a huge detriment. if it works though let me know. i usually pack al fakher pretty loose with a small space between the foil and the shisha.

if anyone has any suggestions or tips i would really appreciate it, as would the other people with a similar issue (which is probably a lot)

EDIT: hmm... i'm surprised both of you are endorsing getting rid of the space between the foil and tobacco. i have always heard otherwise but i guess i will give it a try. Edited December 19, 2009 by contristo

[Sonthert]

Heavy foil is easier to get tight without tearing. Holes above the phunnel reduce the problem, putting enough tobacco in to cover the top of the phunnel is good, too. Most of the phunnels have a slight slant to top of the phunnel cone which will reduce the problem.

Remember! Tangiers phunnel bowls were designed for Tangiers Tobacco. Use them with a different brand at your own peril!

[Jacob Shock]

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[joytron]

Sand down the center

[Tsohg_Eci]

i think u may want to try a non-stick foil if u want to pack the tobacco up to the foil. ive heard its a bad idea to have them too close, but i will also try it just to see.

[mix_tape]

I was having that issue as well I actually put an elastic band around stem of the bowl to hold the foil in place. I can't remember who I saw doing this but so far it has helped me tones.

[Sonthert]

Or alternately, fashion a small foil mod for the top of the phunnel...it would be small "globs" of foil folded over the top of the phunnel.

[Charley]

[quote name='Charley' date='01 December 2009 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1259648622' post='433570']
ok here is the video.

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and here is a close up pic of the foil because it did not show well in the video.


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[/quote]


heres a video I made a while back to help someone else who was having a problem similar to yours.

this is what i do myself when i want to save shisha it lets me underpack without having the hole blocked.

[Charley]

well never mind i cant get the video to show in the quote and i cant find where its uploaded to now. sorry

here is the post that the quote came from.

http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/35051-hookah-problem/page__p__433704__hl__charley__fromsearch__1&#entry433704

[contristo]

[quote name='Sonthert' date='19 December 2009 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1261269683' post='440419']
Or alternately, fashion a small foil mod for the top of the phunnel...it would be small "globs" of foil folded over the top of the phunnel.
[/quote]

globs? it sounds interesting, but do you actually mean i should put tin foil IN the phunnel? wouldn't that burn the foil and make it really hot and make the shisha taste like tin foil? maybe i'm just not understanding the description. if anyone has any pictures it would help.

i will also try that elastic band idea, though i can't find any at the moment.

...if only all brands could be packed like tangiers

[jeremyk]

[quote name='contristo' date='20 December 2009 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1261336793' post='440586']
[quote name='Sonthert' date='19 December 2009 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1261269683' post='440419']
Or alternately, fashion a small foil mod for the top of the phunnel...it would be small "globs" of foil folded over the top of the phunnel.
[/quote]

globs? it sounds interesting, but do you actually mean i should put tin foil IN the phunnel? wouldn't that burn the foil and make it really hot and make the shisha taste like tin foil? maybe i'm just not understanding the description. if anyone has any pictures it would help.

i will also try that elastic band idea, though i can't find any at the moment.

...if only all brands could be packed like tangiers [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif[/img]
[/quote]

i think he means put pieces with gaps inbetween on the rim of the phunnel opening

[contristo]

[quote name='jeremyk' date='20 December 2009 - 07:42 PM' timestamp='1261363376' post='440649']
[quote name='contristo' date='20 December 2009 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1261336793' post='440586']
[quote name='Sonthert' date='19 December 2009 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1261269683' post='440419']
Or alternately, fashion a small foil mod for the top of the phunnel...it would be small "globs" of foil folded over the top of the phunnel.
[/quote]

globs? it sounds interesting, but do you actually mean i should put tin foil IN the phunnel? wouldn't that burn the foil and make it really hot and make the shisha taste like tin foil? maybe i'm just not understanding the description. if anyone has any pictures it would help.

i will also try that elastic band idea, though i can't find any at the moment.

...if only all brands could be packed like tangiers [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif[/img]
[/quote]

i think he means put pieces with gaps inbetween on the rim of the phunnel opening
[/quote]

interesting... I may try it. but for now, mix_tape's advice works like a charm. putting an elastic band over the bottom part of the tin foil works like a charm and the tin foil is as rigid as ever. thanks for the tips guys... hookahforum delivers with more than one correct response as usual. very helpful, now it's time to smoke

[inino]

sand down the center.

[contristo]

[quote name='inino' date='21 December 2009 - 04:23 PM' timestamp='1261437803' post='440834']
sand down the center.
[/quote]

wouldn't this just make it pull down even more though? i assume the issue is the phunnel hole being too low because it pulls the foil down to wherever the circle opening is if the foil is not tight enough. i thought that if the beginning of the opening was higher up near the foil then it would hold the foil over the tobacco because the foil would have nowhere to sink down. this was obviously designed for tangiers as eric said, which is a tobacco where overpacking is encouraged. but al fakher and starbuzz need the space between the shisha and foil and the only current way for me to do it is to use an elastic band. that is currently working fine though.

i'm just curious as to what everyone else does since i know for a fact many people smoke al fakher and starbuzz out of the phunnel. if you don't, what do you smoke it out of? those are juicy tobaccos and i am not aware of another good bowl that prevents leakage

[Chreees]

These are all good remedies. Thankfully I don't have this problem with my small. I think the best permanent solution would be to sand it down a bit. Also make sure you're using good heavy duty Reynolds foil. The cheap crap doesn't cut it. You want the foil as tight as you can get it.

[mix_tape]

glad it worked for you
Its a nifty little trick