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[quote name='taxx' date='07 January 2010 - 12:58 AM' timestamp='1262782693' post='443495']
have you ever had some shit come out the hose into your mouth? its all like grainy cooked shisha kinda? was smoking from an egyptian bowl.
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Sounds like it might be rust from a dirty hose. Do you clean your hose (wash if washable/blow through it before and after sessions if not)?
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It wasn't shisha. It's almost impossible to do it. It's rust. Water can get in the hose and start reacting inside the non washable hoses and breaking down the coil. Rust is a cascading effect. Just because you blew it out doesn't mean you won't have more breaking free within minutes of smoking. Time for a new hose.
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[quote name='Vladimir' date='06 January 2010 - 11:24 AM' timestamp='1262795047' post='443523']
I think it can also be little wood particles if you have wooden handles. My old hoses had this problem, pretty confident it was NOT rust.
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I have a washable mya and this happens all the time. I think it is from when i wash it. all the gunk that was along the whole hose has now been dissolved and dried in the droplets of water that are left.I think the flecks are concentrated smoke.
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[quote name='Venger' date='06 January 2010 - 10:56 AM' timestamp='1262796968' post='443526']
[quote name='Vladimir' date='06 January 2010 - 11:24 AM' timestamp='1262795047' post='443523']
I think it can also be little wood particles if you have wooden handles. My old hoses had this problem, pretty confident it was NOT rust.
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I have a washable mya and this happens all the time. I think it is from when i wash it. all the gunk that was along the whole hose has now been dissolved and dried in the droplets of water that are left.I think the flecks are concentrated smoke.
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I don't thinks so. Mya has several "washable" hoses, but they still have metal coils in them and are not "rust proof"
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[quote name='taxx' date='06 January 2010 - 03:58 PM' timestamp='1262782693' post='443495']
have you ever had some shit come out the hose into your mouth? its all like grainy cooked shisha kinda? was smoking from an egyptian bowl.
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That is the nastiest feeling ever, isn't it? If you have a washable hose, definitely run some water thru it. If not, try one of those computer air cleaners and blow a high powered stream of air thru. You might just have to get a new hose.
BJ
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[quote name='taxx' date='06 January 2010 - 12:17 PM' timestamp='1262798255' post='443535']
yeah the handle is wood, and Im gonig to take my hose to work and get the air hose out and blast it thru a few times. I will see what happeneds.
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Thats about the best thing you can do. Like Stuie said, mya has many "washable" hoses, but they still have coils and will rust. As for it being shisha, just think about it. The ash/shisha would have to go down the downstem, in the water, up through the air, and into the hose.
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[quote name='taxx' date='06 January 2010 - 01:07 PM' timestamp='1262801255' post='443544']
lol :( yes it sounds funny


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Don't worry, you're not the first one to think that. :)
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if the "sand" is black...its rust...

if you have wooden handles/tips, and the "sand" is white-ish/yellow-ish....it's just wood particles...

i have a few wooden handles and every now and then a wood particle would come loose...
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When you blow out the hose are the particles that come out white? or are they black/red shiny? I'm 99.9% positive it's rust plaguing you man. I've had wooden tipped hoses and it was very very rare that I ever got any wood pieces. If it's happening very often it's rust.


Hate to hear it happened. BUT when your new hose comes in rip open your old one and you'll never buy a non washable again.
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[quote name='liquidglass' date='06 January 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1262830016' post='443658']
When you blow out the hose are the particles that come out white? or are they black/red shiny? I'm 99.9% positive it's rust plaguing you man. I've had wooden tipped hoses and it was very very rare that I ever got any wood pieces. If it's happening very often it's rust.


Hate to hear it happened. BUT when your new hose comes in rip open your old one and you'll never buy a non washable again.
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really? i'm tempted to take apart one of my non-washables now
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[quote name='kvtaco17' date='06 January 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1262807182' post='443563']
I hate it when I suck on my hose and shit comes out... (someone sig it, you know you want to lol)
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Sigged.
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[quote name='Arcane' date='06 January 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1262830150' post='443659']
[quote name='liquidglass' date='06 January 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1262830016' post='443658']
When you blow out the hose are the particles that come out white? or are they black/red shiny? I'm 99.9% positive it's rust plaguing you man. I've had wooden tipped hoses and it was very very rare that I ever got any wood pieces. If it's happening very often it's rust.


Hate to hear it happened. BUT when your new hose comes in rip open your old one and you'll never buy a non washable again.
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really? i'm tempted to take apart one of my non-washables now
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Do IT!

I wish I had taken pics when I modded my cobra hoses on the in between stages. Basically when I ripped them apart nothing but rust pretty much. My old KM hose was even worse. Before I took them all apart I blew air into one end and watch a shower of rust colored confetti come out of the other end.

Trust me, if you do take yours apart you will be astounded at the shit you have inhaled and you'll never get a non-washable again.
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you don't have to wash a nonwashable hose for rust to form. since shisha contains glycerine, and glycerine extracts moisture, all you have to do is smoke and the glycerine will make water form in the hose, causing rust. or at least this is my theory. But either way, ive had a non washable hose start rusting when i hadn't even washed it. then again, i smoke a lot of layalina which is really juicy, pretty much soup.
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[quote name='delSol_si' date='07 January 2010 - 01:39 AM' timestamp='1262846348' post='443704']
[b]you don't have to wash a nonwashable hose[/b] for rust to form. since shisha contains glycerine, and glycerine extracts moisture, all you have to do is smoke and the glycerine will make water form in the hose, causing rust. or at least this is my theory. But either way, ive had a non washable hose start rusting when i hadn't even washed it. then again, i smoke a lot of layalina which is really juicy, pretty much soup.
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I don't think anyone was arguging. I agree with your theory, I have NEVER washed non-washable hoses but of course they form water vapor inside and rust anyway. Which makes sense because of the hot smoke hitting the room temperature water, developing a vapor that would travel into the hose.
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When I had my wood handled hoses I blew them out with an air compressor (which I bought to clean my guns, and find it invaluable for cleaning EVERYTHING- from guns to hookahs to bowls to computers and keyboards, etc)... it would severely cut back on the particles but not eliminate completely. I am not really a big fan of my aftermarket hose (not to dump on the hose itself, I am not a fan of big handles and the huge gauge- though I am growing to like it as I get used to it)- but I use it/bought it because shit doesn't come out of it ^_^, and that part is [u]very[/u] nice!
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[quote name='HookahJohn' date='06 January 2010 - 08:20 PM' timestamp='1262798445' post='443536']
am i the only one that things op's post is funny? sorry taxx, just having fun, you bring up a common issue, i was just saying, it sounded a bit funny and all[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/empathy.gif[/img]
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LOL! John, MY MIND went there but i thought I was the only one so I kept my mouth shut......(which may be a first for me!)
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