LZ22 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I am looking at getting a new hose if what I am looking for exists, which is where everyone's collective knowledge comes into play... I currently use a Nammor hose. I really like it and I don't have big problem with it. My only gripe is the hose is super stiff. Its more of a personal preference really, but I'd like a hose thats more flexible but still has the easy draw of a Nammor and fully washable (and also looks cool). Anything worth looking into? I can't really find much information by just reading about them on vendor sites so I am in need of some user feedback! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) [quote name='LZ22' date='07 January 2010 - 03:27 PM' timestamp='1262899620' post='443817'] I am looking at getting a new hose if what I am looking for exists, which is where everyone's collective knowledge comes into play... I currently use a Nammor hose. I really like it and I don't have big problem with it. My only gripe is the hose is super stiff. Its more of a personal preference really, but I'd like a hose thats more flexible but still has the easy draw of a Nammor and fully washable (and also looks cool). Anything worth looking into? I can't really find much information by just reading about them on vendor sites so I am in need of some user feedback! Thanks [/quote] Yeah my nammors always been kinda stiff also..... I have a caravan hose that is extremely flexible, the outside is like a faux velvet or suede type material. Its completely washable too. I bought it from a local shop in St. Louis but im sure you can find them online. Caravan hose = washable, large diameter, completely flexible, and i bought mine for 15 bucks. Edit; The hookah has some [url="http://www.thehookah.com/caravan-washable-hookah-hose.html"]Grand Caravan hose[/url] And ive had mine for a little over a year and it shows no signs of age whatsoever. Edited January 7, 2010 by tpatt90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NimbleCow Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I've found too that my Grand softens up every time I wash it--gets better with age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 KM hoses are my preference, but as far as flexibility they are probably equal to nammor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I have enjoyed my Narbish, but it is very stiff (not sure how that compares to the Namor though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I don't find my hose stiff very stiff... <----Sig it, I know you wanna. Seriously though, I have the Nammor and in terms of stiffness I don't find it very stiff compared to the Narbish I guess. If you're looking for flexible, probably a standard Mya hose is your best bet... All of the washables are going to be that same "stiff" kinda hose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ22 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='07 January 2010 - 07:08 PM' timestamp='1262912901' post='443855'] I don't find my hose stiff very stiff... <----Sig it, I know you wanna. Seriously though, I have the Nammor and in terms of stiffness I don't find it very stiff compared to the Narbish I guess. If you're looking for flexible, probably a standard Mya hose is your best bet... All of the washables are going to be that same "stiff" kinda hose... [/quote] Ya, I just can't go back to those smaller Mya hoses anymore...its just so easy to draw on the nammor! Maybe I just have unrealistic expectations. Thanks to everyone else for recommendations. I'm gonna look into them and do some more research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 just wait. i've had mine for a couple years now and it's pretty soft (sig it, bastards). i think they loosen up with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Seriously guys... begging to get sigged is so... guido/broish... to draw from a previous thread. "LaWl SoMeThInG ReCoCkUlUs... plz sig me" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvtaco17 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='07 January 2010 - 07:08 PM' timestamp='1262912901' post='443855'] I don't find my hose stiff very stiff... <----Sig it, I know you wanna. Seriously though, I have the Nammor and in terms of stiffness I don't find it very stiff compared to the Narbish I guess. If you're looking for flexible, probably a standard Mya hose is your best bet... All of the washables are going to be that same "stiff" kinda hose... [/quote] Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 [quote name='Vladimir' date='07 January 2010 - 11:38 PM' timestamp='1262929135' post='443876'] Seriously guys... begging to get sigged is so... guido/broish... to draw from a previous thread. "LaWl SoMeThInG ReCoCkUlUs... plz sig me" [/quote] We aren't begging to be sigged... We're just acknowledging the fact that what we're saying is going to be taken as a sexual innuendo and that there's a high chance of us being sigged... EDIT: And never, EVER again say something I said sounds "broish"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amn_sinclair Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 this thread has potential for a lot of sigs lol. i mean stiff hooses, limp hoses... this is gonna get bad lol... in regards to the op though i have a nammor hose and mine is pretty flexablie i dont have any problems with it. maybe the cleaning with hot water has helped it become more limber [quote name='antouwan' date='08 January 2010 - 05:45 AM' timestamp='1262925931' post='443872'] i think they loosen up with age. [/quote] this is getting sigged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 [IMG]http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss156/delsol_si/IMG_0519.jpg[/IMG] [font="Lucida Grande"][size="2"][color="#666666"][size="2"]thats my fav so far. Plenty flexible, completely washable, disassembles easily, interchangeable parts. Rebuilt razan [/size][/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Most badass hose ever del... I feel like my razan is pretty flexible and not to stiff (it's like 2 years old, so that could be why). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyuaa1 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hello, this is great article. I have blog and I thanks to say you thanks. Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasHookah Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I use a Razan hose and a MYA Washable hose. MYA Washable when I don't feel like taking a big hose along with me on trips. The Razan, Nammor, and Grand hose all are going to be a little stiff due to the fact they are wider and practically all three are same hose in design with little differences. Regular hoses tend to be more flexible due to not being as wide in diameter. The MYA Washable is cheap and fully washable and a lot more flexible then the bigger, wider hoses. The drawback is that the pull is not as easy as your Nammor or Razan. Got to weigh the pros and cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahl071 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Have any of you tried the wide-body Myas yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 [quote name='rahl071' date='08 January 2010 - 11:40 AM' timestamp='1262972415' post='443958'] Have any of you tried the wide-body Myas yet? [/quote] They really aren't much better than a normal mya hose. Maybe a little. But not a whole lot I can tell the age of my nammors by how stiff they are. I have a nammor for 2 years it's pretty flexible comparatively to new ones. I like the pull on the grand, but they are too light...it like to have some weight in my hose handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Leather hoses. For sure. Its a good enough material for S&M, its a good enough material for hoses. That Caravan hose, you linked is the regular Caravan Hose and unless they changed how they were being made, its made with plastic coils, not stainless steel. I've never seen the need for a washable hose. 4 leather hoses that you don't wash should be satisfactory. Nobody complains about how my hookahs smoke and I never use washable/never wash my hoses. The head pieces of leather hoses, yeah, remove them, give them a quick brush and rinse. Thats the only part that really needs washing...whichever kind of hose you have, I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ22 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Sonthert' date='09 January 2010 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1263074023' post='444189'] Leather hoses. For sure. Its a good enough material for S&M, its a good enough material for hoses. That Caravan hose, you linked is the regular Caravan Hose and unless they changed how they were being made, its made with plastic coils, not stainless steel. I've never seen the need for a washable hose. 4 leather hoses that you don't wash should be satisfactory. Nobody complains about how my hookahs smoke and I never use washable/never wash my hoses. The head pieces of leather hoses, yeah, remove them, give them a quick brush and rinse. Thats the only part that really needs washing...whichever kind of hose you have, I would think. [/quote] What kind of hoses do you use? I've always been under the impression that washable is the way to go? Wouldn't non-washable get really nasty after a while with no way to clean them? Out of the unwashable hoses, which ones are wide like nammors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Km Hoses : some are leather, non washable, wide diameter, flexible, really long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 [quote name='LZ22' date='10 January 2010 - 02:19 AM' timestamp='1263115142' post='444311'] [quote name='Sonthert' date='09 January 2010 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1263074023' post='444189'] Leather hoses. For sure. Its a good enough material for S&M, its a good enough material for hoses. That Caravan hose, you linked is the regular Caravan Hose and unless they changed how they were being made, its made with plastic coils, not stainless steel. I've never seen the need for a washable hose. 4 leather hoses that you don't wash should be satisfactory. Nobody complains about how my hookahs smoke and I never use washable/never wash my hoses. The head pieces of leather hoses, yeah, remove them, give them a quick brush and rinse. Thats the only part that really needs washing...whichever kind of hose you have, I would think. [/quote] What kind of hoses do you use? I've always been under the impression that washable is the way to go? Wouldn't non-washable get really nasty after a while with no way to clean them? Out of the unwashable hoses, which ones are wide like nammors? [/quote] I use leather hoses, either Thamseh or KM. I've never had a problem. I have hoses that are 5 and 6 years old I retired that still don't smell like anything. Not like leather so much, any more, but like generic hookah smell. The mint hoses might have a very faint mint aroma, but that's about it. Like I said, cleaning out the headpiece is the only thing that is necessary. They're removable on good leather hoses. All leather hoses are wide (that I've seen) like the Nammor. I recycle and reuse wooden stem pieces too. They don't impart flavor that I've seen. The only problem comes from some old brass-cased headpieces. They can impart a metallic flavor. Since I haven't seen a new one in 4 years, I think that problems really quite minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 [quote name='Sonthert' date='12 January 2010 - 06:11 AM' timestamp='1263301871' post='444737'] I use leather hoses, either Thamseh or KM.[/quote] Eric, can you be more specific on which hoses you use? We're currently using Razans, Nammors, and Grands at our lounge but are looking for something smaller and less expensive to use with our lowest tier (QT's). Also, do you think the fact that you use different hoses for different flavors has something to do with why you don't get ghosting complaints? We have too many flavors and/or not enough hoses to have that kind of setup so I'm not sure if we would see the same success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Well, to a degree...but I would imagine a collection of old hoses would have some bias on terms of smell if they were separated by flavor. Pitted fruits would smell like peach/apricot, melons would smell melony, bunch fruits would smell berry-like. None exists on my old hoses. Like I said, one mint hose has a very slight mintishness to it, but the other ones (including another mint hose) doesn't. They're all marked for the flavors they came from. Cleaning the head piece does about as much as needs to be done. I would go so far as to say, if most washable hoses came with removable head pieces, you wouldn't need to wash the main section. Leather hoses don't seem to pick up transient flavors as much as pleather does. For the wholesale people, they are cheaper/the same price. Since you can replace the hose section if it dies, its much cheaper. Tangiers seems to inhibit rust on them or they don't rust as frequently. I think its the Tangiers/molasses. We only use 14 different hose/hookah variations and it works nicely. Note all these comments are in regards to Tangiers. I make nor offer an opinion regarding the use of hoses with other brands. Some brands of tobacco use very dirty flavorings that stick like crazy. I tried smoking some blue flower the other night at Hookah Company out of a hose that had fuzzy navel smoked out of it. The orange terpene flavor never subsided. That being said, water wouldn't have taken out the terpene either. The flavors that impact the flavors the most aren't water soluble so washing them with water ain't gonna help. Get some beer or rubbing alcohol, then we can work with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Eric, can you post a link to the hoses you use? I'd like to get a few for field testing but want to make sure they're the right ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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