joytron Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 [quote name='Hookah-burgar' date='27 January 2010 - 02:23 PM' timestamp='1264630996' post='448027'] Chinamon, Lucky You, I am expecting my first Elmas Nargile to arrive tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. I love these pipes and their hoses. Went mad about them as soon as I discovered the Websites ("Elmas Nargile" for Turkey and "Elmas-originale" from Germany). Two days after finding the webs, per chance, I bought my first (number 632) from the German site, since this is far simpler and better made than the Turkish website. The price of DHL from Germany to Spain seemed also quite interesting. I am just waiting for the package to arrive. Again Congratulations! Very nice narguile you have. I am pretty sure it will work fine. My two old fashioned Tunisian quality ones, which are quite similar, smoke very well indeed! [/quote] be sure to post up some pics of the tunisians as well as the elma when it arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Would love to see those...Also did you pick up some of the Elmas tobacco from the german site Hookah-burger? I have also seen pics of Elmas brand bamboo coals on a site somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 [quote name='twoapplesplease' date='28 January 2010 - 01:37 AM' timestamp='1264639051' post='448042'] Would love to see those...Also did you pick up some of the Elmas tobacco from the german site Hookah-burger? I have also seen pics of Elmas brand bamboo coals on a site somewhere [/quote] Well Twoapplesplease, I will be sending pics of my pipes as soon as I make new ones, probably during next WE. As for Turkish Molasses branded Elmas, I did not buy any, yet, but the reviews I read on german fora where pretty good. We 'll have to try one day. Since I am thinking of buying more stuff from [url="http://www.elmas-originale.de"]http://www.elmas-originale.de[/url] I might, next time, buy some molasses and maybee coal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anybody registered on the German site, and noticed DHL is like €30 to America...but standard shipping comes in at €0.00? I wonder if I place an order, if that'll slide.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 [quote name='joytron' date='28 January 2010 - 12:17 AM' timestamp='1264634268' post='448034'] [quote name='Hookah-burgar' date='27 January 2010 - 02:23 PM' timestamp='1264630996' post='448027'] Chinamon, Lucky You, I am expecting my first Elmas Nargile to arrive tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. I love these pipes and their hoses. Went mad about them as soon as I discovered the Websites ("Elmas Nargile" for Turkey and "Elmas-originale" from Germany). Two days after finding the webs, per chance, I bought my first (number 632) from the German site, since this is far simpler and better made than the Turkish website. The price of DHL from Germany to Spain seemed also quite interesting. I am just waiting for the package to arrive. Again Congratulations! Very nice narguile you have. I am pretty sure it will work fine. My two old fashioned Tunisian quality ones, which are quite similar, smoke very well indeed! [/quote] be sure to post up some pics of the tunisians as well as the elma when it arrives [/quote] [color=#5D5D5D][font=tahoma][size=2]Well my parcel from ELMAS-ORIGINALE finally arrived!!! It arrived!!! It arrived at the nearest Post Office... [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif[/img][/size][/font][/color] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2] [/size][/color][/size][/font] [color=#5D5D5D][font=tahoma][size=2]When they brought it, this morning, I was not at home... [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/dash1.gif[/img] So we will have to wait until tomorrow afternoon, when I will able to pick it up at the local Post Office. Anyway, it seems that shipping time was ok. I bought it on Friday it arrived after 4 days (not counting the WE). Promising for further purchases... [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/good2.gif[/img] (and all for about 20 €, of shipping cost...) [/size][/font][/color] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2] [/size][/color][/size][/font] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2]I will send pics (of my other pipes too) and report on the small ELMAS nargile, since I will try it on Saturday [color=#000000][font=Verdana][size=3][img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 [quote name='Codename067' date='09 January 2010 - 06:59 AM' timestamp='1263016743' post='444096'] I will gladly volunteer to be the first member to test this lovely stem [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif[/img] Love the detail on that stem man, all we need now is some smoking pics [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/_sheesha2__by_Majunka_aurore.gif[/img] [b]Fun fact:[/b] The name "Elmas" means "Diamond" in Arabic. The more proper way of saying it is Almas, but still, I think that's what they were aiming for. [/quote] Funny indeed, but in Turkish I believe "Elma" means "apples" (since that is what is written on apple flavoured molasses boxes...) (in Arabic, "apple" would be "Toffaa", I think) Anyway, I love ELMAS narguiles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Tuffah/Tiffah in Arabic, yup. Elma certainly does mean apple in Turkish, but the plural is Elmalar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' date='29 January 2010 - 12:17 AM' timestamp='1264720653' post='448201'] Tuffah/Tiffah in Arabic, yup. Elma certainly does mean apple in Turkish, but the plural is Elmalar. [/quote] Naam wa barakalaufik ya Hassouni! (yes and thank You so much Hassouni) ;-) "Hookah burdar" (meaning the domestic in charge of preparing, taking care of and transporting the Shisha, in India, in the old times...) looking forward to picking up his parcel at the Post Office and opening it before lunch time![img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] I hope to make some pics of the unpacking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 [quote name='Hookah-burgar' date='29 January 2010 - 01:54 PM' timestamp='1264769657' post='448364'] [quote name='Hassouni' date='29 January 2010 - 12:17 AM' timestamp='1264720653' post='448201'] Tuffah/Tiffah in Arabic, yup. Elma certainly does mean apple in Turkish, but the plural is Elmalar. [/quote] Naam wa barakalaufik ya Hassouni! (yes and thank You so much Hassouni) ;-) "Hookah burdar" (meaning the domestic in charge of preparing, taking care of and transporting the Shisha, in India, in the old times...) looking forward to picking up his parcel at the Post Office and opening it before lunch time![img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] I hope to make some pics of the unpacking... [/quote] Well dear friends, not only did my first ELMAS NARGILE arrive from Germany after 4 days, but I then ordered a second one, this time a bigger one, same model as Chinamon's, which arrived 5 days. So the German site works very well indeed. The girl in charge seems to understand my wishes very well and chose very beautiful hoses indeed. Now, I must agree with some comments I have read in this and others threads: [list][*]Elmas massive brass narguiles are indeed beautiful. They are simple but quite well made, in general. True that the union between the two welded halves of the beautifully decorated stem can be seen, even if it has been polished. They smoke well, and having traditional Tunisian shishas, I do not care about their not having purges: I seldom use purges at all.[/list] Now there a couple of points which disappointed me: [list][*]First, the stuff provided to seal all the unions is great, except for the hose. Anyway, this works better when the attachment is straight, like in Chinamon's stem. Mine looks a bit more like Tunisian, or for that purpose Egyptian hookahs stem sockets: it is curved. So it works better with a rubber union.[*]Now, the hoses: they look great, fantastic, very impressive very wide and very big, but the big ones are definitely NOT AIRTIGHT. I got better results with a miserable Mitsuba chinese ordinary hose. So the feel of them is exciting, the craftmanship looks great, but I will have to resort to modern stuff like Nammor, Razan or Hookah-John's stuff, at least if I want huge clouds. Perhaps not if, as I plan, I use this narguiles for straight tobaccos, like Desi Murli, Zaghloul, Bata and the like... We'll see.[/list] I still have to learn how to upload pictures: I made plenty of them.[attachment=4787:Nuevo Elmas Nargile.JPG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Dammit.....here in the US we have to pay €40-50 just for shipping.....I finally got my Turkish-speaking friend to help me write an email to the Elmas HQ in İzmir....we'll see what happens. I want one of these so bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/Turkish-Original-Hookah-Stainles-Steel_W0QQitemZ260576869933QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3cab977e2d#ht_500wt_941 this guy claims this is a turkish hookah...comes with a KM hose though, so i dunno. the tray looks turkish at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 [quote name='Hookah-burgar' date='30 March 2010 - 04:50 PM' timestamp='1269982254' post='460844'] [list][*]Now, the hoses: they look great, fantastic, very impressive very wide and very big, but the big ones are definitely NOT AIRTIGHT. I got better results with a miserable Mitsuba chinese ordinary hose. So the feel of them is exciting, the craftmanship looks great, but I will have to resort to modern stuff like Nammor, Razan or Hookah-John's stuff, at least if I want huge clouds. Perhaps not if, as I plan, I use this narguiles for straight tobaccos, like Desi Murli, Zaghloul, Bata and the like... We'll see.[/list] I still have to learn how to upload pictures: I made plenty of them.[attachment=4787:Nuevo Elmas Nargile.JPG] [/quote] How exactly are they not airtight...is there an obvious place it's leaking? I mean, might it be possible to seal up any leaks? Because visually they're the best looking hoses ever. I'm curious, it looks like you have the same model as Chinamon (639) but the hose port is different....is it indeed model 639? Definitely upload more pics! [quote name='delSol_si' date='30 March 2010 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1269984664' post='460857'] [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/Turkish-Original-Hookah-Stainles-Steel_W0QQitemZ260576869933QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?NHT (Non-Hookah Tobacco)=item3cab977e2d#ht_500wt_941"]http://cgi.ebay.com/...2d#ht_500wt_941[/url] this guy claims this is a turkish hookah...comes with a KM hose though, so i dunno. the tray looks turkish at least [/quote] The shaft, tray, and bowl are genuinely Turkish from the look of it. It's expensive though...that model from Elmas (one of the most expensive producers) is about 80 TL, which is like 60 bucks...and that may not be an Elmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 [color=#5D5D5D][font=tahoma][size=2][color=#2B3730][size=2][b]Hookah-burgar, on 30 March 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:[/b][/size][/color] [size=2][list][*]Now, the hoses: they look great, fantastic, very impressive very wide and very big, but the big ones are definitely NOT AIRTIGHT. I got better results with a miserable Mitsuba chinese ordinary hose. So the feel of them is exciting, the craftmanship looks great, but I will have to resort to modern stuff like Nammor, Razan or Hookah-John's stuff, at least if I want huge clouds. Perhaps not if, as I plan, I use this narguiles for straight tobaccos, like Desi Murli, Zaghloul, Bata and the like... We'll see.[/list] I still have to learn how to upload pictures: I made plenty of them.[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_images/clean2/attachicon.gif[/img] [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=4787"]Nuevo [color=#FFFFFF][size=4]Elmas[/size][/color] Nargile.JPG[/url][/size] How exactly are they not airtight...is there an obvious place it's leaking? I mean, might it be possible to seal up any leaks? Because visually they're the best looking hoses ever. I'm curious, it looks like you have the same model as Chinamon (639) but the hose port is different....is it indeed model 639? Definitely upload more pics![/size][/font][/color] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2] [/size][/color][/size][/font] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2]Well yes, my Nargile is indeed a 639 (called "Tügrali Dünyali" in the Turkish site). Being made by craftsmen, it might hapen that hose ports used might differ. [/size][/color][/size][/font] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2]Now, as for the hoses, I would believe it has to do with the materials used, with the seams and so on. Leaks are not that bad, but definitely they are not airtight. Having read the experiences of owners of such narguiles, both in North America and in germany, I see that, except for Turkish Youngsters in Germany, proud to smoke in Turkish stuff, all others (Germans, Canadians or users in the US) replace their "lovely" and "beautiful" hoses with Nammor, Razan or Narbish ones... As said, if You smoke tombak, and are not concerned about making huge clouds, it would probably be OK. Now, the thing is that the Turkish Youngsters making reviews on Youtube, obtain huge clouds with those very same hoses...[/size][/color][/size][/font] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2]Perhaps tonight (in 2 or 3 hours), with a decent tobacco and a couple of coconaras I will succed [color=#000000][font=Verdana][size=3][img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img] [color=#5D5D5D][font=tahoma][size=2]in having a better smoke with my otherwise beautiful Elmas Nargile.[/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/font] [font="tahoma"][size="3"][color="#5D5D5D"][size=2]Will try to upload more pictures of my hookahs...[/size][/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 On their site it says 639 is 86cm...is that with the windcover on, or is that with no bowl in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' date='01 April 2010 - 08:46 PM' timestamp='1270151192' post='461337'] On their site it says 639 is 86cm...is that with the windcover on, or is that with no bowl in? [/quote] Well Hassouni, model 639 is 86 cm [b]with the windcover on[/b]. Nevertheless I find it tall enough! Yesterday evening I smoked NAKHLA MIZO peach flavor with it, and with the original leather hose, and it was a decent smoke! [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img] After the first attempt with - disgusting - Romman double apple, this was a great relief! My girlfriend and I enjoyed the session, and the narghile looked absolutely beautiful with the [i]Tugral[/i] (Sultan's cipher in Arabic calligraphy) engraved on the stem. In my opinion, this "Tügrali Dünyali" (model 639) is one of the most beautiful ELMAS hookahs and one of the most sensible buys. Some others seem to me way to expensive (on the Net - since I understand prices in Turkey are much lower). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Thanks for measuring! Yeah the Tuğralı-Dünyalı and the standard Tuğralı (618) are my two favorites.... Elmas Turkey HQ never responded to my email from a week ago asking if they can sell directly to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emberke202 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 i've found a website http://www.nargileplus.com which is far cheaper than that german one. It's in turkey, i dont know if the hookahs are elma, but they seem to be the same. Also they sell Serbetli tobacco, which imo is the best shisha i've ever tried. Go for it if u can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I don't think those are Elmas, but they're similar (Elmas's designs are pretty standard in Turkey). The problem with Nargileplus is you can't buy straight from them...the options they give you are from Gitti Gidiyor, which is a Turkish ebay affiliate that does not give you an option to register from outside Turkey; and Sahibinden, which does let you register outside Turkey, but the checkout procedure is very bizarre, and it doesn't tell you how much shipping is before you place an orer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 and the fact it sells NHT pipes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrum055 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 0_0 I came Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' date='05 April 2010 - 12:13 AM' timestamp='1270422818' post='461835'] I don't think those are Elmas, but they're similar (Elmas's designs are pretty standard in Turkey). The problem with Nargileplus is you can't buy straight from them...the options they give you are from Gitti Gidiyor, which is a Turkish ebay affiliate that does not give you an option to register from outside Turkey; and Sahibinden, which does let you register outside Turkey, but the checkout procedure is very bizarre, and it doesn't tell you how much shipping is before you place an orer.... [/quote] Well Hassouni, I would say that some of the stems and accesories on [url="http://www.nargileplus.com/"][color="#4e6a97"]http://www.nargileplus.com[/color][/url] might well be made in the same workshop as the Elmas, in other words some might well be Elmas, but some are clearly made by other factories or workshops. In most cases, from what I see, on a given pipe, the stem and bowl might be Elmas, the bottle from a different source (anyway Elmas does'nt seem to make their own exclusive bases, nor do they carry very interesting bases anyway) and the hose, or at list the mouthpiece would be from another make, which seems to be quite popular in Turkey as well (from what I have seen yet in many Turkish sites). Anyway, I find the site [url="http://www.nargileplus.com/"][color="#4e6a97"]http://www.nargileplus.com[/color][/url] interesting. What I love is some of the luxury bases they carry (at 50 TL),. really nice bases indeed, and they seem better than the best ones Elmas offers. (wonder wether they are Turkish made or come from Iran, Syria or another country?). Now, definitely, some of the pipes in this [url="http://www.nargileplus.com/"][color="#4e6a97"]http://www.nargileplus.com[/color][/url] site are ordinary Chinese made. Anyway, as You say, it seeems to me much more practical to deal with Elmas nNargile, or, in my case with their german shop Elmas Originale. By the way, I smoked again [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img] on my tiny [b]Elmas "Civelek"[/b] (number [b]632[/b] I believe) the first I bought, and man... that was great! Even with the original leather hose, it was a GREAT SMOKE (with NAKHLA MIZO Peach flavour, which seems to me a very nice "moassel"). As I said, the smaller Elmas leather hose works very well, and is pretty airtight as oppossed to the two huge ones I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Now, about buying Turkish "molasses" like SERBETLI, ROSSANA or ELMAS, some German webs do carry them. It must be much easier from ythe US or Canada to buy from Germany than from Turkey. Now You have to bear in mind the german legislation limiting Gluycverine content to less than 5%, meaning that some of You might wish to add glycerine to tobaccos bought in Germany, which would have a lower proportyion of it... From what I see on Youtube they produice a lot of smoke anyway and are rather damp. Many seem to have nice, more natural flavours. I still have to try. I will tell You as I receive some Elmas branded molasses (probably Rossana branded Elmas) and some SERBETLI, which I am eager to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 When you ordered from Elmas Originale, were you able to enter credit card info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' date='05 April 2010 - 05:13 PM' timestamp='1270484020' post='461979'] When you ordered from Elmas Originale, were you able to enter credit card info? [/quote] No I was not. That was one of the reasons why I called the girl in charge of the shop and website. She told me they had problems with the web application and wre trying to fix them. So I used the other possibility, that is tranfering money to their bank account. As I said I spoke a number of times (3 or 4) with the girl in charge, Sevgui Eryilmaz, and sent her a few E-mails, to discuss both this payment mode issue and then the choice of colors, bases and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giovanio Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 nice looking rig man ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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