I Want Something New.

[Jacob Shock]

im getting tierd of smoking the same 3 brands over and over. (Nakhla, Tangiers, Ayam Zaman). but every brand ive tried dont come even half as close to these. whenever i buy washed tobacco i smoke a couple bowls and am dont want it anymore.

Im hoping someone can make a new RESPECTABLE brand of shisha. im so fucking sick of every new tobacco being relesed being a starbuzz "Knock-Off". starbuzz sucks, and it knock-offs suck to.

just a rant. Edited January 19, 2010 by Jacob Shock

[Deutsch am Herzen]

[quote name='Jacob Shock' date='18 January 2010 - 07:42 PM' timestamp='1263868932' post='446263']
im getting tierd of smoking the same 3 brands over and over. (Nakhla, Tangiers, Ayam Zaman). but every brand ive tried dont come even half as close to these. whenever i buy washed tobacco i smoke a couple bowls and am dont want it anymore.

Im hoping someone can make a new RESPECTABLE brand of shisha. im so fucking sick of every new tobacco being relesed being a starbuzz "Knock-Off". starbuzz sucks, and it knock-offs suck to.

just a rant.
[/quote]


is starbuzz really THAT bad?? ive only tried 2 of thier flavors; winterfresh(which was free...and boy am i glad it was...bleh) and thier guava...eh. AF is more my thing

[Jacob Shock]

[quote name='Deutsch am Herzen' date='18 January 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1263869249' post='446267']
[quote name='Jacob Shock' date='18 January 2010 - 07:42 PM' timestamp='1263868932' post='446263']
im getting tierd of smoking the same 3 brands over and over. (Nakhla, Tangiers, Ayam Zaman). but every brand ive tried dont come even half as close to these. whenever i buy washed tobacco i smoke a couple bowls and am dont want it anymore.

Im hoping someone can make a new RESPECTABLE brand of shisha. im so fucking sick of every new tobacco being relesed being a starbuzz "Knock-Off". starbuzz sucks, and it knock-offs suck to.

just a rant.
[/quote]


is starbuzz really THAT bad?? ive only tried 2 of thier flavors; winterfresh(which was free...and boy am i glad it was...bleh) and thier guava...eh. AF is more my thing
[/quote]

i like my shisha to contain something called tobacco. when you wash tobacco 4 times its not tobacco anymore, its the shit you throw in the trash when you get done making tea. (not that i make tobacco tea). im trying to say the shit is used up before its even made. i also perfer natural flavors, not synthetic candy.

[Remy]

its an interesting point, but I kindof like my tobacco to taste like synthetic candy. and I like how easy it is to setup (read: little to no acclimation)

While I do love Tangiers, and have experienced it at its greatest, I'm still not sure I can consider starbuzz (or any other washed brands like it) 'shit'. Because for a lazy man like myself, I heartily enjoy the convenience of such 'knock-off' brands

not only that, but theres probably way more people with my opinion than yours. Not all hookah smokers are hookah connoisseurs like most people on this forum.. Most I've met have just been drunk college kids

[rhineholt]

I like Starbuzz.
I like Tangiers.

[Deutsch am Herzen]

[quote name='Remy' date='18 January 2010 - 07:57 PM' timestamp='1263869865' post='446271']
its an interesting point, but I kindof like my tobacco to taste like synthetic candy. and I like how easy it is to setup (read: little to no acclimation)

While I do love Tangiers, and have experienced it at its greatest, I'm still not sure I can consider starbuzz (or any other washed brands like it) 'shit'. Because for a lazy man like myself, I heartily enjoy the convenience of such 'knock-off' brands

not only that, but theres probably way more people with my opinion than yours. Not all hookah smokers are hookah connoisseurs like most people on this forum.. Most I've met have just been drunk college kids
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haha. i do agree with you that most people i know being drunk college kids. but, i guess i fall in that category too; only i know a little bit about what im doing. and like you, i too am a lazy guy. haha.

but then again, i do need to broaden the amount of different brands i smoke. i'll get around to smoking tangiers eventually

[chinamon]

sounds like you need to get yourself some tangiers.

[sine]

[quote name='rhineholt' date='18 January 2010 - 10:08 PM' timestamp='1263870506' post='446276']
I like Starbuzz.
I like Tangiers.
[/quote]

+1

I think Starbuzz has its own niche... I mean, it's the first thing I smoked, and I smoked it for 2 years or so before deciding that it wasn't worth my money, but I still enjoyed it for what it was.

[Pretender85]

I agree with this...it's quite sad there aren't any other brands out there...I mean I don't mind starbuzz or AF...but I do like a good buzz..and there just aren't any other remotely close unwashed shishas out there to compare to nak or tangiers for me only other tobacco I particularly liked was Romman but it is so expensive.......

[indian_villager]

People rave about Fusion.

[Deutsch am Herzen]

[quote name='Pretender85' date='18 January 2010 - 09:41 PM' timestamp='1263876067' post='446294']
I agree with this...it's quite sad there aren't any other brands out there...I mean I don't mind starbuzz or AF...but I do like a good buzz..and there just aren't any other remotely close unwashed shishas out there to compare to nak or tangiers for me [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif[/img] only other tobacco I particularly liked was Romman but it is so expensive.......
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the only unwashed ive tried is Pharohs. but i always thought it was cheap...its like $10 for a 250g. they do make a banana split flavor thats pretty good tho

[Hassouni]

Get yourself some unflavored tobacco, say goodbye to foil, and do what's been done for centuries[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img]. It's not new, but it sure as hell is different!

[Sonthert]

So you want something that is more or less impossible to make?

[Jacob Shock]

[quote name='chinamon' date='18 January 2010 - 08:33 PM' timestamp='1263871984' post='446280']
sounds like you need to get yourself some tangiers.
[/quote]

ive had plenty, i just want something new. having 3 brands to chose from isnt that great of a situation to be in.

[quote name='Pretender85' date='18 January 2010 - 09:41 PM' timestamp='1263876067' post='446294']
I agree with this...it's quite sad there aren't any other brands out there...I mean I don't mind starbuzz or AF...but I do like a good buzz..and there just aren't any other remotely close unwashed shishas out there to compare to nak or tangiers for me only other tobacco I particularly liked was Romman but it is so expensive.......
[/quote]

romman is good but like you said pricey, and the flavors are hit and miss.

[quote name='indian_villager' date='18 January 2010 - 09:47 PM' timestamp='1263876455' post='446296']
People rave about Fusion.
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fussion is good, i perfer unwashed tobacco though. unwashed tobacco has something that washed brands just dont.

[quote name='Deutsch am Herzen' date='18 January 2010 - 09:54 PM' timestamp='1263876866' post='446298']
[quote name='Pretender85' date='18 January 2010 - 09:41 PM' timestamp='1263876067' post='446294']
I agree with this...it's quite sad there aren't any other brands out there...I mean I don't mind starbuzz or AF...but I do like a good buzz..and there just aren't any other remotely close unwashed shishas out there to compare to nak or tangiers for me [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif[/img] only other tobacco I particularly liked was Romman but it is so expensive.......
[/quote]


the only unwashed ive tried is Pharohs. but i always thought it was cheap...its like $10 for a 250g. they do make a banana split flavor thats pretty good tho
[/quote]

i like pharohs

[quote name='Hassouni' date='18 January 2010 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1263877867' post='446302']
Get yourself some unflavored tobacco, say goodbye to foil, and do what's been done for centuries[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img]. It's not new, but it sure as hell is different!
[/quote]

i already have plent of that, im longing for a new shisha not a tombiek. but my longing for this new shisha has driven up my tombiek consumption quite a bit.

[quote name='Sonthert' date='18 January 2010 - 10:35 PM' timestamp='1263879340' post='446312']
So you want something that is more or less impossible to make?


[/quote]


HELL YEA!.................How would this be impossible to make? you make tobacco i like. i just want something that can compete with products like yours. at least compete by my standards. Edited January 19, 2010 by Jacob Shock

[Jacob Shock]

wow i got a negative 2 for my reputation for expressing my opinion on a certian style of shisha.

[Jeff_T]

[quote name='Jacob Shock' date='18 January 2010 - 06:42 PM' timestamp='1263868932' post='446263']
im getting tierd of smoking the same 3 brands over and over. (Nakhla, Tangiers, Ayam Zaman). but every brand ive tried dont come even half as close to these. whenever i buy washed tobacco i smoke a couple bowls and am dont want it anymore.

Im hoping someone can make a new RESPECTABLE brand of shisha. im so fucking sick of every new tobacco being relesed being a starbuzz "Knock-Off". starbuzz sucks, and it knock-offs suck to.

just a rant.
[/quote]

Maybe time to amp up the DIY shisha and make another to add to the elite group... Whenever you finish, send me some samples plz. Also, an unwashed PB&J shisha would be great

[cotsi95]

every brand out there makes at least ONE good flavor. (except jewels ans soex) If you really are gonna count an ENTIRE brand out based on one or two flavors youve had from them. Then your the one missing out on some great shisha.

I like everything for the most part, SB, AF, NAK ,TANG, FUMARI, LAYALINA, ROMMAN, TONIC, FUSION, AL AMIR, FANTASIA, POTION, and yes even HH makes flavor i reasonably like (pumpkin pie is a good mixer). Hate any brand you want, its your hookah but im just saying because 1 flavor sucks from a certain brand dont count the entire brand out.


[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/empathy2.gif[/img]

[Arcane]

what is it that's "getting old" about the brands? because Tangiers and Nakhla smoke and feel differently...i'm guessing Ayam Zaman has a different experience as well...so, with 3 different experiences, i'm kinda wondering what you're looking for...

if it's just flavors....mixing is a great way to "expand" your stash...just start mixing random flavors and see what you get....you might be surprised with what you get...

[Amn_sinclair]

i completely understand where you are coming from jacob, there arent very many unwashed tobaccos. there seems like there is something that washed tobacco is missing. I prefer the the unwashed tobaccos myself. Really though if you are looking for a good buzz and are tired of the same stuff try mixing some zaghoul with one of the washed tobaccos. youll still get a nice buzz and can try these other flavors... thats what i do with the washed tobaccos mix it with zaghoul and enjoy

[twoapplesplease]

No one's recomended desi murli? I hear afzal has a few good and interesting flavors also...

I'm kinda the same way only I smoke nakhla 94% of the time and AF/tangiers the other 6%.....I can't hardly stand anything fruit flavored anymore....And mix Khan el khalili with nearly everybowl

[Chreees]

Ever wonder why those three brands are the ones you mainly smoke? Because to you they're the best. For me I only smoke Nakhla and Tangiers, because it's the only two brands I really like, so why buy anything else? Stick with what you like, and try whatever new that comes out, and see if you like that. Unfortunately the hookah industry is not that demanding for new brands to come out... So I say just be happy with what you get now, like I am.

[Jacob Shock]

[quote name='Jeff_T' date='19 January 2010 - 12:58 AM' timestamp='1263887904' post='446353']
[quote name='Jacob Shock' date='18 January 2010 - 06:42 PM' timestamp='1263868932' post='446263']
im getting tierd of smoking the same 3 brands over and over. (Nakhla, Tangiers, Ayam Zaman). but every brand ive tried dont come even half as close to these. whenever i buy washed tobacco i smoke a couple bowls and am dont want it anymore.

Im hoping someone can make a new RESPECTABLE brand of shisha. im so fucking sick of every new tobacco being relesed being a starbuzz "Knock-Off". starbuzz sucks, and it knock-offs suck to.

just a rant.
[/quote]

Maybe time to amp up the DIY shisha and make another to add to the elite group... Whenever you finish, send me some samples plz. Also, an unwashed PB&J shisha would be great
[/quote]

ive made a few batches of homade shisha. its a fun expierence but i dont think im gonna be responsible for the next super brand.

[quote name='cotsi95' date='19 January 2010 - 01:55 AM' timestamp='1263891348' post='446360']
every brand out there makes at least ONE good flavor. (except jewels ans soex) If you really are gonna count an ENTIRE brand out based on one or two flavors youve had from them. Then your the one missing out on some great shisha.

I like everything for the most part, SB, AF, NAK ,TANG, FUMARI, LAYALINA, ROMMAN, TONIC, FUSION, AL AMIR, FANTASIA, POTION, and yes even HH makes flavor i reasonably like (pumpkin pie is a good mixer). Hate any brand you want, its your hookah but im just saying because 1 flavor sucks from a certain brand dont count the entire brand out.


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[/quote]

i feel you costi. but soex pudina and boombay pan masala were good, although not quite as good as afzals. and there are flavors i like from the majority of the brands you listed (and yess hookah-hookah as well) but almost everything seems to get old fast

[quote name='Arcane' date='19 January 2010 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1263892146' post='446365']
what is it that's "getting old" about the brands? because Tangiers and Nakhla smoke and feel differently...i'm guessing Ayam Zaman has a different experience as well...so, with 3 different experiences, i'm kinda wondering what you're looking for...

if it's just flavors....mixing is a great way to "expand" your stash...just start mixing random flavors and see what you get....you might be surprised with what you get...
[/quote]

my sorrow is not about "lack of flavors", its lack of tobacco"Y" brands.

[quote name='Amn_sinclair' date='19 January 2010 - 02:15 AM' timestamp='1263892548' post='446367']
i completely understand where you are coming from jacob, there arent very many unwashed tobaccos. there seems like there is something that washed tobacco is missing. I prefer the the unwashed tobaccos myself. Really though if you are looking for a good buzz and are tired of the same stuff try mixing some zaghoul with one of the washed tobaccos. youll still get a nice buzz and can try these other flavors... thats what i do with the washed tobaccos mix it with zaghoul and enjoy
[/quote]

al fahker and khan el khalili would probably be a damn great mix.....................

[quote name='twoapplesplease' date='19 January 2010 - 06:42 AM' timestamp='1263908569' post='446389']
No one's recomended desi murli? I hear afzal has a few good and interesting flavors also...

I'm kinda the same way only I smoke nakhla 94% of the time and AF/tangiers the other 6%.....I can't hardly stand anything fruit flavored anymore....And mix Khan el khalili with nearly everybowl


[/quote]

i love desi murli. this is more a shisha thing i feel. im "hot to Trot" for the super tradional tobaccos.

[quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='19 January 2010 - 07:29 AM' timestamp='1263911347' post='446393']
Ever wonder why those three brands are the ones you mainly smoke? Because to you they're the best. For me I only smoke Nakhla and Tangiers, because it's the only two brands I really like, so why buy anything else? Stick with what you like, and try whatever new that comes out, and see if you like that. Unfortunately the hookah industry is not that demanding for new brands to come out... So I say just be happy with what you get now, like I am.
[/quote]


yea, but ive just been waiting for a new tobacco for over a year.

[Sonthert]

I could make...Tangiers for you. It would be like Tangiers.

If I wasn't bringing in 12+ new flavors a year, I could see where you might be bored...

Am I missing something?

[joytron]

Yyeah have you tried every tangiers flavor yet?

[Chreees]

I bet he says he has.