Do You Inhale With Your Chest Or Diaphragm When You Smoke?

[mattarios2]

I thought I remembered someone say that using the diaphragm is the proper way to inhale. But now that i focus on it I do inhale with my chest.

I never really thought about it, but lately ive been getting aches where my chest and shoulder meet, and my cousin who is an ER doctor checked me out and said from too much chest inhaling (insert a ton of crazy doctor terminology that means nothing to me) a specific muscle I think the peck or somewhere near it, can enlarge which causes pinching where the shoulder and chest meet.

Anyone have any solid info on this? Some days i feel it once or twice a day, sometimes it goes weeks without feeling anything.

When I am no longer sick I think I am going to try only inhaling with my diaphragm and see my results.

Your comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

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[Chaz1337]

Interesting question. How does one tell if they are inhaling with their chest or diaphram? Not currently smoking so I'm not sure which I do but I'm thinking chest because I get the same feeling you do every once in a while.

[mattarios2]

Its somewhat hard to explain but, do you know how to pelvic tilt?

It's sort of like doing a pelvic tilt and then breathing in.

Or you know when you go to the bathroom? And sometimes you push ... heh You are using your diaphragm to push. So use that same muslce but to breath in.

With your chest its like when the doctor says take a deep breath and you just breath in.

[Hassouni]

Having played the sax for many years, I can tell you that breathing with the diaphragm is the right way to breathe--I'm not quite sure what you mean by inhaling w. the chest. In any case, you can tell if when you start to breathe in, the area above your stomach is the first to expand, then moving up to your chest, I guess it's the diaphragm flexing and the bottom of your lungs filling up first

[mattarios2]

[quote name='Hassouni' date='21 January 2010 - 01:36 PM' timestamp='1264095403' post='446865']
Having played the sax for many years, I can tell you that breathing with the diaphragm is the right way to breathe--I'm not quite sure what you mean by inhaling w. the chest. In any case, you can tell if when you start to breathe in, the area above your stomach is the first to expand, then moving up to your chest, I guess it's the diaphragm flexing and the bottom of your lungs filling up first
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I guess what I am saying (i think you described it pretty well) when you inhale without your diaphragm you feel your chest fill up (lungs) and your stomach doesn't expand it deflates. When you inhale with your diaphragm your stomach expands and your chest stays more or less the same.

[mattarios2]

Ah here we go,

http://www.stress-and-relaxation.com/diaphragmatic-breathing.html

when you don't breath with your diaphragm it expands your chest bones which is what I think is causing my shoulder aches.

[Skoozle]

I'm pretty sure I have been breathing with my chest, like when the doctor tells me to. I have never had any pain except a little heart ache when the bowl is finished. I'm going to try with my diaphragm to see if I can get more smoke in one breath.

[mattarios2]

Well the website I linked says breathing with your diaphragm puts less stress on your heart ... so definitely try it and report back with your results!

[Hippo_Master]

Wow that's very interesting. I don't inhale, but it's good to know

[TiLLooR]

Im pretty sure after reading that I breathe with my chest, Im gonna try some of the things on there though and see if they make any difference to my session. The thing about less stress on the heart is interesting however.

[Stuie]

I had to simulate smoking to see... Diaphragm.

Years of Choir and Trumpet playing... don't even think about it anymore.

[Arcane]

i dunno....


but, to alleviate your pain or at least to help you adapt...you might want to include some exercise in your lifestyle....

[mattarios2]

I'll see how the diaphragm smoking goes ... first

I usually don't exercise during the winter months, but then I am active, play b ball, home run derby's and swim in the spring/summer ... fall eh i run every now and then.

When I start noticing i'm out of breath big time ... i'll kick into gear full time.

EDIT: At one point I did try exercising and doing stretches and what not, and I found it irritated it. I think I need to learn how to smoke with my diaphragm until the ache goes away, and then exercise as well. That would prob be the best of both worlds.

[JOE]

i smoke it down deep, which ever one that is.

[a cliche affair]

[quote name='JOE' date='21 January 2010 - 02:32 PM' timestamp='1264105958' post='446915']
i smoke it down deep, which ever one that is.
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This. I run multiple miles EVERY DAY and have noticed no difference in my endurance or breathing. So meh.

[mattarios2]

[quote name='JOE' date='21 January 2010 - 04:32 PM' timestamp='1264105958' post='446915']
i smoke it down deep, which ever one that is.
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Well you can inhale down deep with both styles.

[chinamon]

with my chest when i smoke.
with my diaphragm when i breathe.

[seefoodlover]

I PLAY SAX TOO!!! And, I also breath with the diaphragm, it's the only way lol. We have a trumpet player too! We should start a band lol

[mattarios2]

DO IT!!

[maestroelite]

Another wind musician, I smoke the same way I normally breathe. Deep.

[twoapplesplease]

good topic! I smoke 4-5 short deep puffs with the diaphram(fast exhale) to get it rolling then a long slow chest inhale (slow exhale and blow smoke rings)then relax a few minn and stat over..

[mattarios2]

ahhh so you use both methods, hmmm ... interesting.

[Tom1]

Chest. I also get those pains every few weeks right below the shoulder. Its usually the left shoulder towards the front, between my heart and shoulder.

Looks like it's time to start diaphragm inhaling...

[rhineholt]

I play trumpet and Euphonium!!! lets make a band!

[mattarios2]

[quote name='Tom16689' date='22 January 2010 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1264182928' post='447092']
Chest. I also get those pains every few weeks right below the shoulder. Its usually the left shoulder towards the front, between my heart and shoulder.

Looks like it's time to start diaphragm inhaling...
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keep me posted on your results