Tyler Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 For those of you who know, or don't know, HJ has revamped his CH QL line. The new coals are made a bit differently and thus present a new set of pros and cons. I must say the only thing that offsets me from these newer coals is they take a LONG time to light via lighter but light really easily with a small butane torch lighter. The coals last MUCH longer than the previous QLs, they produce little to no smoke or smell, and they no longer turn into little balls of fire. They do kind of spark through like a 3K would but they do not shoot off little sparks. I'vebeen using this coal set for about 25 min now and I can see the red burn in the "shell" (if you use CH coals you know whatim talking about) so that attests to their new endurance! They burn roughly the same heat but overall I definately see these new coals as a 100% improvement, just make sure you have a butane or coil burner with them, which kind of defeats the QL purpose, but thye light in 30 seconds vs. 5-7 min. A+ to HJ and a 10/10 on the product! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 ummm...review section? anyways...i'm assuming, since you mentioned the shell....they are typically the same as the previous CH QLs, except they last longer? i was hoping it'd be similar to a CCN where the ash somehow magically disappears....or like an AF coco, where the ash kinda falls off on their own. i hate getting up to ash coals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a cliche affair Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Arcane' date='22 January 2010 - 04:38 PM' timestamp='1264199910' post='447140'] ummm...review section? anyways...i'm assuming, since you mentioned the shell....they are typically the same as the previous CH QLs, except they last longer? i was hoping it'd be similar to a CCN where the ash somehow magically disappears....or like an AF coco, where the ash kinda falls off on their own. i hate getting up to ash coals.... [/quote] I remember hearing/reading somewhere that these new ql's are just compressed a bit tighter, making them last longer but light a little bit harder. It's a solid tradeoff, I think. Edited January 22, 2010 by a cliche affair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 If they no longer flame and whatnot, can they be lit inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ash tells all. So how do they ash fsu? Does it stick to the coal? What color is the ash? More, less, or the same amount of ash as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I have found that holding a lighter to a corner (one facing down so the flames go up) for 10-20 seconds gets them lit just fine. You just have to avoid getting burned by the random jets of fire. All in all they are much easier to light than the regular CH Nats and they function much the same - I do prefer how they ash vs the original Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saechao_07 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 hmm i miss that cause i like the simba flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Mech, those are the OLD CH QLs, these do not flame. The ash is a grey-white color and yes it still shells but honestly I think it's better than when the ash falls off, but that's just me, it doesn't take more than half a second to take the coal and hit it on the tray to knock of extra ash if you wanted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Sounds like I will be sticking with CCN Thank you for the info fsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote name='FSUReligionMan' date='22 January 2010 - 01:31 PM' timestamp='1264203089' post='447155'] Mech, those are the OLD CH QLs, these do not flame. The ash is a grey-white color and yes it still shells but honestly I think it's better than when the ash falls off, but that's just me, it doesn't take more than half a second to take the coal and hit it on the tray to knock of extra ash if you wanted too. [/quote] its not the time it takes to ash the coals...its the effort that i have to put in when i get off my sofa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 You actually sit that far away from your hookah? Lol, my bowl is never outside an arm's reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 my hookah is usually 3-4 ft away from me (depending on the hose)...with AF cocos or Canarys, i've never had a need to ash my coals so distance from hookah wasn't a consideration.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 what fsu is trying to get across is the changes that were made. if you didn't care for ch ql's in the past you probably still will not prefer them, however, if you are a fan of them as is fsu what he is trying to say is that there are pros and cons, simply, the product is much better when lit, but the con is that lighting is significantly harder. maybe on the next batch after more feedback i can find a happy medium. thanks for discussing, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Exactly what I was saying HJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 include a hot asian brunette, who knows how to cook and doesn't mind cleaning with every purchase and you've got a sale.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I have what I guess I thought were the new ones, just got them yesterday, in the 48 count box since they were free. They don't make fire balls like they used to but I can definitely make them issue a flame - they last only a few seconds. I am in love with them and like the 'shell' of ash that they form it is kind of convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote name='mattarios2' date='22 January 2010 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1264205553' post='447160'] Sounds like I will be sticking with CCN Thank you for the info fsu [/quote] Yes, CCN's are full of win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='23 January 2010 - 02:46 AM' timestamp='1264243608' post='447267'] [quote name='mattarios2' date='22 January 2010 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1264205553' post='447160'] Sounds like I will be sticking with CCN Thank you for the info fsu [/quote] Yes, CCN's are full of win! [/quote] ch ql's shouldn't be compared to ccn's, however, you can compare ch nats to ccn's. since we are somewhat on the topic, ccn's are going to run out temporarily pretty soon, all distributors are out, including ccn themselves. they will get more i am sure but if you are really a fan you may want to get them where you can. i will be out within an few days, hc is out, th will be out shortly if they aren't already. their timing is just bad...well, not really for me, ch nats are available. i like ccn's as well as my own, the last 2 nights i have been using 4 coals, 2 ch and 2 ccn just to compare. obviously i am biased so i will not say 1 is better but i will say that i'm glad to be in the same league as ccn, ccn is definitely a great product. now we need to open a thread on the latest batch of ch nats so you guys can decide if there is a difference...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote name='mattarios2' date='22 January 2010 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1264200378' post='447144'] Ash tells all. So how do they ash fsu? Does it stick to the coal? What color is the ash? More, less, or the same amount of ash as before? [/quote] i've been using the naturals, not the QL's so i can't comment on those, but i imagine they would be similar if not the same. the ash no longer sticks to the coal and it is much more powder-like, more like - if not just like - coco naras. the ash is a gray color maybe a shade or two darker than the ccn ash i've seen. i would say they ash less than before and it is more along the amount of ash produced by ccn. these coals may last longer than ccns. i haven't timed it or anything, but i notice they last A LOT longer than the old coals. these are a great deal at $13 bucks for the nats or $15 for the qls for 120 coals. if i paid for my own coals (which i don't, they go on my family's tab at the grocery store) i would definitely go for these coals! i would HIGHLY recommend these bad boys. my buddies use AF coals because they're more economical but they will be switching to these because they are just as good, if not better than ccn's at a noticeably cheaper price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 After having extensive use out of them I will say they do burn differently. The ash on the coal doesn't shell up as much (unless you let a completely burnt coal sit for a while and cool) but if you wish, you can easily ash the coal just as easy as you could a 3k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz1337 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 [quote name='HookahJohn' date='23 January 2010 - 11:38 AM' timestamp='1264264700' post='447276'] [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='23 January 2010 - 02:46 AM' timestamp='1264243608' post='447267'] [quote name='mattarios2' date='22 January 2010 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1264205553' post='447160'] Sounds like I will be sticking with CCN Thank you for the info fsu [/quote] Yes, CCN's are full of win! [/quote] ch ql's shouldn't be compared to ccn's, however, you can compare ch nats to ccn's. since we are somewhat on the topic, ccn's are going to run out temporarily pretty soon, all distributors are out, including ccn themselves. they will get more i am sure but if you are really a fan you may want to get them where you can. i will be out within an few days, hc is out, th will be out shortly if they aren't already. their timing is just bad...well, not really for me, ch nats are available. i like ccn's as well as my own, the last 2 nights i have been using 4 coals, 2 ch and 2 ccn just to compare. obviously i am biased so i will not say 1 is better [b]but i will say that i'm glad to be in the same league as ccn[/b], ccn is definitely a great product. now we need to open a thread on the latest batch of ch nats so you guys can decide if there is a difference...... [/quote] Not quite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Magnetic Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 hmm, i really want to try these new version QL, but i still have 3 or 4 unopened boxes of the old QL's haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonethere Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Were the new CHQL's shipped out to people last week? I'm asking this because I just received my first CHQL shipment. I've seen the other QL demo on You Tube, and I was expecting my experience to be like that one. I haven't used my QLs yet, so I was just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 if you got QL's from me that shipped out in the last week they are the new ones, and they will not flame up like in the video you saw, however, like stated, it's a better product as far as performance, just lighting them up is a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Never been a fan of QL's since I found naturals. Don't like the smell of the Old formula CH's but I like how they smoke. Got a small box of the new ones coming so I can try those. Might buy more soon if the CCN stock is going to start to dwindle, I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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