Do It Yourself Shisha

[r1v3th3ad]

So, I now have a bag of 56g of Nicotina Rustica aka Sacred Tobacco. I went to the grocery store and picked up some molasses and flavoring. They did not have glycerin.
Will it smoke fine without glycerin/hold flavor well?

I'm going to walmart this weekend to search for glycerin, but if I don't find it...those who are getting a sample will be responsible for their glycerin in their batch.


But ya...how important is glycerin?

[Chaz1337]

Your local pharmacy should have food grade glycerin but I dont think Walgreens/CVS carries it though... Not in Georgia anyways

[Jeff_T]

Maybe try a health food/natural foods store for some vegetable (food grade) glycerin, if you've got one in your area...

[Sonthert]

Glycerine is reasonably important...if you're going for something like modern sheesha. Vegetable or animal makes no difference...as long as its USP...it will be 99.7% pure. That being said, I've never seen animal glycerine.

[r1v3th3ad]

thanks guys, I will continue my hunt

[Schauby7]

I saw glycerin at my cvs yesterday in boston, it came in a small bottle and I wasn't even looking for it. It didn't specify what type it was but it said 99.7% pure as stated aove.

[Skoozle]

[quote name='Sonthert' date='04 February 2010 - 04:50 AM' timestamp='1265277027' post='449650']
Glycerine is reasonably important...if you're going for something like modern sheesha. Vegetable or animal makes no difference...as long as its USP...it will be 99.7% pure. That being said, I've never seen animal glycerine.
[/quote]
Animal glycerine is only available in small quantities from sweet animals like bunnys and kittens. It is therefore very expensive to harvest and is not cost effective enough to market.

[Stuie]

You won't find glycerin at Walmart... I haven't. But I have found it a Michael's, Hobby Lobby and other Hobby Stores. Also a few local grocery stores.

[mattarios2]

yah i don't use mine often so I just buy the little bottles at michaels for 1.99 or something like that.

if you can't find any, don't worry about it.

[king_lunchb0x]

ok so few q's here

1. can you use normal molasses u can buy at a grocery store?
2. do you cook the tobacco at all before adding glycerin and molasses/honey
3. OR can you just throw all of it into a pot and let simmer for 10-30 minutes?
4. anyone know of a good site that may break it down?
5. i wanted to try a hand at making a tobacco, but never found a place that had measurements of any kind
p.s. sorry if i thread jacked

[r1v3th3ad]

this is a method that I came up with in my head after watching my friends' shisha project(loveshisha)...and mine is grocery store molasses as was theirs grocery store honey

I am starting it off by soaking the leaves in the flavoring. As that is going on, I am going to put the molasses in a pot on low heat. I will slowly add flavoring until it tastes about right. After a few hours of the leaves soaking, I am going to add the leaves and juices to the molasses in the pot and keep it on low for a while, constantly stirring.
When I am done, I am considering putting it in the oven on low heat briefly.

I do not know when I am going to add the glycerin in this process, I still have to get my hands on some.

I hope this method is good.
Any recommendations on glycerin adding and whether or not to oven it guys? Also, should I give the tobacco a quick rinse?

[mattarios2]

I vote boo to the rinse, bring on the buzzzzzz!

[Sonthert]

Good luck man. Never tried anything like that...let me know if it works...I might be changing the Tangiers formula!

[r1v3th3ad]

like I said, you are welcome to a batch...you can have a "good friend" test it out for you

[Arcane]

i vote quick rinse...in case there's any bug poop on the leaves...

[Amn_sinclair]

[quote name='Arcane' date='05 February 2010 - 07:42 PM' timestamp='1265395365' post='449920']
i vote quick rinse...in case there's any bug poop on the leaves...
[/quote]

bug popp will just give it that extra bit of kick

[mattarios2]

EXACTLY!

[Arcane]

ew...poop smokers...

[mattarios2]

yummm

[Stuie]

Well I guess I can't knock it till I have tried it, right?

Bug Poop... God Help Me!

[Amn_sinclair]

[quote name='Stuie' date='05 February 2010 - 11:38 PM' timestamp='1265409497' post='449960']
Well I guess I can't knock it till I have tried it, right?

Bug Poop... God Help Me!
[/quote]

bug poop is what later becomes bug powder... where else would they get the flavoring? they grind it up and mix it in your shisha lol jk

[r1v3th3ad]

well, so far no luck on glycerin...I went to Michael's while I was home and they were sold out...checked the local grocery stores and they didn't know what it was.

Anyone want to mail me some glycerin for my project?

[mattarios2]

Well how much do you need? It cost about 2 -2.50 for a tiny little bottle, you can get it much cheaper on the web or if you buy in bulk.

I'd send you some but depends on how much you need.

[r1v3th3ad]

[quote name='mattarios2' date='19 February 2010 - 02:59 PM' timestamp='1266609573' post='452459']
Well how much do you need? It cost about 2 -2.50 for a tiny little bottle, you can get it much cheaper on the web or if you buy in bulk.

I'd send you some but depends on how much you need.
[/quote]

o I have no idea how much, its gonna be trial and error...I've got 56g of tobacco to work with if that gives any ideas...where can I get it on the net?

[mattarios2]

just do a search on google for "vegetable glycerin" and get one that is food grade safe.

there are so many sites that sell the stuff, i just did a quick search and found a 16 ounce bottle for 11 bucks on amazon ... look around if you want to find a deal.

Hope this helps Pat!