Which Phunnel To Get?

[A7mad]

So, after finding this forum I've been obsessed with getting a KM and a Phunnel. I've decided on the KM, OG Blue & Gold Trimetal with a v3 Narbish from HJ. I haven't decided on the phunnel.

It has come down to 2. Tang small phunnel from HJ or a Mini glass phunnel from MNH.

Tang small phunnel is cheaper ($17 plus shipping that I'm already paying for the KM) and more convenient (will be shipped with the KM, don't have to wait for it to be made etc.). However it isn't as pretty and uses more shisha. It also doesn't come with any mods.

Mini glass phunnel is WAY more expensive ($40 plus about $30 shipping). But it is so sexy. It comes with a scalli mod and glass screen. And it is GLASS!

Is there any huge difference in the way either smokes? Taste wise, Heat management, smoke density? From what I've read they both smoke great but when it comes to which one is better the opinions vary with many people choosing one or the other but never explaining why. So my question to you is, which one do you prefer and why?

Now although upfront the Mini costs much more, in the long run it will work out cheaper as tobacco prices are WAY high here and saving 5-10g or more a bowl is a huge plus. I smoke mainly Nakhla DA so I'm assuming I'll be using about 25g for the mini and about 35+ for the small. That is about 10 bowls - 7 per 250 grams and that's heaps imo.

Also, MNH has been a bit iffy lately but they seem to be picking up a little. Is it worth hoping for them to pull through? And is it safe to ship a glass bowl internationally? >_>

So yea. In your opinion what is better, the mnh mini phunnel or the tang small and why? And is MNH safe to deal with atm?

Thanks for your time,

Ahmad

[Arcane]

i wouldn't take the risk with dealing with MNH...and i think the tangiers phunnel outperforms the mnh glass bowls by a mile....

[Jacob Shock]

[quote name='Arcane' date='31 January 2010 - 12:20 AM' timestamp='1264922406' post='448684']
i wouldn't take the risk with dealing with MNH...and i think the tangiers phunnel outperforms the mnh glass bowls by a mile....
[/quote]


only for tangiers itself.


but none the less arcane is right. there is a giant thread about how MNH is a shitty vendor now.

i would say go with the tangiers phunnel, small to be exact.

if you reall want a nice glass phunnel check these bad boys out

http://www.crownhookahs.com/shop/article_31001/Crown-Jewel---Glass-Bowl.html?shop_param=cid%3D2%26aid%3D31001%26

i would get one but its not glass screen fiendly, the glass screen is why il ove the mnh glass phunnel so much.

[Chreees]

[quote name='Arcane' date='31 January 2010 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1264922406' post='448684']
i wouldn't take the risk with dealing with MNH...and i think the tangiers phunnel outperforms the mnh glass bowls by a mile....
[/quote]

Listen to this guy...

MNH hasn't been very responsive to new orders as of late... Most people are waiting a month or so to receive their stuff. I feel it's a crime they leave their site open to new orders... Exactly why I suspect they're doing it on purpose... but anyway...

Go with a small Tang phunnel. You'll love it.

[fillup]

Yea, after I bought my tangiers phunnel I havent used anything but it. And I do have a nice selection of bowls.

[dizzbizz]

When I first bought my small tang phunnel it was the only bowl I used. Ive bought another since then and Im just as happy. I dont trust myself with glass If youre worried about saving shisha you can always recycle the bottom half. Haha.

[nars2k]

Yeah I agree, just get a small funnel and you're set. If you want a cheaper option with the same performance just get a small Chinese funnel. The performance is exactly the same, but the tangiers is more heavy duty.

[antouwan]

small tangiers.

beyond it being superior by everything else by far it's also much easier to get a hold of than those elusive folks over at MNH. chinese? i don't think so. #1 it's a copycat, just like most stuff coming from that country these days, ideologically speaking, i frown on that and won't support it. but also, tangiers phunnels are MUCH stronger and they are much better made. due to the materials made in chinese phunnels they are much easier to break.

basically, small tang phunnel. it's just better in every aspect.

[nars2k]

[quote name='antouwan' date='31 January 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1264928565' post='448705']
small tangiers.

beyond it being superior by everything else by far it's also much easier to get a hold of than those elusive folks over at MNH. chinese? i don't think so. #1 it's a copycat, just like most stuff coming from that country these days, ideologically speaking, i frown on that and won't support it. but also, tangiers phunnels are MUCH stronger and they are much better made. due to the materials made in chinese phunnels they are much easier to break.

basically, small tang phunnel. it's just better in every aspect.
[/quote]


It's not a "copycat", yes they are using the same design as erics funnel but its not like it's advertised as a tangiers. Yes it's made with lower quality materials and isn't as heavy duty or tough as a tangs funnel which I had previously mentioned. But it is another option for the OP due to the cheaper price. I use both daily, the performance is the same there is no difference between the two besides what I mentioned. The guy is asking for an opinion, just because you "frown" on it due to your ideology doesn't mean it's a bad product.

[Arcane]

[quote name='nars2k' date='30 January 2010 - 11:14 PM' timestamp='1264929258' post='448707']
[quote name='antouwan' date='31 January 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1264928565' post='448705']
small tangiers.

beyond it being superior by everything else by far it's also much easier to get a hold of than those elusive folks over at MNH. chinese? i don't think so. #1 it's a copycat, just like most stuff coming from that country these days, ideologically speaking, i frown on that and won't support it. but also, tangiers phunnels are MUCH stronger and they are much better made. due to the materials made in chinese phunnels they are much easier to break.

basically, small tang phunnel. it's just better in every aspect.
[/quote]


It's not a "copycat", yes they are using the same design as erics funnel but its not like it's advertised as a tangiers. Yes it's made with lower quality materials and isn't as heavy duty or tough as a tangs funnel which I had previously mentioned. But it is another option for the OP due to the cheaper price. I use both daily, the performance is the same there is no difference between the two besides what I mentioned. The guy is asking for an [b]opinion[/b], just because you "frown" on it due to your ideology doesn't mean it's a bad product.
[/quote]
doesn't that constitute as his opinion?

[dizzbizz]

[quote name='Arcane' date='31 January 2010 - 03:22 AM' timestamp='1264933340' post='448710']
[quote name='nars2k' date='30 January 2010 - 11:14 PM' timestamp='1264929258' post='448707']
[quote name='antouwan' date='31 January 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1264928565' post='448705']
small tangiers.

beyond it being superior by everything else by far it's also much easier to get a hold of than those elusive folks over at MNH. chinese? i don't think so. #1 it's a copycat, just like most stuff coming from that country these days, ideologically speaking, i frown on that and won't support it. but also, tangiers phunnels are MUCH stronger and they are much better made. due to the materials made in chinese phunnels they are much easier to break.

basically, small tang phunnel. it's just better in every aspect.
[/quote]


It's not a "copycat", yes they are using the same design as erics funnel but its not like it's advertised as a tangiers. Yes it's made with lower quality materials and isn't as heavy duty or tough as a tangs funnel which I had previously mentioned. But it is another option for the OP due to the cheaper price. I use both daily, the performance is the same there is no difference between the two besides what I mentioned. The guy is asking for an [b]opinion[/b], just because you "frown" on it due to your ideology doesn't mean it's a bad product.
[/quote]
doesn't that constitute as his opinion?
[/quote]
Well if he says its a bad product because of the ideology, thats not an opinion, its a false statement. Just because something is made with bad intentions doesn't mean its a bad product.

[Jacob Shock]

[quote name='dizzbizz' date='31 January 2010 - 03:39 AM' timestamp='1264934395' post='448712']
[quote name='Arcane' date='31 January 2010 - 03:22 AM' timestamp='1264933340' post='448710']
[quote name='nars2k' date='30 January 2010 - 11:14 PM' timestamp='1264929258' post='448707']
[quote name='antouwan' date='31 January 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1264928565' post='448705']
small tangiers.

beyond it being superior by everything else by far it's also much easier to get a hold of than those elusive folks over at MNH. chinese? i don't think so. #1 it's a copycat, just like most stuff coming from that country these days, ideologically speaking, i frown on that and won't support it. but also, tangiers phunnels are MUCH stronger and they are much better made. due to the materials made in chinese phunnels they are much easier to break.

basically, small tang phunnel. it's just better in every aspect.
[/quote]


It's not a "copycat", yes they are using the same design as erics funnel but its not like it's advertised as a tangiers. Yes it's made with lower quality materials and isn't as heavy duty or tough as a tangs funnel which I had previously mentioned. But it is another option for the OP due to the cheaper price. I use both daily, the performance is the same there is no difference between the two besides what I mentioned. The guy is asking for an [b]opinion[/b], just because you "frown" on it due to your ideology doesn't mean it's a bad product.
[/quote]
doesn't that constitute as his opinion?
[/quote]
Well if he says its a bad product because of the ideology, thats not an opinion, its a false statement. Just because something is made with bad intentions doesn't mean its a bad product.
[/quote]

the point is tangiers phunnel are superior. yea you will save money now, but spending 6 extra dollars for a superior product you will be ussing alot is well worth it.

[A7mad]

>_>. I wasn't even considering buying a chinese phunnel and don't think I ever would. My question was about a small tang phunnel vs a mini glass phunnel. If you aren't going to discuss either of these then please don't say anything at all.

Anyway, I've sent an email to MNH about their current situation, if they reply in the next few days then I'll get a mini glass from them, if not then I'll get a small tang from HJ.

Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.

[NimbleCow]

I have a MNH mini glass and love it. It's my #1 by far.

However, if you're the type who is sure they want a 30" KM (Big Hookah), a shiny new V3 Narbish (Big Hose), the small phunnel seems like a better match. You'll use more tobacco than a MNH mini, but you'll get a bigger experience to match the rest of your big. Edited January 31, 2010 by NimbleCow

[Amn_sinclair]

[quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='31 January 2010 - 08:31 AM' timestamp='1264923072' post='448688']
[quote name='Arcane' date='31 January 2010 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1264922406' post='448684']
i wouldn't take the risk with dealing with MNH...and i think the tangiers phunnel outperforms the mnh glass bowls by a mile....
[/quote]

Listen to this guy...

MNH hasn't been very responsive to new orders as of late... Most people are waiting a month or so to receive their stuff. I feel it's a crime they leave their site open to new orders... Exactly why I suspect they're doing it on purpose... but anyway...

Go with a small Tang phunnel. You'll love it.
[/quote]

pretty sure they are doing it intentionally. the website is still being updated with new specials and stuff but you cant get in contact witth them i sent them an email 2 weeks ago and i havent heard back from them yet. pretty dissapointing. i mean i know they said they have an excuse but if thats the case y is the site still getting updated

[indian_villager]

Go for authentic tangiers! They smoke great, look amazing, and are a bit more durable than glass.

[Codename067]

Small Phunnel is the best size around!

[delSol_si]

[quote name='nars2k' date='31 January 2010 - 02:54 AM' timestamp='1264928086' post='448702']
Yeah I agree, just get a small funnel and you're set. If you want a cheaper option with the same performance [b]just get a small Chinese funnel. The performance is exactly the same[/b], but the tangiers is more heavy duty.
[/quote]

blasphemy!!


I have both the tangiers phunnel and MNH glass mini (thanks jay), and ive gotta say, if you like shorter session and saving shisha, the glass one is probably the better way to go.

Here are some of the cons of the glass phunnel: 1. its a bitch to clean, 2. because it is glass, the shaft is more slippery, if you take it off the hookah stem for wahtever reason, forget trying to get it back on while its hot, it won't go back on, itll slip right off, 3. the center hole thing is really short and the juices do get past it and into the hookah itself, kinda defeating one of the purposes of a phunnel, 4. it feel extremely fragile

Here are some pros to the glass phunnel: 1. it saves shisha, 2. it looks cool, 3. it smokes good

Cons of Tangiers phunnel: 1. uses a lot of shisha (though you can recycle if you know what you are doing) 2. if you get one with the center hole too high, it will cause air flow problems, 3. if you are smoking anything except tangiers in it, it will take awhile for the bowl to start after putting coals on

Pros of tangiers phunnel: 1. smoke great if you use it correctly 2. shisha lasts a long time in them, 3. they are made with Eric's specifications 3. they prevent shisha juice from getting your hookah's shaft as dirty

here are some general things between the two: the tangiers phunnel seems more durable than the glass phunnel. if you are smoking anything except tangiers, i have noticed that most of the time, the glass phunnel will start smoking faster than the tangiers phunnel....BUT, the tangiers phunnel will last hella longer. Tangiers phunnel holds more shisha (take that as a pro or con)

for me, i normally use my tangiers mini phunnel for most sessions. i do use my glass phunnel on occasion though, normally not just because it is a bitch to clean and im afraid of breaking it. but, it does come in handy when i want a short session and am feeling really impatient and don't want to wait on the tangiers phunnel to heat up.

[Guest Cheng]

Get a small tangiers phunnel mate, you will love it

I only use my small unglazed bowl when I want to smoke a small session, a tangiers small phunnel will smoke for about an hour and a half + by your self.

[hookah hippie]

get yourself a small phunnel

I would steer clear of mnh ATM they have been quite unresponsive especially if you are talking international shippping

[Capt. Morgan]

I'd say a Tangiers phunnel.

[Sonthert]

In an objective manner, the Chinese phunnels I've seen use more charcoal to get the same effect as the Tangiers phunnel. The extra amount of charcoal that would be used will make the Chinese phunnel more expensive in a few weeks of use if you are using some sort of higher charcoal. If you are using bulk charcoal or natural coal, it will takes months...

[Codename067]

[quote name='Sonthert' date='31 January 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1264972620' post='448759']
In an objective manner, the Chinese phunnels I've seen use more charcoal to get the same effect as the Tangiers phunnel. The extra amount of charcoal that would be used will make the Chinese phunnel more expensive in a few weeks of use if you are using some sort of higher charcoal. If you are using bulk charcoal or natural coal, it will takes months...
[/quote]

Tangiers > Chinese anyday, but a friend of mine owns a Chinese one, and it requires no more coals than the one I use when we smoke them out.

Yours looks nicer and is higher in quality, thats all, but performance wise, they could easily be put up on the same level in my book.

[chromecarz00]

[quote name='Codename067' date='31 January 2010 - 02:34 PM' timestamp='1264977278' post='448767']
[quote name='Sonthert' date='31 January 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1264972620' post='448759']
In an objective manner, the Chinese phunnels I've seen use more charcoal to get the same effect as the Tangiers phunnel. The extra amount of charcoal that would be used will make the Chinese phunnel more expensive in a few weeks of use if you are using some sort of higher charcoal. If you are using bulk charcoal or natural coal, it will takes months...
[/quote]

Tangiers > Chinese anyday, but a friend of mine owns a Chinese one, and it requires no more coals than the one I use when we smoke them out.

Yours looks nicer and is higher in quality, thats all, but performance wise, they could easily be put up on the same level in my book.
[/quote]

I've actually seen the Havana one use more coal than my tangiers one, side by side, same tobacco, me packing them both. Dont know if its the same as the chinese.

[inino]

I rarely use my glass. I wouldnt say that I regret buying it, but it hardly gets any use and is a bitch to clean sometimes. the tangiers is great, I would say get that.