mavsfan31 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 By my RA's. Along with all my alcohol (a fair amount of liquor). I might be saying goodbye to my brand new KM forever. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Guillotine_anim.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Are you serious.... Thats rough, i had mine taken once but they typically just hold it and give it back end of term.... or you can talk it out with them and as long as they never see it again you can get it back typically alcohol was probibly dumped or drinken sorry bud, hide it better next time. (My km is currently in the bathroom hidden away in my suite) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 i dont think they can take your hookah and not give it pack unless its been used with NHT and they test it to prove so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 If it's banned in the dorms they can. You can fight it but it won't be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 was it packed? or worse then that lit? cause its gone if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutsch am Herzen Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 yea, theres alot of variables. my buddies school tried to take his but it was just sittin there in his room. not packed or anything. he doesnt even smoke it inside, so they gave it back. funny story about it though, he got paired up with a random person as a room mate and the room mate called the cops over it...yea, lets just say my buddy got a new roommate...fast. haha. as long as you werent like mid puff then they cant do shit...unless of course you did use it for nht...but that would be crazy...and a waste of a km. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Oh, that sucks man. Are you friends with some of the higherups? Maybe you can get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I'd be trying my hardest to get that KM back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsfan31 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 No, I'm not friends with anyone. Sure wish I was right now though. I'm getting an alcohol strike (no I wasn't intoxicated or anything), can't really fight that. I mean, I had alcohol in my room which is in direct violation of Housing Code. I had 12 bottles, mostly all empty so that only further worsened my cause. I have to tell my parents, which they'll surely be bummed out about. For the hookah, I got in possesion of an open flame device (or something along those lines). They took the hookah, since in the Housing Code it says I can't have it in my possession. They started talking about it being drug paraphernalia, so I gave them the shisha so it could be proved otherwise. They took the entire hookah (he picked it up by the stem, I about shat myself) and told me I may or may not get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 [quote name='Stuie' date='22 February 2010 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1266899584' post='453020'] If it's banned in the dorms they can. You can fight it but it won't be pretty. [/quote] thats like saying they can take your pack of cigs IMO I'd fight it, its only an open flame device when in use, therefor you are not violating the school policy...threaten to hire the ACLU(American Civil Liberties Union) and that you'll sue for racial discrimination(hookah can be linked with racism even if you are a white guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yeah thats pretty bullshit so long it wasnt lit. Itd be like getting written up for a candle that was in your room and had never been lite....id fight like a mofo for that back....even if you just have to take it home or cant get it until the end of the semester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsfan31 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 The problem is that I was smoking it. I might try to appeal it, not too sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 ooo...you're kinda screwed then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKammenzind Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 [quote name='mavsfan31' date='23 February 2010 - 01:08 AM' timestamp='1266905321' post='453042'] The problem is that I was smoking it. I might try to appeal it, not too sure yet. [/quote] I'm pretty sure you're just screwed then. Why would you take the risk of smoking in your room when it's against the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I'd be more worried about the fines associated with this than the loss of the hookah. The hookah is probably $100-$150...I'd imagine your fine is going to be much higher than that. my dorms have no problem with hookah as long as im not smoking it in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashes87 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Sucks to hear about all of that, but first rule of anything - Nothing is illegal till you get caught, and you got caught. I really dont know what you can, except just wait it out and pray you get your KM back at the end of the semester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 generally the fines arent too bad, its usually from what ive seen at my school as well as others, 1st offence (used by alcohol strike)= slap on wrist + call home, 2nd offence (50 fine), 3rd (100 dollar fine and housing director review) 4th kicked from campus dorms. Generally there is little to no chance you get caught for smoking in your dorm, i as well as many i know from different schools do it all the time. Future precautions include but are not limited to: 1) nearly the most obvious, bag your smoke detector with a cvs or other plastic bag! 2) crack a window, yes we like our rooms still from drafts for massive smoke clouds and 0's but remember were trying not to get caught here... 3) if possible place a fan facing outwards in the window (optional) 4) Place a thick tshirt at the base of your door as to cover the crack from exposing the sweet odor du' shisha 5) For god sakes light your silly smoky coals right next to the window, you dont need the room smelling like a fireplace, nor the entire hallway 6) Dont rant about it around town that your doing it, work spreads fast, only enjoy it with friends. 7) For future reference in regards to alcohol, i find that in freshman dorms (assuming your a freshman to make a mistake like this) its best to place all emptys in a black garbage bag immediately, and any non empty's either in a boot, pair of socks, suitcase, in the ceiling, etc (or for beer in the fridge as there is a legality that they cannot open fridges to confiscate without permission) as to not be found... Anyways fight it all you can, wish you had said you didnt get caught mid smoke, but thats life. Id talk to the building director and swear not to do it again, if necessary even offer to sign a contract. You can always smoke outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I'd say from now on, smoke outdoors, they won't like it but there isn't shit they can do about it. I've been approached by cops on multiple occasions asking to sniff the bowl, they sniffed it, asked for a puff and went about their merry way. You should look it up but there is an amendment to the paraphernalia law stating that hookahs are not included within the law. Use it to fight it, promise to smoke outside, and then use ACLU as last resort. As far as the alcohol offense, take the slap, and forget about it. I've had my fair share of em, I had a friend sign my hours for 'community service' at his job b/c he thought it was BS too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 its not that its paraphanalia, you broke fire code BAD, at me and Blackfish's school you get caught smoking in a dorm you get arrested, pay a 500-2000$ fine and theres a good chance you get kicked out of school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 lol is that really the rules at our school... hmm i may have to smoke to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 If you got into trouble for having an "open flame device" I suppose lighters and matches are not allowed either? What nonsense good luck. When I lived in the dorms I made friends with the RA like the first day. Used to take down my smoke detector and smoke all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsfan31 Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Yeah, I'm worried as to what AFROTC will have to say about this more than anything. They have more cadets than spots, and stuff like this certainly doesn't help my cause. I probably just won't smoke inside, though I hate smoking outside because I feel like a tool. I'll just do it some place off the beaten path, of course. When they took my hookah, they told me they weren't sure if I would be able to get it back. The open flame citation is just $15, no big deal there. It's more the alcohol that I have to worry about. Oh well, I'm the idiot. I only have myself to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasHookah Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Sorry to hear about the hookah. College days...they were great. Never had an inspection by our RAs so we got pretty lucky with our hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whats a KM? Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 As far as the fines go your pretty much SOL, however you can make a case to get the hookah back without a problem. I was stuck in a similar debacle . offer to take the case to your campus police to have them investigate if NHT was involved (assuming it wasnt), provide some paperwork about intended uses for the pipe, perhaps where you got it from and what you do with it. With anything in life, information is power. hope it all works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ22 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 [quote name='Deutsch am Herzen' date='22 February 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1266900263' post='453023'] yea, theres alot of variables. my buddies school tried to take his but it was just sittin there in his room. not packed or anything. he doesnt even smoke it inside, so they gave it back. funny story about it though, he got paired up with a random person as a room mate and the room mate called the cops over it...yea, lets just say my buddy got a new roommate...fast. haha. [b]as long as you werent like mid puff then they cant do shit.[/b]..unless of course you did use it for nht...but that would be crazy...and a waste of a km. lol [/quote] If the school has a policy against them, then it doesnt matter if he was smoking it or not. I would imagine they reserve the right to play for keeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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