persianprez Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I just bought a 96 pack from amazon, and tried em out just a little over half an hour ago. I must say I'm not pleased, but I know I must be doing something wrong. I have always used regular kings, but decided to try another market. I put them on the stove (2), waited about 4-5 mins, and it lit fine. It took a few puffs to start up, not a problem, but it had a real ashy taste I didn't enjoy. I'm guessing its the left over silver coating on the coals. Should I completely shave it off next time and make it so its completely lit red before putting it on. Any tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Completely remove the silver. Then try Canary Goldens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianprez Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 [quote name='mushrat' date='11 March 2010 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1268293029' post='456505'] Completely remove the silver. Then try Canary Goldens [/quote] haha possibly when I'm done with this pack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItSimple Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Easy Lite Jap Coals aren't that bad, try those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I used to use em all the time, we'd just put em on the stove for 1min per side and throw em on the hookah. Some of the silver would still be on and some had flaked off, i personally never noticed much a flavor difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Still trying to get my Japs to light well. Got a hot plate as suggested by someone, and I am not having any better luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 um, you put them on, turn it to high, wait till the paint flakes off on its own. whats the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 [quote name='mushrat' date='11 March 2010 - 10:51 AM' timestamp='1268326286' post='456546'] um, you put them on, turn it to high, wait till the paint flakes off on its own. whats the problem? [/quote] The Golden Canaries and Exotic Japs and every other jap I try, starts splitting in half before the half the paint flakes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Think I am going to get my alcohol stove like Scalli made back up and running. Just got to put in the check valve and I'm golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 so..use the halves...they still work you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 [quote name='mushrat' date='11 March 2010 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1268327561' post='456552'] so..use the halves...they still work you know. [/quote] I do but the OCD in me want's to figure out how to not crack them and light them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 last time i used jap coals i cooked them in my toaster oven and it worked fine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbles Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Stuie, mine crack all the time. Sometimes in half, sometimes just chips. When i blast my hotplate on high and cook up my golden canaries they usually chip or crack. BUT, when i heat up my GC on top of pre-lit GC then they are perfect without cracking. That lead me to a breakthru. If you cook your jap coals on medium-hot; If 1 to 10 and 10 being HI, set it to 7. Ive noticed it takes a little bit longer to light, but they dont break or chip. Give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 [quote name='Webbles' date='11 March 2010 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1268328787' post='456559'] Stuie, mine crack all the time. Sometimes in half, sometimes just chips. When i blast my hotplate on high and cook up my golden canaries they usually chip or crack. BUT, when i heat up my GC on top of pre-lit GC then they are perfect without cracking. That lead me to a breakthru. If you cook your jap coals on medium-hot; If 1 to 10 and 10 being HI, set it to 7. Ive noticed it takes a little bit longer to light, but they dont break or chip. Give that a try. [/quote] Do you flip them or just leave them alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbles Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Nope i dont flip them. I put them on my hotplate at medium hot and keep them on there till they just about are glowing red. I twirl my coal basket or a blow on the coal and most of the silver flint comes off. Mind ya tho, this is based on Golden Canaries. If i was trying the Exoticas or even the Easy lights i would wait till they GLOW red and ALL the flint comes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 ive never had mine crack while lighting but they have randomly cracked while smoking and made the whole bowl taste like nastiness mixed with burnt marshmallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Has everyone heard of a Canary shortage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Well only 2 vendors I can think of carry them, but I haven't heard of a shortage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianprez Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Here is the exact box I received so theres no confusion.. [img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31jNbcwlX1L._SL500_AA300_.jpg[/img] I think I'm just going to stick with kings for now on, 13bedar is coming up, and theres no place to "cook" these outside, I need some actual easy lites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 jap coals i had were in a differnent box but same basic principal. Also CH QL are very nice imo, i split all mine in half with a screwdriver and shoe (thanks ryno!). they take a little more time and heat to light than 3k, but can still be accomplished with a lighter. 8.50 for a box of 48 of em from HJ or like 15 bucks for a kilo of em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 I had a box of those Exotica japs a while back and wasn't impressed with them. I felt they didn't last long enough, but maybe it's because I'm used to CH/cocos... I've never had a prob with mine cracking though. I would throw them on the coil burner for about 3-4min a side and they'd be glowing red with no silver coating left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Smoker Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 pretty sure the cracking has something to do with moisture in them...when i first opened a box they were fine and they would crack after i was over 50% done the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 its not you, OP...it's those coals.... they're not that great and i think they do impart a tiny bit of flavor....just try to get through them and switch to GCs or coconuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItSimple Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Id like to scratch what I said about the Easy Lite Japs not being that bad....they are that bad haha. I used to use them all the time and for three weeks have been using only CH Nats. I threw one on a bowl today and could really taste it. I never knew that the taste was even there till I started using better coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 I don't think I've never experienced a Japanese coal crack on me while I was lighting it. I just treat them like any other coal - throw it on the burner and flip after a few minutes. The only difference is I blow off all the silver crap once it's fully lit. That paint or whatever it is will make you sick if you keep it intact when you smoke. I've never been a fan of Japanese coals. They make too much of a mess, don't last that long, and don't seem to burn hot enough for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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