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Right guys, I've finally got enough money, but I can't decide which KM to get!
It's between these three, if you could help me out with past experiences, or just generally choose, that'd be much appreciated!

1. http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/world-cup-by-khalil-mamoon-green-32-inch-p-1504.html

2. http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/al-juhara-the-jewel-by-khalil-mamoon-green-28-inch-p-1567.html

3. The single decker version of this (with one carousel rather than two) http://www.hookahjohn.com/KM-1001-Nights-Double-Decker-2085.htm

4. Probably the non chiller version http://www.hookahjohn.com/KM-World-Cup-Trophy-Chiller-Green-2083.htm

5. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shisha-Khalil-Mamoon-hookah-pipe-FREE-GIFT_W0QQitemZ180480331512QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE?NHT (Non-Hookah Tobacco)=item2a05774ef8#ht_500wt_1182

Thanks!
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amer (#5)

edit: actually, i took a second look at the "Amer"...and it looks very different than the one i have. i dunno if it's a fake or an older model or what....can anyone chime in? Edited by Arcane
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[quote name='Arcane' date='12 March 2010 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1268437200' post='456822']
amer (#5)

edit: actually, i took a second look at the "Amer"...and it looks very different than the one i have. i dunno if it's a fake or an older model or what....can anyone chime in?
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nope looks just like my Amer from what i can tell in the pic...how old is ur Amer jay? maybe they changed up the design a bit


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[quote name='Arcane' date='12 March 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1268437200' post='456822']
amer (#5)

edit: actually, i took a second look at the "Amer"...and it looks very different than the one i have. i dunno if it's a fake or an older model or what....can anyone chime in?
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I've actually ran across three different types of Amers and also Hafas/Butterflies (the Hafa is a different stem than the Butterfly but they are similar enough that they are mixed up by vendors). HC has the original style with the brass ring shank and OG engraved hose port, like the one in the ebay link.
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[quote name='foibled again' date='12 March 2010 - 09:19 PM' timestamp='1268464742' post='456876']
[quote name='Arcane' date='12 March 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1268437200' post='456822']
amer (#5)

edit: actually, i took a second look at the "Amer"...and it looks very different than the one i have. i dunno if it's a fake or an older model or what....can anyone chime in?
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I've actually ran across three different types of Amers and also Hafas/Butterflies (the Hafa is a different stem than the Butterfly but they are similar enough that they are mixed up by vendors). HC has the original style with the brass ring shank and OG engraved hose port, like the one in the ebay link.
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i'm pretty sure mine is different....my hose port has the bubble on the end, like most of my other KMs. does that mean i have the new model? i bought mine from HJ.

Walt, you know if there's a difference between the two, build-wise?

either way, i still suggest the Amer....it's a good pipe.
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[quote name='MrIsrael' date='12 March 2010 - 08:51 PM' timestamp='1268419860' post='456793']
Right guys, I've finally got enough money, but I can't decide which KM to get!
It's between these three, if you could help me out with past experiences, or just generally choose, that'd be much appreciated!

1. [url="http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/world-cup-by-khalil-mamoon-green-32-inch-p-1504.html"]http://www.hookahsho...nch-p-1504.html[/url]

2. [url="http://www.hookahshop.co.uk/al-juhara-the-jewel-by-khalil-mamoon-green-28-inch-p-1567.html"]http://www.hookahsho...nch-p-1567.html[/url]

3. The single decker version of this (with one carousel rather than two) [url="http://www.hookahjohn.com/KM-1001-Nights-Double-Decker-2085.htm"]http://www.hookahjoh...Decker-2085.htm[/url]

4. Probably the non chiller version [url="http://www.hookahjohn.com/KM-World-Cup-Trophy-Chiller-Green-2083.htm"]http://www.hookahjoh...-Green-2083.htm[/url]

5. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shisha-Khalil-Mamoon-hookah-pipe-FREE-GIFT_W0QQitemZ180480331512QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE?NHT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.u..._Smoking_LE?NHT[/url] (Non-Hookah Tobacco)=item2a05774ef8#ht_500wt_1182

Thanks!
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EDIT: Number 3 is the Khalil Mamoon Zeus Edited by delSol_si
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Make sure not to mention banned vendors on here... I'm sure even the initials of the vendor you're talking about will be edited out of your last post there. This is the reason you could not link it.

Different vendors call KMs different names. A certain model KM may be called one thing by one vendor, but another name by a different vendor. The name is simply for classification purposes. Gotta call it something, right? Anyway, make sure not to get too caught up in what it's name is... Many of the KMs have the same name by different vendors, but some do not. Really there's no official names for any of them...
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It says on the banned vendor list '[color=#5D5D5D][font=tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=2]unless you have a problem you need help with'. [/size][/font][/color][font=tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=2]Does my link not count as help?[/size][/font]
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[quote name='MrIsrael' date='13 March 2010 - 05:03 AM' timestamp='1268478185' post='456898']
It says on the banned vendor list '[color="#5d5d5d"][font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="2"]unless you have a problem you need help with'. [/size][/font][/color][font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="2"]Does my link not count as help?[/size][/font]
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No. Cannot link to banned vendors under any circumstances, as far as I know.
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[quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='13 March 2010 - 01:52 PM' timestamp='1268481148' post='456899']
[quote name='MrIsrael' date='13 March 2010 - 05:03 AM' timestamp='1268478185' post='456898']
It says on the banned vendor list '[color="#5d5d5d"][font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="2"]unless you have a problem you need help with'. [/size][/font][/color][font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="2"]Does my link not count as help?[/size][/font]
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No. Cannot link to banned vendors under any circumstances, as far as I know.
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Ah, I then I misunderstood. Sorry people!
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[quote name='Arcane' date='13 March 2010 - 02:05 AM' timestamp='1268474737' post='456893']
i'm pretty sure mine is different....my hose port has the bubble on the end, like most of my other KMs. does that mean i have the new model? i bought mine from HJ.

Walt, you know if there's a difference between the two, build-wise?

either way, i still suggest the Amer....it's a good pipe.
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Yeah, you got one of the newer ones. They're built using the same methods but the OG is slightly different in design. The brass ring, sunken internal ports, and engraved hose port would be the biggest differences, which are what make that stem and the OG butterfly & hafa unique IMO. If you don't care for that, it doesn't really matter.


[quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='13 March 2010 - 02:31 AM' timestamp='1268476315' post='456895']Really there's no official names for any of them...
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This is not true.
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[quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='13 March 2010 - 02:31 AM' timestamp='1268476315' post='456895']Really there's no official names for any of them...
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[b]This is not true.[/b]
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Mkay... care to elaborate? I was under the impression KM didn't give them official names, so therefore vendors have to call them something. Hence why John in his vids is like, "Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna call these new KMs, maybe the 2010's." Even though most of them are called the same thing by most vendors, it's been my experience there's no official name for any of them. Catch my drift?
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