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Mushrat:  I was clarifying information already posted on the
topic.  You'll observe that my post contains no link and refers
only to information already provided.

Did you actually have information to contribute that pertained to the
QUESTION or were you merely finding any excuse to be critical?

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I was actually quite appreciative that others were promoting my site for me.  Thanks a lot Kerbe, it means a lot to me.
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seriously elite youre welcome here but you always plug your products
more than anything else. you didnt add anything to the discussion. he
asked where to find leather hose and you said you sell mya hoses. but
he had already made it clear thats not what he was looking for. we
appreciate you being involved in the forum and like hearing of your
specials when they occur, but please do not push your company every
time you post. i dont want to argue this with you since you seem to get
offended easily. but in the future please pay attention to this.

if you have a deal by all means let us know in a new post, but dont
pretend to answer questions if all you are doing is advertising.

and the link is in your signature and its bad form to criticize forum members for asking you not to break a forum rule.
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Actually Elite..I did. Right above your advertisement. I see how well you were actually following the thread.... 
I'd say SS covered the rest.
Since Kerbe had already pointed out your product, your repeating the information was merely added self promotion and nothing else. If people are doing it for you, you don't have to do it anymore...
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I think Both SS and you Mush are just being hyper critical about
anything elite post. Fact is that elite's website was posted following
a remark that can be said with saying that elites hoses arent as good
as mya's, so elite came in to make it clear his product is Mya. I dont
see why you have to jump down his throat. Its not like someone died
because he posted.
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You are correct scarecrow, atleast for me. But when someone says they aren't doing something, I'm going to make it a point to show that they are. You don't see any of the big company owners doing what he's doing. And the smaller ones that did, don't post here any more.
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Thank you Scarecrow.

But to appease the powers that be (as he says, they make sure that
small company owners feel completely uncomfortable here even if they
have the best intentions) I have created a new username for my personal
posts.  The complexity of a company taking an active social role
and having healthy discourse and interaction with a potential customer
base must be too great.

Mushrat, I hope you view this as the honorable thing to do. 
Please, extend me a little leadway in the future.  I'm not trying
to destroy your forum.
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*sigh*
First, let me say I *AM* actually impressed that you switched to a non-company based profile. It is appriciated and I'm willing to bet you will see some benifit from it.
Next, let me say, and then I will drop the issue, so feel free to have the last word if you wish, That smaller companies/indivduals selling hookahs are in no way discouraged or singled out. The problem is that people starting companies begin to use the forums as free advertising, using every, or almost every, chance to promote their sites over the dozen or so other sites big and small. The reason you don't see many other smaller site owners posting with company profiles is that they were treated the same way you were. Some of them have gone completely away, some have changed names like you did. We have also busted on some of the big companies for having employees post to the forum making it sound like they were just every day joes, when they were really pushing a company line or agenda. Thats just an example, there is another big one best left undetailed, but rest assured, there have been others.
At no time have I attacked the quality of your company or its products and service. In fact, you have been one of the few smaller vendors that people have actually ordered from and been happy every time so far.
I've already noted that people were happy with Elitehookah.com in the same posts where I admonished you for for over promotion. Relax, you've done what you set out to do, establish your company in the hookah community, gotten good reviews by people who have ordered from you, the rest will come. Feel free to do what the other companies do, announce special sales, new products, improvements to your site, that sort of thing under the Elitehookah.com name. But the best thing you can do now is continue to provide the great service and prices and the customers will do the rest.
So, Welcome to the forum Enima. I'm Mushrat and I'm a real pain in the arse....
 
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yeah i dont mean to pick on you and your prices on havana will have me ordering from your company as soon as you get some more flavors in. I do appreciate the two names. elitehookah for company news and enima for personal use. kudos. i was probably a bit too harsh because of some of the other companies that have done that before. youre cool with me.
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What's an "enima"? Oh, we're NOT supposed to pick on Elite err...Enima...enema?Kidding, kidding!Eventually, you will get a nick from having such a long name, um...you think "enema" is going to be, um, OK?
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Well I don’t know if this is going to be a help but I do sell genuine leather hoses on my site and they are well in my opinion and I am a picky smoker. And as for the tundra or what ever they call it at hookah company we have the same thing but we call them by their real name Khalil Maamon 30” hoses and we sell them for around $12.  And just to clarify I am not trying to promote for my site I am just trying to show you the better product. They look exactly like the Gucci hoses I make but instead of Gucci its comes in different solid colors blue, black, red, green. So if u want take a look but as for mya I don’t know what all the hype is about yah it’s a cool product but honestly for any one who knows anything about hookahs any hookah that you can fit in a case well should stay in a case they look real nice and hit real well but I have personally owned 12 in the past 5 months from bohemian glasses to acrylic to crystal. They only good thing about them is the glass that’s about it. I have seen first hand and tried first hand and I am sick and tired off all these sites that over charge on their products its ridiculous. I didn’t get in this business to make money. I got in it to spread the hookah movement and it shouldn’t cost an arm and a leg to get a good hookah experience.
 
[url="http://www.pimpyourhookah.com"]http://www.pimpyourhookah.com[/url]
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well that is true i didnt eveery thing i sell is not more than 35% above cost. so for you to laugh and critisize it, is rediculous because you have no idea what a hooka should cost thanks for the reply btw so pay high prices on a hookah that they bought for $14 and sold to you for $90. enjoy paying more for the same thing, because its not the money im after its the search for new products
and i think you need a enema because you are full of it!
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[quote name='Hookah Pimp']well that is true i didnt eveery thing i sell is not more than 35% above cost. so for you to laugh and critisize it, is rediculous because you have no idea what a hooka should cost thanks for the reply btw so pay high prices on a hookah that they bought for $14 and sold to you for $90. enjoy paying more for the same thing, because its not the money im after its the search for new products  
and i think you need a enema because you are full of it![/quote]
quite a professional reply, knocking a potential customer (who, btw, runs a hookah supply website, as you do), with excellent spelling!  bravo.
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Um, while i agree the comment was a tad uncalled for, the reply is pretty incomprehensible.  The attack on Mya was a also uncalled for, and in my opinion inaccurate. The fuss is because they are a good compnay that has well made products. You offered no real evidence to back up your attack. Posting as the owner of Pimp Your Hookah, you better be DAMN sure you can back up any attack on a competator. I also find it interesting that you talk about them NOT being special, and then you point out 3 things about them that make them nice.
What 12 hookahs have you owned that make you an expert?
Also, I don't know what your wholesale is, but from some of the prices I've been assembling for my project, your prices are a bit over 35%. Or you're paying too much for your stuff....
And after knocking the Mya, why do you sell them?
[url="http://www.pimpyourhookah.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PYH&Product_Code=BH159&Category_Code=H"] http://www.pimpyourhookah.com/Merchant2/me...ant.mvc?Screen=[/url] PROD&Store_Code=PYH&Product_Code=BH159&Category_ Code=H
Note the MYA on the carrying case.
Oh, I couldn't find the hoses you were talking about on your site either Pimp.
 
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I guess I don't understand why he ruins beautiful Khalil Mamoun hoses by covering them with cheesy fabric.
But if he does in fact sell Khalil hoses for $12 that are unaltered and come with the original mouthpiece, I'll hapily admit how good a deal that is and most likely buy a couple. 
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