Hookah On Msnbc

[Canon]

[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37068386/ns/health-addictions/"]http://www.msnbc.msn...lth-addictions/[/url]

Here are some key points I noticed and disagree with on this survey.


[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"]O'Loughlin and her colleagues used questionnaires to survey 871 young adults, aged 18 to 24, who anonymously reported on their substance abuse habits. Of these, 201 had used a hookah in the previous year.[/size][/font][/quote]

871 people is not that much for a survey. It may be enough for a college essay but for a major news network to use it is surprising. I would like to see a larger survey done across the nation to get a more accurate result.

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][font="Verdana, arial, sans-serif"][quote][/font][size="2"]According to a 2009 study in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine[img]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif[/img], average hookah use exposes the smoker to more smoke and carbon monoxide, and similar [url="http://www.livescience.com/health/090423-nicotine-anger.html"]amounts of nicotine[/url], as cigarettes. The two practices likely share some similar health risks, the study concluded.[/quote][/size][/font]
That is the only downside to smoking hookah, you get more carbon monoxide while smoking, but you do not get all the chemicals that are found in cigarettes.

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"]In particular, hookahs have been linked to lung [url="http://www.livescience.com/health/070726_cancer_myths.html"]cancer[/url], heart disease and pregnancy complications[img]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif[/img]. So why do people think they are safe?[/size][/font][/quote]

anyone know where to find this study?

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Myth #3:[/b][/b] The water in the base of the pipe filters out toxins.[/size][/font][color="#666666"][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"] [/font][/color]

[/size][/font][/color]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Reality:[/b][/b] [i]If [/i]the water filters out [i]anything[/i], it is not enough to lower the[url="http://www.livescience.com/health/090423-bad-habits.html"]health risks [/url].[/size][/font][/quote]

Theres a video on youtube where a guy uses a vacuum cleaner to smoke a pack of cigs and the amount of tar found in the water is outrageous. I believe the water does a good job in filtering out tar.

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Myth #4:[/b][/b] The fruit added to flavored tobacco imparts a health benefit.[/size][/font][color="#666666"][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"] [/font][/color]

[/size][/font][/color]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Reality:[/b][/b] Fruit flavoring is just that, flavoring, and does not contribute to one's daily fruit and veggie quota.[/size][/font][/quote]

who here actually thinks that?

[bellydancerakn]

[quote name='Canon' date='10 May 2010 - 09:31 PM' timestamp='1273552287' post='467521']
[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37068386/ns/health-addictions/"]http://www.msnbc.msn...lth-addictions/[/url]

Here are some key points I noticed and disagree with on this survey.


[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"]O'Loughlin and her colleagues used questionnaires to survey 871 young adults, aged 18 to 24, who anonymously reported on their substance abuse habits. Of these, 201 had used a hookah in the previous year.[/size][/font][/quote]

871 people is not that much for a survey. It may be enough for a college essay but for a major news network to use it is surprising. I would like to see a larger survey done across the nation to get a more accurate result.

[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][font="Verdana, arial, sans-serif"][quote][/font][size="2"]According to a 2009 study in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine[img]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif[/img], average hookah use exposes the smoker to more smoke and carbon monoxide, and similar [url="http://www.livescience.com/health/090423-nicotine-anger.html"]amounts of nicotine[/url], as cigarettes. The two practices likely share some similar health risks, the study concluded.[/quote][/size][/font]
That is the only downside to smoking hookah, you get more carbon monoxide while smoking, but you do not get all the chemicals that are found in cigarettes.

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"]In particular, hookahs have been linked to lung [url="http://www.livescience.com/health/070726_cancer_myths.html"]cancer[/url], heart disease and pregnancy complications[img]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif[/img]. So why do people think they are safe?[/size][/font][/quote]

anyone know where to find this study?

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Myth #3:[/b][/b] The water in the base of the pipe filters out toxins.[/size][/font][color="#666666"][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"] [/font][/color]

[/size][/font][/color]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Reality:[/b][/b] [i]If [/i]the water filters out [i]anything[/i], it is not enough to lower the[url="http://www.livescience.com/health/090423-bad-habits.html"]health risks [/url].[/size][/font][/quote]

Theres a video on youtube where a guy uses a vacuum cleaner to smoke a pack of cigs and the amount of tar found in the water is outrageous. I believe the water does a good job in filtering out tar.

[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Myth #4:[/b][/b] The fruit added to flavored tobacco imparts a health benefit.[/size][/font][color="#666666"][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"] [/font][/color]

[/size][/font][/color]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Reality:[/b][/b] Fruit flavoring is just that, flavoring, and does not contribute to one's daily fruit and veggie quota.[/size][/font][/quote]

who here actually thinks that?
[/quote]


I saw that lol. I was like who the fuck is stupid enough to think the fruit flavoring actually means you are getting a full serving of fruit? Maybe they have been smoking Ed Hardy or something...
And when I do eventually decide to get pregnant I will stop smoking hookah. I know it isn't good for you, not as bad as ciggs, but not good. Anything other than oxygen in your lungs i a bad idea.

[Toxik916]

Cannon I agree with everything you just said. I really doubt we will ever see an article on a major news outlet that will be written from our view point. The media always tries to scare people about things.. This is why we have "swine flu epidemics" and anthrax scares. There is always something thats gonna kill us.

[thatonethere]

It's funny you guys should bring this up. I was just reading that article and it was funny, especially the fruit serving myth. If you really want to laugh, check out the discussion on Newsvine. You shoud see the link when you finish reading the article.

[bellydancerakn]

[quote name='thatonethere' date='10 May 2010 - 10:25 PM' timestamp='1273555553' post='467527']
It's funny you guys should bring this up. I was just reading that article and it was funny, especially the fruit serving myth. If you really want to laugh, check out the discussion on Newsvine. You shoud see the link when you finish reading the article.
[/quote]


Oh My God. How about some people do some research and actually learn about what they are talking about. Like that one guy who said he didn't know why anyone would ever smoke tobacco out of a hookah, it would ruin the hookah forever. Pendejo! Smack him a couple of times. I swear some people just watch Alice in Wonderland and think they are an expert when it comes to hookah. Because everyone knows that wasn't shisha in the catepillar's hookah, so therefore EVERYONE must be using other illegal substances in their hookahs.

Ugh

People Annoy Me.

[cr15p3rz]

i remember that video on youtube of the guy using the fan to smoke the cigarettes, he later boiled all the water out till it was straight tar if i recall correctly

[Synesthesia]

ok, that article was totally mis-informed and made me angry, but it was the newsvine comments that had me fuming...THOSE BRAIN-DEAD RETARDS putting in their 2 cents just serve to remind me of why i hate most of the human population [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif[/img] .... i had to write a comment after reading the entire lot, there was no way around it lol. most of them think we smoke NHT in our hookahs....if anyone ever asks me to put anything other than shisha in my hookah i tell them to kindly fuck off

[Lucy Ford]

[quote name='Synesthesia' date='11 May 2010 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1273561766' post='467540']
most of them think we smoke NHT in our hookahs....if anyone ever asks me to put anything other than shisha in my hookah i tell them to kindly fuck off
[/quote]

much of the same with me. recently had a guy try to sell me some NHT when he spotted me with my hookah. i laughed at him
But it's these kinds of articles that my family reads and assume that i'm either getting stoned or doing the equivalent of smoking cigs. goddamn you msnbc.

[Arcane]

[quote name='Canon' date='10 May 2010 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1273552287' post='467521']
[quote][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Myth #4:[/b][/b] The fruit added to flavored tobacco imparts a health benefit.[/size][/font][color="#666666"][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"] [/font][/color]

[/size][/font][/color]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][b]Reality:[/b][/b] Fruit flavoring is just that, flavoring, and does not contribute to one's daily fruit and veggie quota.[/size][/font][/quote]

who here actually thinks that?
[/quote]
all these years, i've been smoking Broccoli flavored tobacco because i hated eating it.....for nothing?!?! NOTHING?!?!!?!?!?

oh the deception!!!




i'm just kidding...i actually like broccoli

[bellydancerakn]

[quote name='Lucy Ford' date='11 May 2010 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1273562627' post='467542']
[quote name='Synesthesia' date='11 May 2010 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1273561766' post='467540']
most of them think we smoke NHT in our hookahs....if anyone ever asks me to put anything other than shisha in my hookah i tell them to kindly fuck off
[/quote]

much of the same with me. recently had a guy try to sell me some NHT when he spotted me with my hookah. i laughed at him
But it's these kinds of articles that my family reads and assume that i'm either getting stoned or doing the equivalent of smoking cigs. goddamn you msnbc.
[/quote]



Exactly, I was smoking with my friend and her fiance. He was being an ass, which is nothing new, and was dissing on me for how small my QT is. I told him something like Hey be nice to my Rosa, she ain't being bad to you right now is she. His reply?

him: WTF you name your hookah?
me: Um Yeah. People name their cars, why can't I name my hookah?
him: So her name is Rosa?
me: Yeah, it's german for pink.
him: Can we maybe introduce Rosa to the feminine name for NHT?
me: Hell no! You buy and wreck your own goddamn hookah for that shit!
him: What!!! Why you yelling at me? Thats what you DO with hookah.
me: No that is NOT what you DO with hookah. And if you disagree, there a couple of big ole fuckers who have a foot and 50lbs on you and would like to speak with you. Never tell a hookah smoker that you would like to use NHT with their hookah, sure way to piss 'em off.

God I am so sick of these people. I'm sick of telling my friends at work about the new hookh I'm about to buy and then getting pulled into the office because I'm talking about illegal substances and shit. Which means I have to explain to them for like a hour how hookah is not illegal and you can buy Shisha on the freaking internet, but it still ends with me getting a piss test. Edited May 11, 2010 by bellydancerakn

[Arcane]

ended up writing a post....

[thatonethere]

I tried to write something but my work wouldn't let me post it saying I was using a "social networking and/or blog" site.

Those bastards. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/774_smiley_getting_kicked_in_the_balls.gif[/img]

[NitetimeReign]

That article goes to show the media is doing what it does best, twist Fact and fiction. I busted up at the fruit serving thing, never heard that myth before..lol And I like most of you have to explain that my Hookah a QT also is JUST for flavored tobacco and NOTHING else. Whats also crazy is that when I used to drink myself silly night after night (when I was younger)LOL it was ok. But I get a Hookah and wow you would think I'm a criminal now. Reports like this as Lucy Ford said does not help our cause in people understanding why we like our Hookah to begin with. Wow once again all I can say is stupid media! [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/774_smiley_getting_kicked_in_the_balls.gif[/img]

[Stuie]

okay 2 things I noticed that bugged me before I even read the article:

1) Picture - Is the dude on the right smoking a hookah or running kissing drills on his hand?

2) Title - 1 in 4 young adults has used a hookah - I suck at grammar but I am pretty sure that's how my illiterate uncle would say that.

[b]
[/b]

[Canon]

Man, looks like HF took over newsvine
on a happy note, ive been to that lounge in the news. Just noticed that

[Josh Hamilton]

[quote ]
"Kids think the water purifies the smoke. So I ask them if when they fart in the bath tub, it the water stops the fart from smelling."
[/quote]

this made me laugh and spit my coffee on the monitor

[Chreees]

Man, that news article is so full of fail... Someone needs to make a video in response to it...

[ryno]

I had to stop reading the comments on page 2, was giving me a headache from the ignorance of people. How many of them said that cigarette tobacco in a hookah sounds like a waste? That's because it is! God America is getting retarded... I'm gonna buy that island we were talking about, and anyone from here is more than welcome.

[Chreees]

[quote name='ryno' date='11 May 2010 - 01:08 PM' timestamp='1273601334' post='467613']
I had to stop reading the comments on page 2, was giving me a headache from the ignorance of people. How many of them said that cigarette tobacco in a hookah sounds like a waste? That's because it is! God America is getting retarded... I'm gonna buy that island we were talking about, and anyone from here is more than welcome.
[/quote]

Count me in... just give me some time to convince the gf.

[Karot]

I don't necessarily mind ignorant people so much, it's a clear sign of people I know I don't ever need to talk to. It's when they start spreading lies and trying to force their uninformed view on people is when I get irritated.

[agunn1231]

[quote name='ryno' date='11 May 2010 - 11:08 AM' timestamp='1273601334' post='467613']
I had to stop reading the comments on page 2, was giving me a headache from the ignorance of people. How many of them said that cigarette tobacco in a hookah sounds like a waste? That's because it is! God America is getting retarded... I'm gonna buy that island we were talking about, and anyone from here is more than welcome.
[/quote]


Sounds like a plan....people are so stupid.

[ryno]

For those of you interested in the island: http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/24238-hookah-island/page__p__287257__hl__island__fromsearch__1&#entry287257

[bellydancerakn]

[quote name='ryno' date='11 May 2010 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1273638453' post='467695']
For those of you interested in the island: [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/24238-hookah-island/page__p__287257__hl__island__fromsearch__1&#entry287257"]http://www.hookahfor..._1&#entry287257[/url]
[/quote]


Oh lord, that is one of the more epic threads I have ever read.

You do know they sell like ghost town for 30 buck in the desert, old mining towns and such? I'm just saying...

[Caila]

This article was really frustrating. We want Mythbusters to do a special on Hookahs!! Maybe if we get enough people to write them they will do it. =)

[bradleyclark86]

[quote name='Caila' date='12 May 2010 - 12:34 PM' timestamp='1273682086' post='467757']
This article was really frustrating. We want Mythbusters to do a special on Hookahs!! Maybe if we get enough people to write them they will do it. =)
[/quote]


Amen to that. Although, knowing them, they'll blow up the hookah afterwards. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_hitting.gif[/img]

I didn't even have to read the article to know it was full of crap. I saw "MSNBC" as the source and instantly knew. I never trust corporate media for anything; independent sources only. Here's my own research: I can smoke for my usual 2 hours and still hustle my fat ass up a couple flights of stairs. Zero breathing impairment. And as far as water filatration goes, it DOES work...especially if you have a diffuser. It's weird watching your water slowly turn from clear to tan during a session.