Hookah On Msnbc

[Synesthesia]

that's such a great idea! we should all email mythbusters about doing an episode on hookah

[Arcane]

i doubt they'd do an episode that's trying to prove that hookah isn't as bad as the anti-smoking crowd wants it to be....it would essentially be like saying "these groups of people are lying." which in turn, would probably result in the show receiving a lot of hate mail....maybe even legal problems, stating they're advocating smoking. i dunno how these anti-smoking idiots think...but, i'm pretty sure it wouldn't end good...

[Caila]

[quote name='Arcane' date='13 May 2010 - 09:54 AM' timestamp='1273762496' post='467952']
i doubt they'd do an episode that's trying to prove that hookah isn't as bad as the anti-smoking crowd wants it to be....it would essentially be like saying "these groups of people are lying." which in turn, would probably result in the show receiving a lot of hate mail....maybe even legal problems, stating they're advocating smoking. i dunno how these anti-smoking idiots think...but, i'm pretty sure it wouldn't end good...
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True, but it's worth a shot!

[redjako]

[quote name='Caila' date='13 May 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1273766339' post='467967']
[quote name='Arcane' date='13 May 2010 - 09:54 AM' timestamp='1273762496' post='467952']
i doubt they'd do an episode that's trying to prove that hookah isn't as bad as the anti-smoking crowd wants it to be....it would essentially be like saying "these groups of people are lying." which in turn, would probably result in the show receiving a lot of hate mail....maybe even legal problems, stating they're advocating smoking. i dunno how these anti-smoking idiots think...but, i'm pretty sure it wouldn't end good...
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True, but it's worth a shot!
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Basically, the only way your getting a good hookah study vs ciggs is probably from the industry (like the giant Starbuzz) which, is then automatically tainted as it is sponsored by the industry.

However, I like to always point out the flaws in study's.

From Eric:
[quote]Here's a fun study that says its not that dangerous. This study involves people who smoke 50% tobacco/50% molasses mixtures and not cigarettes....

[url="http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/5/1/19#B3"]Hookah Tobacco Study[/url]

It has real things like statistics, data, hypotheses and all the stuff that makes science actually something worth reading.[/quote]

and here:
[url="http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/6/2/798"]http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/6/2/798[/url]

here:
[url="http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/5/1/19"]http://www.harmreduc.../content/5/1/19[/url]
[quote]
[b]Conclusion[/b]
Overall [b]CEA levels in exclusive hookah smokers were low compared to cigarette smokers. However, heavy hookah smoking substantially raises CEA levels. [/b]Low-nitrosamines smokeless tobacco of the SNUS Swedish type could be envisaged as an alternative to smoking for this category of users and also, in a broad harm reduction perspective, to the prevalent low-quality moist snuff called naswar.

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This is called..duh.


And this article stomps on the poorly constructed WHO recommendation of waterpipes being the next epidemic:
[url="http://www.jnrbm.com/content/5/1/17Chaouachi"]http://www.jnrbm.com...5/1/17Chaouachi[/url], K. (2006). A critique of the WHO TobReg's "advisory note" report entitled: "Waterpipe tobacco smoking: health effects, research needs and recommended actions by regulators." [i]Journal of Negative Results in BioMedicine[/i] 5:17. Edited May 14, 2010 by redjako

[ewanj6]

When i did my University dissertation, EVERY SINGLE POINT WAS REFERENCED!!!

Shame you can just post anything on the news - 'ssome people think'', studies etc etc

NO proof as usual, and the usual scaremongering. Not sure who's more of the idiot - the people that let this go on, or the smokers who have gone *#it, i need to stop