What Is So Special About The Khalil Maamoon Hoohkah?

[wazzi]

I want to know what is so special about the khalil maamoon hookah that everybody wants it??????

[TheyCallMeDave]

In the next 24 hours, you are about to be bombarded with information on the KM hookah. Grab a pen and paper. Haha.

[wazzi]

no need for pen and paper.thats why they have invented the computer for.lol

[TheyCallMeDave]

[quote name='wazzi' date='22 May 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1274545084' post='469017']
no need for pen and paper.thats why they have invented the computer for.lol
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Figure of speech, wazzi. Figure of speech.

[mushrat]

nothing. They are nice looking Egyptian pipes that have the same hand made issues as many other egyptian pipes without a fancy name and a price tag. Popularity runs in waves on this forum and at some point it will be some other pipe that's the "gotta have" item.

That being said I do own one so this isn't just uneducated "hating".

[Tyler]

Honestly its just because they're easy to get ahold of, clean looking, traditional looking, perform well, and last for a long time. Other hookahs of the same style are just as good so it basically comes down to looks. I personally like my AF Large Solid better than any KM I've ever smoked from. MZ are basically the same. KM is just the par-standard of most hookah smokers that take their hobby seriously, there are better and there are worse.

[mushrat]

[quote name='Tyler' date='22 May 2010 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1274553496' post='469033']
Honestly its just because they're easy to get ahold of, clean looking, traditional looking, perform well, and last for a long time. Other hookahs of the same style are just as good so it basically comes down to looks. I personally like my AF Large Solid better than any KM I've ever smoked from. MZ are basically the same. KM is just the par-standard of most hookah smokers that take their hobby seriously, there are better and there are worse.
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Well said.

[Arcane]

having a few KMs myself and a few other types of hookahs, i prefer the KMs because more often than not...i run into less problems with them and they seem to be wider gauged than most other hookahs...

granted, it may not be because of the brand, but instead of the vendor picking out better KMs than other types of hookahs...out of the 10 or so KMs i've owned, there was only a slight problem with one. every other hookah (minus the temsah and al nawras look-a-like) had issues...

if i had to buy another hookah, i wouldn't hesitate getting a KM....but, i'd want to do a little research on every other hookah brand out there...it's just my experience and track record for me.

[rahl071]

They have an advantage of a traditional chamber, which leads to ease of purging. Here's the deal. They probably are better suited to a single person smoking. They are mostly single-hose affairs, they look great, they are well made, and they have a name brand to back them up. Multi-hose models are available, but they don't have check valves in them so the thumb issue arises. Many people have bought them, they like them, and are a tried and true brand name.

[Rani]

For me it's all of the above, but also because quite simply they are kind of the originator of quality Egyptian hookahs. And I prefer to stay with the originators when at all possible. Brand loyalty kind of thing. I figure if you invent something or improve on something, your business should be rewarded. I would never buy a Chinese phunnel for instance. Just kind of the way I think.

'Rani

[Hassouni]

Where exactly is it said they were the first? Modern nargile designs have been basically unchanged since Ottoman times

[Rani]

[quote name='Hassouni' date='23 May 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1274599787' post='469102']
Where exactly is it said they were the first? Modern nargile designs have been basically unchanged since Ottoman times
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Of course, and maybe I didn't make it clear or you didn't read clearly enough "quality" "Egyptian", "improve on something" being the key points. Sure hookahs have been around nearly forever, but in the quality KM instituted for export? Not so much. Especially when you're talking about the older brass version (lucky me who owns one).

'Rani

[hookah hippie]

I like them because of consistency it's easier to purchase a product you have experience with. They do perform optimally, but are they the best? It's all opinion my favorite hookah you could hate. It depends on what hookah you like that is the one to use.

[thecoalition]

every hookah i have owned (aside from my first which was a syrian) has either been a mya or KM. The last two I have purchased were both KM. After selling all my old stuff and then coming back to hookah after a year I knew I was going straight back with KM. Reasons were .....
1. Clean traditional look egyption hookahs
2. Solid build quality
3. (my particular want) all copper downstem (no rusting)
4. 1 piece construction
5. Durability - I have knocked the downstem off my counter while cleaning it and gotten it stuck in a vase after trying to get a bigger grommet on it (made it so tight I almost had to smash the base to get it off) but after so much torque I thought the downstem would break it finally popped out of the base.

6...some attribute this to the downstem some to the coals/shisha - hit hard and long when smoking.


I wouldn't recommend an ice chamber...personally I feel that they don't do anything and I've owned both km's with and without.

[mushrat]

actually if you are looking for early quality, Hookah Brothers/MZ were an early brand as well. As well as Nours.

And I have one of each of those.

[ih303]

We sell KM, MZ, Temsah, and Mya at my lounge and just recently picked up a few Nammor. Based on what I've seen come back with problems, I've come to the conclusion that no one brand is any better than the next. It all comes down to preference. That being said, I still believe brand is important.

As hinted at earlier by Tyler, consumers need baselines, benchmarks, and pars in order to make educated decisions. These can represent all manner of attributes important to consumers such as quality, price, efficacy, etc. And in this market, just as Chinese Hookahs are holding down the bottom of the range, KMs and Myas are holding down the top.

It's important to remember, though, that these units of measure are based on nothing but popular opinion, which by nature is skewed towards, well, the popular. So are they accurate? Maybe. Maybe not.

The unique thing about this industry is there really isn't a ton of marketing involved like there is in other industries. That means, a lot of the information you'll find out there is based on actual experience vs. marketing hype - especially on this forum. Still, different things appeal to different people. My advice - start trying and buying hookahs. Draw your own conclusions. Then take a step back and see if you agree with the hype.

Here are my observations of the top Egyptian brands:

KM - Great hookahs. I prefer the solid ones because of how sturdy they are. It seems like a lot of the new ones are hollow. I've seen problems with welds breaking and the hollow bits leaking. I've also had the dreaded "hookah rattle" that comes from some piece of solder or something getting stuck in a hollow segment and bouncing all around in there.

Temsah - I think I actually prefer the Temsahs at this point simply becuase I'm a big fan of solid hookahs. They also tend to use brass and nickel plating on a lot of their pieces which I think are both sharper than stainless steel. Very nice, heavy hookahs, but I've seen welds break on these guys as well.

MZ - I've never been a fan of Magdy Zidan. All the ones I've seen are hollow, light, and just feel hella cheap. I've never seen any of these come back because of how few we sell - no one seems to want them regardless of price. I'm sure these guys smoke well because their ID is about the same as the new KM's, but I've never actually tried.

Nammor - These are kind of weird. Some of them are apparently made from KM parts, and one that I got in looked like it had an MZ shank. The other I got seems to have a KM Jumbo base and then a shank like I've never seen. The Shank looks great, but it's hollow, and the craftsmenship is shotty at best. They all have cool bases, though. And I really like the brass inlay on some of them.

Hope this helps!

[newjacksm]

I use to like them more when they were about 50-90 dollars. now forget about it everyone is trying to take everyones dime. However, I dont need another hookah I have 4, 2 of which are KM, 1 Mya and 1 AF.

I am happy with all of them, but I do smoke my KM's the most.

[delSol_si]

I've had KM, MZ, AF, and Mya...my favorite has been KM. Actually, the only three hookahs I own anymore are 2 KMs and a mya. I almost got rid of the mya, but don't think i will get enough off it to make it worth my time.

I like KM because their hose ports are great and they have minimal restriction...oh, and they last I bought my first KM almost a year and a half ago and it still smokes like a champ. I also like the rumble bubble they put on the downstem.

[redjako]

[quote name='wazzi' date='22 May 2010 - 09:48 AM' timestamp='1274543308' post='469012']
I want to know what is so special about the khalil maamoon hookah that everybody wants it??????
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They have a massive downstem. Bigger is better, so it feels like your breathing when you pull (meaning, their is no Pull resistance). In fact, my friends bitch laughingly that its too easy to pull so its easy to get all light headed from over-smoking.

That being said, the quality is..cheap. Ball bearing was rusted all ready (HAHA) when I got mine in, had to sand down the grommet to fix in the base, etc.

It pulls better then my 36" AF solid, which is a massive beast, and all around is my new favorite hookah.


It has GOOD PULL and GOOD PURGE.

[Grappler]

[quote name='redjako' date='26 May 2010 - 05:56 PM' timestamp='1274921782' post='469562']
[quote name='wazzi' date='22 May 2010 - 09:48 AM' timestamp='1274543308' post='469012']
I want to know what is so special about the khalil maamoon hookah that everybody wants it??????
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They have a massive downstem. Bigger is better, so it feels like your breathing when you pull (meaning, their is no Pull resistance). In fact, my friends bitch laughingly that its too easy to pull so its easy to get all light headed from over-smoking.

That being said, the quality is..cheap. Ball bearing was rusted all ready (HAHA) when I got mine in, had to sand down the grommet to fix in the base, etc.

It pulls better then my 36" AF solid, which is a massive beast, and all around is my new favorite hookah.


It has GOOD PULL and GOOD PURGE.
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I bought a Khalil recently and I also noticed how easy of a pull it was. However, I havn't had a problem with anything yet. But its also new so we will see I suppose

[mushrat]

[quote name='delSol_si' date='25 May 2010 - 12:13 AM' timestamp='1274760822' post='469365']
I've had KM, MZ, AF, and Mya...my favorite has been KM. Actually, the only three hookahs I own anymore are 2 KMs and a mya. I almost got rid of the mya, but don't think i will get enough off it to make it worth my time.

I like KM because their hose ports are great and they have minimal restriction...oh, and they last I bought my first KM almost a year and a half ago and it still smokes like a champ. I also like the rumble bubble they put on the downstem.
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Rumble Bubble?