Fml- Dealing With Crazy Neighbors

[thatonethere]

So here's the deal. My husband and I had cut down a tree 3 years ago, and we were burning the stump. It took quite some time in order to get the stump burned all the way down to the desired level. My neighbors knew we were burning the stump. We were very careful to take the necessary precautions when burning it (digging a bole around the stump, and maintaining a very low fire). I went off to work while my husband maintained the burn. Since the fire had burned down to coals, he went in the house to grab a beer and some marshmallows for roasting because he figured he'd take the time to chill out while he was finishing his project. He heard a big diesel engine outside, and he went to investigate. Guess what?? The neighbors called the fire department.

Now here's a background on my neighbors. They had been finding ways to harass us as soon as we moved into our home three years ago. They called the city to report our lawn as "not being green enough" and for it being more than "6" long). They wrote us a nasty letter telling us that we should move to an apartment because we "clearly don't know how to own a house" and "that's where we belong". Since the, we installed Zoyzia grass to replace the crappy grass we already had. The home we bought was a HUD home and it needed a lot of work on the inside. While we were working on the house, we had to remove a whole lot of crap, As we removed all of the crap, the neighbor called the city because we were removing it, and we were waiting until the weekend to haul it away. We thought she decided to bury the hatchet because she gave us a tile saw that her husband was no longer using. Her husband had been doing tile projects in his house, and since they finished, they had no use for it. A week later, the fire department was called. Luckilly, the fire department was very reasonable, and they asked my husband if he was having a cook out, and that the fire would be legal if he was. My husband said he was. The funny thing was that my other neighbor (whose really cool) came across the street and said "What? The neighbors are still harassing you guys? just so the fire deparment could hear him say it. With that, the fire department left us alone, and my husband added more wood to the fire just to piss off the neighbors. But the interesting thing was that the neighbors were outside when the fire department came. They were inside before the fire dept showed up.

I kept thinking to myself "What the hell is this woman's problem?" My husband and I keep to ourselves, we aren't loud, and we are friendly. We talk to the rest of our neighbors, and are friends with them. We maintain our yard, and have a lot of beautiful flowers. I talked to my friend about the situation, and she thinks the neighbor might be racist and have a problem with interracial relationships. I've spoken to them before all of the trouble started and they seemed like nice people. I'm thinking the neighbor's wife is one of those kinds of people who like to pretend to be nice and then case trouble just so she can pretend to be nice again. The sad thing is that I bought that house, so I'm stuck with it until I can fix it. I love my neighborhood, I just hate this woman and wish she would hurry up and die. She's not really old (mid to late 40s), and it seems like she's trying to compete with us. Every new thing we add to our yard, she does something similar. I have come to two conclusions throughout this ordeal:
1. she might be an unhappy woman who is probably going through menopause, and has to find something to control.
2. People in the US who say "love is blind" are full of shit. Love is only blind if you and your partner are of the same race, and same religion as long as the religion is in a familiar vein of Christianity.

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What can I do to get this lady to leave us alone? Is there any legal avenue I can take?

[matias]

I live in Spain so I have no idea about legal avenues, but I feel for you. Neighbours have high potential for good or bad, as you verily seem to have experienced, and when it's bad, it's bad
I guess the safest thing is not to give them any ground for their crazy complaint (not easy, as the characteristic of crazy complaints is that they are... crazy and hard to foresee), ignore them as if they could not bother you (even if they do) and make a lot of mixed race kids so that if they indeed are bothered by "miscegenation" they suffer a little more for it. Take their childish front yard competition for what it is, a tribute to your good taste and original ideas.

[Chreees]

I say go off on your neighbors and tell 'em how you really feel...

Then smoke some hookah cause you'll feel sooo good about getting it off your chest. Make sure to smoke outside where they can see you, to rub it in their faces and be like, "I DARE you to call the cops because you think I'm smoking something other than tobacco..."

[thatonethere]

Update!!! I just thought of something. What if she calls the police and says that we stole her husbands tile saw???? I'm going to have to draw up a document for her to sign so she doesn't try to haul my husband and I off to jail because we have no proof that she gave it to us other than my husband's word.



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[Chreees]

[quote name='thatonethere' date='25 May 2010 - 06:58 AM' timestamp='1274788700' post='469393']
Update!!! I just thought of something. What if she calls the police and says that we stole her husbands tile saw???? I'm going to have to draw up a document for her to sign so she doesn't try to haul my husband and I off to jail because we have no proof that she gave it to us other than my husband's word.
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I'd just give it back, be like, "Hey, I don't want you coming back and saying we stole this, so here, I'm giving it back to you..." Gotta cover your ass. You really think she'll sign a document? This woman sounds a lot like my mom in the way of starting shit, so I'd just give it back...

[joytron]

I dont think there are any lawyers on this forum, and I am not one so I would be sure to look into it further, but I believe that this is not really any legal course of action you can take.

[Venger]

we had a similar situation growing up. My parents moved into this quiet city neighborhood. Our house was previously owned by a little old lady.When we moved in it was my parents and us three kids all old enough to drive and have our own cars. So this lady across the street thought she was the queen of the block. If your grass was too long she would call the town,ect. Well now she has gone from a little old lady to a family of ruffians.
she would complain about where our cars were parked.what time we came and went.The noise. So after trying to appease her I finally snapped and told my folks I was making it my personal mission to drive this woman crazy and to not try and stop me. I would put my car at the end of her driveway but across the street so she would have to be extra careful backing out. Pink flamingos in the lawn.An old toilet with flowers planted in it on the front lawn. Nothing illegal but I knew I was driving her crazy.
Ray
Ps its your neighborhood,enjoy it.don't let her get to you.as long as your not doing anything illegal let her call the cops and fire dept.eventually they will tell her to stop calling on this nonsense or she will be the one in trouble.Cops hate being call for petty shit. Sorry about your Mrs.Kravitz problem.

[mustafabey]

Yes, you could drive her crazy. Paint the house some god awful color or something. Revenge is sweet, however it leads to war. Do you really want to get into a state of war with her? Its going to sap all your energy. Give the tile saw back .... and see if you can open a dialogue with her. Tell her how you feel, ask her how she feels. Find out the problem. Try to fix it if possible. Let you husband do the same thing with the man of the house, find a common demoninator. If they persist, try to ignore them (I know that's going to be hard) but if this lady gets a charge out of this then if you negate the charge she gets she'll go somewhere else. At the moment they are not costing money, just grief. And, please, don't pray for her death, that puts out so much negative energy and that crap has a habit of returning home.
How about the neighbors, can they help? Maybe they know what the problem is, maybe they've had similar run ins and learned how to deal with it. Best of luck

[TheScotsman]

This is completely why I got out of the city. citidiots! I'm going to agree with Incubus

Those HUD repos are thrashed, you know it's not about the property appearance. Any neighbor would want someone living there, taking care of it. A repo-dump affects everyone's value in the neighborhood, Making it look lived in, and fixing it is helping her bottom line. My guess would be you have a bigot on your hands. Only way to fight bullshit, is with bullshit. You have to decide weather you want to try to "build" a friendly relationship with the biotch. IMNHO that's not happening, but you can try. Once you give up on that:

Make a police report for harassment, they won't take it, but insist on a call-screen number. The coppers will go tell the neighbor you are insane, and trying to make a harassment complaint. Maybe the neighbor will get the hint that it's escalating to a legal level, and cease. Not likely, but you can hope.

file a complaint for orders of protection (or whatever they call it there) You may/most likely not get one, doesn't matter in the end. Dropping all your documentation in front of a judge will get the attention of the dumbest neighbor.

Remember, the video camera is your best friend. People get insane when you point one their way. A good fake security camera pointed at a neighbor's front yard can be entertaining.


enroll her in various racist orgs, preferably with a free snail-mail newsletter. A few sent to work address.
shake the "bill me" subscription cards out of a bunch of pornos, and insane survivalist mags at a news stand. She needs some reading material, don't forget work addy.
A book club, or 5 are always a nice touch.
Open the test box for her phone line, plug in any modular phone, and make a few 900# calls. 911, and act like you are her, being beaten by her husband at 2AM...
(I would say order a pizza for her, but I like pizza, and the only one that gets hosed there is the pizza-dude)
A few dozen fliers posted at the local teenie-boper handouts, advertising a big party at her address are cool (and funny to watch)
A friend with a sexy voice calling at "strange" hours and asking for the husband/wife does wonders

I raced a vintage H hydro at the time, the occasional 2:00 am turnover was rare... but seems to have happened a few times. I love the way the roar of zoomies echos off houses in the early morning-blue fire out the tubes really gets the blood flowing!

Questionable, yes, legal? well.... entertaining? definitely good for the soul? Very much so.

If you keep them busy stomping out fires in their lives, they seem to be content leaving you alone. Eventually you can hone the art of annoying her into a fine skill.


Come to think of it... I may have been "the neighbor from hell" Maybe moving to the sticks was better for all of us.

[thatonethere]

I really don't want to start a war. Being mad all of the time hurts, and zaps too much of my energy. I want my home to be a refuge and a sanctuary, not a war zone. I talked to my husband about the tile saw issue and now he thinks I am crazy. I think I might invest in that dummy camera and point it at her house since pointing real cameras at other people can be classified as voyerism, and might hold up in court (in case it escalates). I don't want to drag my friends into this, and I tried to build a friendship with her until she sent me an evil letter. Ever since then, I decided I was done and wanted nothing to do with her. My husband says that since she really isn't all that bright anyway, maybe it was a real gesture of kindness. It has been almost 5 years, and she can see all of the effort we put into making that house into a home. In fact, the other neighbors love what we've done with the yard, and those who visit love what we've done with the inside. Her husband even complimented on how he likes what we've done with the front yard. I even caught him peacefully gazing at our pond. I never saw him look so happy (it was kind of weird). Our yard isn't perfect just yet, as we have a few more things we'd like to do with it, but I don't think I can handle dealing with this anymore.


Maybe a 7 foot tall fence designed to block their view is in order.

Regarding getting her to sign a document: I figure that I'd tell her that just in case we get audited by the IRS, I'd need her to sign the document saying that the tile saw was a gift. I'll make the document and present it to her. Hopefully, she'll sign it. Or maybe I'll make things worse (God I hope not[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif[/img] ).

[Charley]

crazy only understands crazier. trust me im a redneck were all insane.

i worked nights. so I slept days. my neighbor would blast his stereo all day long keeping me awake. then he would call the cops on me at night when i was watching TV after I got home. they would show up and say we got a report your tv is to loud. (this would happen even if i had it muted he set there and watched for the light from the tv to come on.) so one day before i left for work I took every tv out of my house and hung one of those glow boxes where my tv was. (glow box lights with mirrors turn it on and it makes an infinity tunnel but through curtains it looks like a tv)

well cops show up. this time i invite them in and tell them im getting sick of this harassment. then proceed to show them there is not a tv or radio in the entire house. after that they quit responding to his calls about me. I then got the biggest speakers I could and then every night when he turned off his lights I blasted the worst music I could find at an ungodly volume. after a few days he kicked my door in and threatened me he just burst right in.

mistake.

not only did I beat the living hell out of him but i had him arrested.

I have also in the past started compost piles where they are upwind of my neighbors. I have answered the door while holding a shot gun when they have come over to complain about something. (holding not pointing holding a gun is not illegal pointing it at someone is.) I have had fun with blue tooth lol I would be out where the neighbors could hear me and i would make sure to talk loud enough they could hear me. "yea that stupid #### tried to cheat me, of course I took care of her. well a shot gun blast to the face will pretty much take care of anybody." (even tho those words sound like I committed a crime there is nothing against the law about it as far as the police are concerned the person on the other end of the line could have said "yea she always cheats at games, did you feed my dog today? did you see how they took care of that guy on the sopranos last night?")

the point is if they got crazy I would get crazier sooner then latter thell get the point. just stay legal.


btw any book by George Hayduke will help you quite a bit. my favorite is.

Get Even: The Complete Book Of Dirty Tricks.

you can find a full list of revenge books written by him at this site. (most of his books are available for free online.)

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/31229.George_Hayduke

[thatonethere]

That's awesome Charley! I couldn't see them bursting into my house, but maybe if they had enough balls to come up on my door step and ring the bell, I'll answer the door with my .22. A .22 isn't much but it's a gun and will have enough impact to make somebody think twice. But then again if they try anything on my property, the surveilence cameras will get them. I like that blue tooth idea. I might have to try that. I'll look into these books in the future.

[F16WarBird]

Personally, I would return the saw and cease all communication with those fucktards.

[KeepItSimple]

Dude, i'm hearing some crazy shit come from people. I don't know what types of lives you live, but you seriously can't expect that putting such negative energy and time into getting revenge will somehow solve the problems. Just cause your neighbors are being dicks doesn't give you the right to go overboard and fuck up their whole life with fake 911 calls by tapping into their fucking phone box. Just cause your neighbors stopped doing what annoyed you with your "tricks" and shotguns, it's not gonna make YOU any less of an asshole in the long run. I'm speaking figuratively of course, because I wouldn't ever attack someone on the forum, it would make me seem like an ass. haha.

Just go talk to them, and see whats going on, and don't fall for any of her "What are you talking about?" bullshit. Be frank and get your point across. It could all be a big misunderstanding, or your neighbor could be the anti-christ. Right now all your going off of is your interpretation of what happened. Just go find out, and if it comes to it, threaten legal action. That part of what The Scotsman said, about filling a harassment complaint was a good idea.

At the very most, if you really feel like you need to get revenge, which I don't see what purpose it would serve, then I vote for having the racists newsletters sent to her house. But I'm pretty sure that it's a federal offense to sign someone up for anything related to mail. Not sure on that, but why risk it?

Anyway, hope it all works out for you.

[bellydancerakn]

Yeah my mom is a social worker and all this crazy shit sounds borderline. What you want to do is have the neighbors and the police/fire department on your side. Outnumber her. Start keeping proof of BS she is doing. Paperwork and pictures. Have it dated and signed. Filing a harrasment complaint is a good way of getting the ball rolling. That way it is on paper with proof of her starting it. If she gets the message, she will back off. If she doesn't, well then she has to play catch-up. Keeps pictures and documents, if she calls the police or fire depatment for another pointless thing have the police sign something saying they came at this date and time and found nothing wrong with you or your household.

Maybe have a security system installed in your house, with cameras pointed at your lawn and entrances. Further proof backing up your claims. If you are going to have a cookout or a party (maybe even something that will probably set her off) video tape it, make sure it has a time stamp on it that is correct. There is forensics that can match shadows with time and date.

Now just to freak her out lol, I might stoop to having a fake camera pointed at her lawn. don't sign her up for racist/porno mags. Frankly, it makes YOU look like an asshole, not her. Also, do not blast your music or peel out of your drive at 3am. That is a good way to piss off the neighbors besides her. You need them on your side, not hers. If this ends up in court, you want your nice neighbors to be able to testify against them.
Also, I do love the idea of you smoking hookah on your front stoop. Make sure it is loud and bubbly lol. She probably will call the cops. The cops will come, probably have it tested, and find no traces of NHT.

But before your start this, talk to her. Be frank and open and honest. Invite her out for coffee. Take a tape recorder, and record the conversation, hide the tape recorder in your coat or purse. MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS IN PUBLIC. It is illegal to tape someone in private without their knowledge. But if it is in public, she has no reasonable belief in privacy. If you two figure out your differances then you have no need of the recording, but if she gets racist and mean then you just have proof against her.

I hope this helps, and that you figure this out without having to resort to the legal system.

[Rani]

I'm not in favor of going to war unless you're fighting for your life. I mean, everybody in the neighborhood thought Jeffrey Daumer was a great neighbor. You never know when you're going to come up against seriously crazy so why escalate anything you don't need to. My ex-boyfriend had a true saying: "You never know if the next person you piss off is going to be your maker." I'm not saying anyone should live in fear, but I wouldn't court anger and escalating problems. And besides it's really, really hard to keep a good mad on in the face of kindness.

So personally, I'd return the tile saw because it's just not worth worrying about it when you can rent one reasonably. And then I'd go out of my way to kill them with kindness. Host a real neighborhood cookout and invite them along with everyone else. Next time you make cupcakes, make an extra dozen and drop them off. Whatever. Bury them under your generosity of spirit and kindness. And if it really bothers you to do what it takes to repay their rudeness with kindness, just imagine how much it's going to confuse them! There is after all a certain lasting pleasure of not being the one to break control.

'Rani

[KeepItSimple]

[quote name='Rani' date='26 May 2010 - 12:58 AM' timestamp='1274860694' post='469504']
I'm not in favor of going to war unless you're fighting for your life. I mean, everybody in the neighborhood thought Jeffrey Daumer was a great neighbor. You never know when you're going to come up against seriously crazy so why escalate anything you don't need to. My ex-boyfriend had a true saying: "You never know if the next person you piss off is going to be your maker." I'm not saying anyone should live in fear, but I wouldn't court anger and escalating problems. And besides it's really, really hard to keep a good mad on in the face of kindness.

So personally, I'd return the tile saw because it's just not worth worrying about it when you can rent one reasonably. And then I'd go out of my way to kill them with kindness. Host a real neighborhood cookout and invite them along with everyone else. Next time you make cupcakes, make an extra dozen and drop them off. Whatever. Bury them under your generosity of spirit and kindness. And if it really bothers you to do what it takes to repay their rudeness with kindness, just imagine how much it's going to confuse them! There is after all a certain lasting pleasure of not being the one to break control.

'Rani
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Yay, someone makes sense!

[F16WarBird]

As a homeowner, I make it a point not to start a feud with a neighbor, even if he/she is a douche nozzle. I still have to live next to them even if I don't like them.

30 seconds of revenge could cost a helluva lot more than a 30 year mortgage.

[thatonethere]

I'm thinking about just keeping the tile saw as a gift, and I will personally thank her for giving it to us since this was my original plan. I've been keeping a log of all of the incidences and the dated letters she (and her friend)sent my way. I have already spoken to the city, so they have left me alone regarding the lawn issues. Several city officials have already dismissed her (City ordinance people and Animal control, and now the fire department) I already spoke to her regarding the lawn issue, but all it did was make her act like an idiot. Since then she had been snooping around and peeking through her windows trying to catch a glympse of us (I caught her last weekend doing it). Part of me looks at like this, as long as she stays away from my house and my property, she could peek all she wants. Here's what I plan to do and what steps I plan to take:

1. Personally thank her for such a nice gesture.
2. Install video cameras. If things get crazy, I'll put a fake camera up and point it towards her yard.

If worse comes to worse:
Build a 7 foot fence that blocks her view.

I've already pissed her off by saying that I'm not moving away, and I don't plan to. If they hate us so much then they should go. I find it a coincidence that the only people who hate us are her and her friend across the street. The people who live next to her friend across the street love us, but hate her, and her friend. I don't want to piss off my other neighbors, so I won't consider the music blaring, horn honking, and/or various other annoyances. Besides, I don't have the money to just pick up and move whenever someone next to me sucks.

[b]"30 seconds of revenge could cost a helluva lot more than a 30 year mortgage."[/b]

Exactly.

Thanks for letting me vent. I hope things get better.

[thatonethere]

[quote name='TheScotsman' date='25 May 2010 - 10:52 AM' timestamp='1274806345' post='469442']
This is completely why I got out of the city. citidiots! I'm going to agree with Incubus

[b]Those HUD repos are thrashed, you know it's not about the property appearance. Any neighbor would want someone living there, taking care of it. A repo-dump affects everyone's value in the neighborhood, Making it look lived in, and fixing it is helping her bottom line.[/b] My guess would be you have a bigot on your hands. Only way to fight bullshit, is with bullshit. [color="#ff0000"]Geez, you make the situation surrounding my house seem like it's such a piece of shit. The house needed the hard wood restored some paint, and a new water heater to make it livable. A kitchen and bath remodel is extra. Other than that, it was a hell of a deal! But I get your point here.[/color]

Make a police report for harassment, they won't take it, but insist on a call-screen number. The coppers will go tell the neighbor you are insane, and trying to make a harassment complaint. Maybe the neighbor will get the hint that it's escalating to a legal level, and cease. Not likely, but you can hope. [color="#ff0000"]What is an "on call screen number"?[/color]

file a complaint for orders of protection (or whatever they call it there) You may/most likely not get one, doesn't matter in the end. Dropping all your documentation in front of a judge will get the attention of the dumbest neighbor.

Remember, the video camera is your best friend. People get insane when you point one their way. A good fake security camera pointed at a neighbor's front yard can be entertaining.


enroll her in various racist orgs, preferably with a free snail-mail newsletter. A few sent to work address.
shake the "bill me" subscription cards out of a bunch of pornos, and insane survivalist mags at a news stand. She needs some reading material, don't forget work addy.
A book club, or 5 are always a nice touch.
Open the test box for her phone line, plug in any modular phone, and make a few 900# calls. 911, and act like you are her, being beaten by her husband at 2AM... [color="#ff0000"]Fake 911 calls can get me in a whole lot of trouble. Plus I'd look quite suspicious trying to gain access to the test box for her phone, and she has 3 medium sized dogs that bark. I wouldn't want to be caught on her property.[/color]
(I would say order a pizza for her, but I like pizza, and the only one that gets hosed there is the pizza-dude)
A few dozen fliers posted at the local teenie-boper handouts, advertising a big party at her address are cool (and funny to watch)
A friend with a sexy voice calling at "strange" hours and asking for the husband/wife does wonders

I raced a vintage H hydro at the time, the occasional 2:00 am turnover was rare... but seems to have happened a few times. I love the way the roar of zoomies echos off houses in the early morning-blue fire out the tubes really gets the blood flowing! [color="#ff0000"]I work the night shift myself, so I don't think I'd want someone to cause havoc while I was sleeping, so I try my best to be considerate of those who sleep during regular hours. [/color]
Questionable, yes, legal? well.... entertaining? definitely good for the soul? Very much so.

If you keep them busy stomping out fires in their lives, they seem to be content leaving you alone. Eventually you can hone the art of annoying her into a fine skill. [color="#ff0000"]T[/color][color="#ff0000"]he last thing I want is to raise hell with the other neighbors. I prefer to mind my own business for the most part. Basically I don't care what goes on in anybody elses yard or what they are doing on their porches, etc. As long as it doesn't ruin my property, they can do what they like.[/color]

Come to think of it... I may have been "the neighbor from hell" Maybe moving to the sticks was better for all of us. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif[/img] [/quote]

[color="#000000"][color="#000000"]This is just a general observation not directed at anyone here, but:
[color="#000000"][color="#000000"][/color][/color]
I enjoy being close to everything and I'll be damned if I let someone take away my right to live where I want to live in this country. I was born and raised here, and I would have served this country if my vision passed the physical.[/color] Why is it that in 2010, people who were born, raised here and could have/or did served/serve their country [i]still[/i] have to justify their right to live/work anywhere they want? I shouldn't have to go through this.
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Sometimes, I feel like I should get some money together and go live in Curacao, or another one of those islands off the coast of Brazil. I wonder if they ever have to deal with bullshit like this. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif[/img] Edited May 26, 2010 by thatonethere

[matias]

[quote name='KeepItSimple' date='26 May 2010 - 09:14 AM' timestamp='1274858098' post='469502']
Dude, i'm hearing some crazy shit come from people. I don't know what types of lives you live, but you seriously can't expect that putting such negative energy and time into getting revenge will somehow solve the problems. Just cause your neighbors are being dicks doesn't give you the right to go overboard and fuck up their whole life with fake 911 calls by tapping into their fucking phone box. Just cause your neighbors stopped doing what annoyed you with your "tricks" and shotguns, it's not gonna make YOU any less of an asshole in the long run. I'm speaking figuratively of course, because I wouldn't ever attack someone on the forum, it would make me seem like an ass. haha.

Just go talk to them, and see whats going on, and don't fall for any of her "What are you talking about?" bullshit. Be frank and get your point across. It could all be a big misunderstanding, or your neighbor could be the anti-christ. Right now all your going off of is your interpretation of what happened. Just go find out, and if it comes to it, threaten legal action. That part of what The Scotsman said, about filling a harassment complaint was a good idea.

At the very most, if you really feel like you need to get revenge, which I don't see what purpose it would serve, then I vote for having the racists newsletters sent to her house. But I'm pretty sure that it's a federal offense to sign someone up for anything related to mail. Not sure on that, but why risk it?

Anyway, hope it all works out for you.
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[Venger]

wisdom from the good book. basically saying being nice while they treat you bad drives them nuts.
[size="4"][color="#dd4400"][color="#bb0000"][b]Romans 12:19[/b][/color] Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. [size="2"][color="#770000"](20)[/color][/size] On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Ray

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[Zeaken]

I have had issues with my neighbor as well although they are dog related issues. The neighbor has a few dogs, one of which is a pitbull mix. I am a huge dog lover and hate how breeds are stereo typed but this pit is just the meanest thing ever and possibly one of the most stupid dogs with the exception of my others neighbors dog who broke its leg by tripping over a hole it dug in the yard. poor newfie

Recently the pitbull was off its lead for some reason or another and nearly bit one of my family members. (it tried to bite the arms but luckily the person knew to hide them from the dog and get away) The neighbors got a call and were told they need to keep that dog on a lead or else its eventually going to bite some one and no one wants that. They responded by saying my 120 pound akita antagonized their dog into doing so even though he wasnt present when the incident occured.

neighbors are stupid. In my case they cant understand that a dog not present isnt going to cause problems. They obviously missed the point that having a mean dog of any breed off a leash is a huge liability. finaly they missed that their 40 pound dog is going to become a snack of my 120 pound dog if their dog ever tries to attack me while i am walking it. My dog has strong famlie ties, he is very mellow and loves all people but as an akita he is protective. if you have ever been an akita owner you know what i am talking about.

The key is to just ignore them and not start fights. if they persist as you ignore them file a harassment charge with the records you have kept. starting a pissing match is for the cold hearted folk who sap pleasure from being in the conflict. I might be one of those people but if its draining in the slightest its a terrible idea all around. actually, its just a terrible idea in general and bad for your well being and health but then but then again everyone indulges in things they technically shouldnt.... [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Hookah.gif[/img]

[TheScotsman]

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[quote name='TheScotsman' date='25 May 2010 - 10:52 AM' timestamp='1274806345' post='469442']
This is completely why I got out of the city. citidiots! I'm going to agree with Incubus

[b]Those HUD repos are thrashed, you know it's not about the property appearance. Any neighbor would want someone living there, taking care of it. A repo-dump affects everyone's value in the neighborhood, Making it look lived in, and fixing it is helping her bottom line.[/b] My guess would be you have a bigot on your hands. Only way to fight bullshit, is with bullshit. [color="#ff0000"]Geez, you make the situation surrounding my house seem like it's such a piece of shit. The house needed the hard wood restored some paint, and a new water heater to make it livable. A kitchen and bath remodel is extra. Other than that, it was a hell of a deal! But I get your point here.[/color]

[color="#0000ff"]Not what I meant, most of the repos are getting pretty skanky, not to say that is what you have. The fact there is a repo in a neighborhood affects the value of everyone's property. In the end, once the bank dumps it to get it off the books, that lets the value-low bar for the neighborhood. I think a repo that can't pass an inspection for a bank note is the greatest way to buy a property, HUD has a single contract, no lawyer BS, no mystery-papers, just hand them a cert cheque, and they hand you an abstract. Nothing negative intended.[/color]

Make a police report for harassment, they won't take it, but insist on a call-screen number. The coppers will go tell the neighbor you are insane, and trying to make a harassment complaint. Maybe the neighbor will get the hint that it's escalating to a legal level, and cease. Not likely, but you can hope. [color="#ff0000"]What is an "on call screen number"?[/color]
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When a dispatch is made, they have in internal call number assigned to the request for service. When the cops come, they may not accept your complaint, or even do a report on it. The call screen number, and initial request info is archived. Getting that # will prove you did actually try to get them to help you out. Later, if she pulls the same crap, you can greet the coppers with all the proof that she is a habitual complainer. You can also request a record of all the calls for service to your (or her) address. It's public record, and doesn't have a lot of info, but proves dates, initial reported complaint. If it all turns nasty... it will, unless you are really good at putting up with her BS, a paper trail is your best friend. You will need it at some point. It can become the proof you may need if you eventually need to seek civil remedy.
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file a complaint for orders of protection (or whatever they call it there) You may/most likely not get one, doesn't matter in the end. Dropping all your documentation in front of a judge will get the attention of the dumbest neighbor.

Remember, the video camera is your best friend. People get insane when you point one their way. A good fake security camera pointed at a neighbor's front yard can be entertaining.

[color="#000080"]Ok, since you people lack the ability to detect sarcasm...
Below was intended as a mental image of all the fun a person could have if it was all-out-neighbor-harassment.
Good grief[/color], [color="#000080"]if I had said break in, and fill her shower heads with instant coffee crystals, someone would have taken that seriously too. [/color]

enroll her in various racist orgs, preferably with a free snail-mail newsletter. A few sent to work address.
shake the "bill me" subscription cards out of a bunch of pornos, and insane survivalist mags at a news stand. She needs some reading material, don't forget work addy.
A book club, or 5 are always a nice touch.
Open the test box for her phone line, plug in any modular phone, and make a few 900# calls. 911, and act like you are her, being beaten by her husband at 2AM... [color="#ff0000"]Fake 911 calls can get me in a whole lot of trouble. Plus I'd look quite suspicious trying to gain access to the test box for her phone, and she has 3 medium sized dogs that bark. I wouldn't want to be caught on her property.[/color]
(I would say order a pizza for her, but I like pizza, and the only one that gets hosed there is the pizza-dude)
A few dozen fliers posted at the local teenie-boper handouts, advertising a big party at her address are cool (and funny to watch)
A friend with a sexy voice calling at "strange" hours and asking for the husband/wife does wonders

I raced a vintage H hydro at the time, the occasional 2:00 am turnover was rare... but seems to have happened a few times. I love the way the roar of zoomies echos off houses in the early morning-blue fire out the tubes really gets the blood flowing! [color="#ff0000"]I work the night shift myself, so I don't think I'd want someone to cause havoc while I was sleeping, so I try my best to be considerate of those who sleep during regular hours. [/color][color="#000080"]Consideration is granted to those that are considerate. Once the old bat violated that concept, she no longer had the right to expect it in return.
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Questionable, yes, legal? well.... entertaining? definitely good for the soul? Very much so.

If you keep them busy stomping out fires in their lives, they seem to be content leaving you alone. Eventually you can hone the art of annoying her into a fine skill. [color="#ff0000"]T[/color][color="#ff0000"]he last thing I want is to raise hell with the other neighbors. I prefer to mind my own business for the most part. Basically I don't care what goes on in anybody elses yard or what they are doing on their porches, etc. As long as it doesn't ruin my property, they can do what they like.[/color]

[color="#000080"]Exactly my point, Someone wants a neon-purple house, and dance around their front yard, howling at the moon, wearing only fig leaves... at midnight... with goats, It doesn't matter, but once they dump their mental illness into my life, it becomes necessary to put an end to it. In my experience, the legal system is unable, more, unwilling, to stop it. I really do hope you have better luck. From what I have seen, your legal attempts will be met by her escalating her snipe-attacks at you. More than anything else, I hope she keeps her racist crap away from kids (if you have any)-that sort doesn't seem to care about their impact on kids.[/color]

Come to think of it... I may have been "the neighbor from hell" Maybe moving to the sticks was better for all of us. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif[/img] [/quote]

[color="#000000"][color="#000000"]This is just a general observation not directed at anyone here, but:
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I enjoy being close to everything and I'll be damned if I let someone take away my right to live where I want to live in this country. I was born and raised here, and I would have served this country if my vision passed the physical.[/color] Why is it that in 2010, people who were born, raised here and could have/or did served/serve their country [i]still[/i] have to justify their right to live/work anywhere they want? I shouldn't have to go through this.

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Sometimes, I feel like I should get some money together and go live in Curacao, or another one of those islands off the coast of Brazil. I wonder if they ever have to deal with bullshit like this. [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif[/img]
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Move out of the fools, it takes adjusting, but in the end is the single best improvement you can make in your life.[/color] [color="#000080"]You will look back, and wonder just how you ever lived in the city. [/color]

[TheScotsman]

Damn, sorry for that horrible blue, it seemed like a good idea, but it's hard on the eyes.