A Mya Chic Saray Compared To A Km...?

[Relle]

Hey guys, well I want to get the best hookah experience and I am wondering if the Mya Chic Saray can smoke just as good as a KM OG Trimetal.
I see people raving about the KM's, and when I look at reviews everyone's using a KM.
I suppose that's because you guys are at home and not traveling, therefore you use your home hookah, the KM. Am I right?
But yea, looking for the best smoke session i could get, and I could afford a KM OG Trimetal, but if I could spend less, coughmyachicsaraycough and get the same results, then yea..
Oh, as for the mya QT, well, the chic looks sleek!

[Stuie]

I can get just as good smoke from the QT and Chic as good as my KM. The best of smoke starts with the bowl, up.

[Chreees]

I used to have a Mya QT paired with a Tangiers small phunnel bowl and a wide-gauge Nammor washable hose and it put out clouds [i]almost [/i]as big as I get with my current KM. As Stuie hinted, it's got a LOT to do with the accessories (bowl, hose), and not just the hookah...

[bellydancerakn]

Yeah bowls and hoses are sooooo important. I was smoking with my QT with stock MYA bowl and hose and getting almost no flavor, then I finally upgraded to an egyptian and nammor... BAM tons of flavor.

[NitetimeReign]

As the others have stated when you have the right accessories to go with the Chic or QT they will smoke great. I have the QT as well as a KM and most of the time since I just about get the same smoke quality I'll grab my lil QT out of ease of use (not that KMs are hard to use..they are just way bigger..lol) and then bring the KM out on a whim. This has been my experience so far anyway.

[Venger]

I have smoked KM in bars and my QT at home. I can get a better smoke with the QT. A lot has to do with using a phunnel and nammor hose verses the narrow hose and small bowl at the bar.
Ray

[fezmeister]

I've a MYA mini with the standard mod bowl and the MYA wide gauge (it's roughly the thickness if not slightly larger than the KM or Nammor) and it smokes just as nicely as almost another hookah i've smoked. i get storm clouds. even before i got a nice hose i was able to get large clouds. i get larger with the new hose. it's a lot to do with foil pattern, shisha consistencty, packing method, and so on and so forth. almost any hookah can get clouds. it's mostly preference honestly. but the KM's the quality is rarely matched but MYA's are fantastic hookahs.

[Codename067]

[quote name='Stuie' date='12 June 2010 - 12:44 PM' timestamp='1276371874' post='471518']
[b]I can get just as good smoke from the QT and Chic as good as my KM.[/b] The best of smoke starts with the bowl, up.
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I will disagree with you on that.

However, I will almost fully agree with the rest of your statement.

KMs and Mya are built differently..I am sure I don't have to lecture those of you who know about it the differences already. Simply put, the KM is built for performance, and Mya for style. Not that the Mya isn't a good performer, it's just not in the same league as the KM. Rest of this post will go in detail.

Everyone defines "quality" in smoking differently. I know some people that smoke a garbage hookah with garbage packing and thing it's the shit. I most certainly smoked enough hookahs to get to the bottom of which one is the best over all.

Syrian, Egyptian, Chinese [Mya] are among the most popular stems, and it was an easy decision for me to stick with Egyptian hookahs seeing how they dominated both the Syrian and the Mya in performance. Widest down stem, silky smooth purging, easiest pull on the market, the best stock hoses ever, tube bell chamber, and great traditional look. People like to bitch about the weld marks..well you are buying a hand-made product, one that is meant for performance over anything else, shut up, smoke, and you will forget all about the weld marks! Only advantage I see on Mya's over KM is durability. It "should" last longer. Then again, take in consideration that fact that every single KM that I have ever owned is still functional with no problems and no rusting either. My oldest KM is almost 5 years now [the Aqua Zakey] and I STILL smoke it over every single KM that I've bought, until today.

And no, I don't work for KM and I'm not a Mya hater lol, I just simply chose the best and vouch for it because it never let anyone down. A decent number of people have converted to KM after smoking one in my garage lol.

With that said, KM > Mya. All day.

[ih303]

It may possible to get the same QUANTITY of smoke from a Mya, but IMHO you won't the same QUALITY as you do from an Egyptian. Don't hate, yet... just let me explain.

When I see people comparing hookahs, those knowledgeable enough to inspect the diameters of the components generally only check out the down-stem. (I don't know if anyone's noticed lately, but Mya's starting to put some pretty fat down-stems on their premium hookahs - even wider than the new KM's!) The problem is, no one ever checks out Mya's real bottleneck, the hose port. These things still taper down to about the size of a pencil. And then they sell the hookahs with these shit hoses with equally small tips. So at the end of the day, that amazing, fat down-stem is just wasted.

With Egyptians, there's still a bottleneck at the hose port, but it's not as drastic. Thus, it stands to reason that larger diameter "plumbing" would result in an easier draw, i.e. better experience.

The second issue is with the size. Try smoking a modded Mya Petite with phunnel bowl and larger hose-port and hose next to an Egyptian with the same components. There's a noticeable difference. Where, you ask? Smoke temperature. My theory on this follows the logic that larger hookahs force the smoke through a longer distance of heat-dissipating metal and then through a larger quantity of water that manages to sustain a relatively normalized temperature. Is it a huge difference? No. But it is noticeable. It's kind of like loving your 1080i HDTV until you see it right next to a 1080p HDTV.

Ultimately, I prefer Egyptians over Myas in the category of performance. But in the looks department, Myas own.

[joytron]

[quote name='Codename067' date='13 June 2010 - 05:28 PM' timestamp='1276475337' post='471606']
[quote name='Stuie' date='12 June 2010 - 12:44 PM' timestamp='1276371874' post='471518']
[b]I can get just as good smoke from the QT and Chic as good as my KM.[/b] The best of smoke starts with the bowl, up.
[/quote]


I will disagree with you on that.

However, I will almost fully agree with the rest of your statement.

KMs and Mya are built differently..I am sure I don't have to lecture those of you who know about it the differences already. Simply put, the KM is built for performance, and Mya for style. Not that the Mya isn't a good performer, it's just not in the same league as the KM. Rest of this post will go in detail.

Everyone defines "quality" in smoking differently. I know some people that smoke a garbage hookah with garbage packing and thing it's the shit. I most certainly smoked enough hookahs to get to the bottom of which one is the best over all.

Syrian, Egyptian, Chinese [Mya] are among the most popular stems, and it was an easy decision for me to stick with Egyptian hookahs seeing how they dominated both the Syrian and the Mya in performance. Widest down stem, silky smooth purging, easiest pull on the market, the best stock hoses ever, tube bell chamber, and great traditional look. People like to bitch about the weld marks..well you are buying a hand-made product, one that is meant for performance over anything else, shut up, smoke, and you will forget all about the weld marks! Only advantage I see on Mya's over KM is durability. It "should" last longer. Then again, take in consideration that fact that every single KM that I have ever owned is still functional with no problems and no rusting either. My oldest KM is almost 5 years now [the Aqua Zakey] and I STILL smoke it over every single KM that I've bought, until today.

And no, I don't work for KM and I'm not a Mya hater lol, I just simply chose the best and vouch for it because it never let anyone down. A decent number of people have converted to KM after smoking one in my garage lol.

With that said, KM > Mya. All day.
[/quote]

I agree with most of what you say aside from the weld marks. I think its a joke that the largest? hookah manufacturer in Egypt cant build a pipe that doesnt look like it was constructed by a five year old.
[quote name='ih303' date='15 June 2010 - 08:14 AM' timestamp='1276614844' post='471716']
It may possible to get the same QUANTITY of smoke from a Mya, but IMHO you won't the same QUALITY as you do from an Egyptian. Don't hate, yet... just let me explain.

When I see people comparing hookahs, those knowledgeable enough to inspect the diameters of the components generally only check out the down-stem. (I don't know if anyone's noticed lately, but Mya's starting to put some pretty fat down-stems on their premium hookahs - even wider than the new KM's!) The problem is, no one ever checks out Mya's real bottleneck, the hose port. These things still taper down to about the size of a pencil. And then they sell the hookahs with these shit hoses with equally small tips. So at the end of the day, that amazing, fat down-stem is just wasted.

With Egyptians, there's still a bottleneck at the hose port, but it's not as drastic. Thus, it stands to reason that larger diameter "plumbing" would result in an easier draw, i.e. better experience.

The second issue is with the size. Try smoking a modded Mya Petite with phunnel bowl and larger hose-port and hose next to an Egyptian with the same components. There's a noticeable difference. Where, you ask? Smoke temperature. My theory on this follows the logic that larger hookahs force the smoke through a longer distance of heat-dissipating metal and then through a larger quantity of water that manages to sustain a relatively normalized temperature. Is it a huge difference? No. But it is noticeable. It's kind of like loving your 1080i HDTV until you see it right next to a 1080p HDTV.

Ultimately, I prefer Egyptians over Myas in the category of performance. But in the looks department, Myas own.
[/quote]


Are you taking into consideration the length of the hose? I have a bambino and a couple KMs and really cant in any way taste the difference in smoke temperature.

[ih303]

[quote name='joytron' date='15 June 2010 - 06:43 PM' timestamp='1276649003' post='471769']Are you taking into consideration the length of the hose?
[/quote]

The same hose was used for that comparison.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like we're talking hot and cold here but maybe just a few degree difference. It was slight, but noticeable.