Hassouni Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 So I have two really shallow, but very wide bowls that I use a lot..they're almost like small saucers. I would've thought that's better, as all the tobacco gets hit by the heat, unlike, say, my very deep Turkish bowl, where the bottom half is totally uncooked. However, after last night's very disappointing smoke, it strikes me that the shallow bowls really hinder the flavor. Could it be that the hot air needs to travel through a lot of tobacco in order to pick up the flavor, hence deep bowls like my Turkish, a Tangiers, or even a Mya deliver better flavor? Anyone have similar experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksandwich9113 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Kinda. I find my Tanigers Medium smokes a hell of a lot better than any other bowl I have - Modern or otherwise. It is the biggest and deepest bowl out of all of them too. Also - while about 1/3 to 1/2 of the Shisha on the bottom - I regularly find "uncooked or un-vaporized." However, it's quite obvious all the juices have been vaporized and it's almost like soggy tobacco that is no longer swimming in a pool of glycerine and molasses and whatever else is in them. It's like a threw a towel into a pool, and then sucked the water out of the pool. The towel is still wet, but it ain't in a pool anymore. Ya know? That being said - get smaller but deeper bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Oh I have bowls aplenty. Two of those wide shallow ones, at least 3 small Lebanese bowls (deep), a Turkish bowl (big and very deep), A small or maybe medium Tangiers funnel, a Mya, and a HJ mini.... Of them, the Mya and the Turkish are prob the best candidates (without an adapter for the Tang and HJ), but the Mya will only last 45 mins or so, and the Turkish bowl is just so damn deep I've been reluctant to use it consistently because of the half inch of moist tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksandwich9113 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 With a little patience you can pulled out the charred tobacco and reuse the stuff on the bottom - assuming you are either smoking the same flavor or using something else was will mix well. I do it all the time - you just gotta grab some small tongs and it takes about 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 i find that you need to find a balance between shallow and deep... you're going for conduction rather than convection... if a bowl is too shallow the heat passes through and saturates the tobacco quickly, leading to good flavor at first...but, it should teeter off quickly... a bowl too deep should produce better smoke, however you'll be consuming a lot of tobacco...also, the amount of heat needed to vaporize the shisha at the bottom (for a half-cashed bowl) may be insanely high (depending on how well your bowl transfers heat). if you find a bowl somewhere in between, you'll get conduction for the top, bottom, and sides...and eventually heat the entire puck evenly....i have 5 bowls like this, out of my 30 or so bowls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Hass-I never have a problem finishing off my turk bowl with a medium pack and 3 coco's I kinda like the shallow wide bowls also... Also Hass--santino from crown hookah is gonna make me a few male style custom mini phunnels and crown bowls ..Awsome hopefully he'll put them into limited production....just thougth you might like to know since you have a few male style argiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Oh man, I'd love a male Crown bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' date='24 July 2010 - 10:46 AM' timestamp='1279989994' post='476152'] So I have two really shallow, but very wide bowls that I use a lot..they're almost like small saucers. I would've thought that's better, as all the tobacco gets hit by the heat, unlike, say, my very deep Turkish bowl, where the bottom half is totally uncooked. However, after last night's very disappointing smoke, it strikes me that the shallow bowls really hinder the flavor. Could it be that the hot air needs to travel through a lot of tobacco in order to pick up the flavor, hence deep bowls like my Turkish, a Tangiers, or even a Mya deliver better flavor? Anyone have similar experiences? [/quote] Smallest but deepest bowl to me is the Mya, which is always a waste, but super pack em and use good heat management. I don't think shallow hinders flavor, but your not gaining anything by its ultra depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote name='Arcane' date='24 July 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1280029285' post='476200'] i find that you need to find a balance between shallow and deep... you're going for conduction rather than convection... if a bowl is too shallow the heat passes through and saturates the tobacco quickly, leading to good flavor at first...but, it should teeter off quickly... a bowl too deep should produce better smoke, however you'll be consuming a lot of tobacco...also, the amount of heat needed to vaporize the shisha at the bottom (for a half-cashed bowl) may be insanely high (depending on how well your bowl transfers heat). if you find a bowl somewhere in between, you'll get conduction for the top, bottom, and sides...and eventually heat the entire puck evenly....i have 5 bowls like this, out of my 30 or so bowls... [/quote] I have an Egyptian I've never seen anywhere else. Wider and slightly more shallow that a standard Egyptian, but not dramatically so. It gives the best smoke. Challenges phunnels easily. It's that good. If you ever see one like it, grab that puppy. It came with a hookah I bought online a long time ago, and I would dearly love to find a vendor who carries them....... John, you listening out there? 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='Rani' date='27 July 2010 - 01:01 AM' timestamp='1280214076' post='476509'] [quote name='Arcane' date='24 July 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1280029285' post='476200'] i find that you need to find a balance between shallow and deep... you're going for conduction rather than convection... if a bowl is too shallow the heat passes through and saturates the tobacco quickly, leading to good flavor at first...but, it should teeter off quickly... a bowl too deep should produce better smoke, however you'll be consuming a lot of tobacco...also, the amount of heat needed to vaporize the shisha at the bottom (for a half-cashed bowl) may be insanely high (depending on how well your bowl transfers heat). if you find a bowl somewhere in between, you'll get conduction for the top, bottom, and sides...and eventually heat the entire puck evenly....i have 5 bowls like this, out of my 30 or so bowls... [/quote] I have an Egyptian I've never seen anywhere else. Wider and slightly more shallow that a standard Egyptian, but not dramatically so. It gives the best smoke. Challenges phunnels easily. It's that good. If you ever see one like it, grab that puppy. It came with a hookah I bought online a long time ago, and I would dearly love to find a vendor who carries them....... John, you listening out there? 'Rani [/quote] These things big hunky brown things as well? I mean the rest of the bowl, not the shallow top? If so, those seem to come with KM's / AF's..I think I have 4 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='redjako' date='27 July 2010 - 06:55 PM' timestamp='1280282111' post='476701'] [quote name='Rani' date='27 July 2010 - 01:01 AM' timestamp='1280214076' post='476509'] [quote name='Arcane' date='24 July 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1280029285' post='476200'] i find that you need to find a balance between shallow and deep... you're going for conduction rather than convection... if a bowl is too shallow the heat passes through and saturates the tobacco quickly, leading to good flavor at first...but, it should teeter off quickly... a bowl too deep should produce better smoke, however you'll be consuming a lot of tobacco...also, the amount of heat needed to vaporize the shisha at the bottom (for a half-cashed bowl) may be insanely high (depending on how well your bowl transfers heat). if you find a bowl somewhere in between, you'll get conduction for the top, bottom, and sides...and eventually heat the entire puck evenly....i have 5 bowls like this, out of my 30 or so bowls... [/quote] I have an Egyptian I've never seen anywhere else. Wider and slightly more shallow that a standard Egyptian, but not dramatically so. It gives the best smoke. Challenges phunnels easily. It's that good. If you ever see one like it, grab that puppy. It came with a hookah I bought online a long time ago, and I would dearly love to find a vendor who carries them....... John, you listening out there? 'Rani [/quote] These things big hunky brown things as well? I mean the rest of the bowl, not the shallow top? If so, those seem to come with KM's / AF's..I think I have 4 of them. [/quote] Actually it's more elegantly formed than the usual Egyptian. But it is the same type of glaze and color. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I find that mini egyptian bowls smoke the best for me. They're perfect, deep, small but still shallow enough to use all the tobacco. I think egyptian bowls have the best ratio for efficiency and the best heat transfer. I never have wasted tobacco when I done smoking a bowl in my egytians, mini or regular, sized I get the same great results. The phunnel is good but I hate wasting shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonethere Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Personally, I like the shallow bowls better because all of the shisha will get used. When I look under the foil of a spent bowl and I see un used shisha, I always feel like it was a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitetimeReign Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='thatonethere' date='28 July 2010 - 12:55 AM' timestamp='1280292946' post='476726'] Personally, I like the shallow bowls better because all of the shisha will get used. When I look under the foil of a spent bowl and I see un used shisha, I always feel like it was a waste. [/quote] x2 exactly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [url="http://www.hookahcompany.com/syrian_to_egyptian_adapter_771_prd1.htm"]http://www.hookahcompany.com/syrian_to_egyptian_adapter_771_prd1.htm[/url] I myself prefer deeper bowls. Shallow ones just burn up too fast for how long I like to smoke. I have an egyptian head I got with my KM a few years ago and its perfect. I can get some pics when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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