Stavros Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 ok cutting a long story short i came home to find this [img]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/super6231/37774_446498499523_656149523_6295438_6467873_n.jpg[/img] Its a km world cup 33" this is what it used to look like [img]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/super6231/DSCF2830.jpg[/img] now all that i could salvage was the top[img]http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab15/super6231/IMAG0174.jpg[/img]now iv had a look on some different sites on geting a new base but the measurements dont seem to be anything like what my base 4.5cm there all around 2.5 to 3.5cm? or am i not measuring it right. i cant seem to get any help on another forum and just thought u guys might be able to help me all i want is a new base so i dont have tho use my shitty pumpkin hookah . thanks in advance for any of my noobness . cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Hamilton Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) that base is identical to my "elephant" base on my km chiller...(im guessing 1.75" approx) Also there are bases that KM can use but they range in the 2" diameter...it will boil down to how you MOD your grommet fit (tape) regardless of style...HJ should have it (same base like that...but has a green stains) and could ship them to you...you could PM him I guess for details sorry for your loss Edited September 2, 2010 by Josh Hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Hamilton Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 oh crap! even ur phunnel is GONE!!!! thanks for the pics...very dramatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodle Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ugh! It looks like one of those precious mini-phunnels was taken out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 idk looks like an alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 I did email him but the reply wasnt very helpfull supprisingly seeing as every 1 swears by him... and havt had a reply to a second in a week and a half. And i would think id need to make the gromet smaller not bigger? None of the bases that are online seem to be to small the opening not big enough thats my dilemma. And yes i lost a alien phunell in the fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 oh jeez..... that really sucks. are you measurng just the inside of the opening or the whole thing? just checking to make sure, cause that could be the problem if all of them you see online are too small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 any idea how this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 get any large vase and it should suit you fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 The opening iv got the tape mesure on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 You might have had a jumbo base, with a 1 7/8 to 2" opening. These are usually 12" high. I have one on my KM ice, which is tall and it keeps it very steady. When you go base shopping, look for some measurements. Some vendors don't give them which is frustrating. Some use a grommet size to measure the ID of the opening. Yours would probably be 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 I was just about to post about grommet size, how do u work out what size it is? And yeah they usualy say there around 3.7cm my base opening is about 4.5 cm like i said b4 but they say they fit size 30 gasket so mayb it would fit i hate when theres not enough info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 OK 4.5 cm converts to 1.77 inches which is more like a 29 size grommet. You can always use electrical tape and one of the vendors makes a thick band that increases your grommet size. My second guess would be a standard base between 9 to 11 inches tall and with a 1 3/4' opening. That size is fairly standard. remember tto, if buying an Egyptian vase, that its hand made and subject to variation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='mustafabey' timestamp='1283465918' post='481071'] remember tto, if buying an Egyptian vase, that its hand made and subject to variation [/quote] Remember too, if buying an Egyptian vase, that their quality standards SUCK and the damn thing will prob start falling apart (paint peeling, breaking on its own, etc) in moments. I've had THREE dud Egyptian vases, and one lovely Lebanese that lasted me years and years and years until a drunk idiot had his way with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 So smaller the number for the grommet/gasket means its bigger? How do u work it out so o can measure mine properly . Coz im from aus and dont want to order one and then find out its wrong. Its going to cost me enough for a whole new hookah lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I dont much about this grommet thing other than 29 is smaller than 30. I guess theres a scale like wire gauges and I'm rather sure one of the experts here knows the scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 just buy a vase that is 12" high, it should fit fine with a little work. I have two KMs and three vases and all the vases fit on all the pipes. I even had a generic egyptian and one of the vases from the km fit fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1283467371' post='481073'] [quote name='mustafabey' timestamp='1283465918' post='481071'] remember tto, if buying an Egyptian vase, that its hand made and subject to variation [/quote] Remember too, if buying an Egyptian vase, that their quality standards SUCK and the damn thing will prob start falling apart (paint peeling, breaking on its own, etc) in moments. I've had THREE dud Egyptian vases, and one lovely Lebanese that lasted me years and years and years until a drunk idiot had his way with it [/quote] There are times i drool over the Qajar vases on eBay. Cobalt blue glass with a portrait of some 19th cent Qajar Shahenshah. They go between 200-700 bucks, far far above my meager budget, but they are gorgeous. [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ARABIC-ISLAMIC-PERSIAN-QAJAR-HOOKAH-BASE-/110545956055?pt=Asian_Antiques&NHT (Non-Hookah Tobacco)=item19bd0d6cd7"]Qajar vae[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 I might just lashout and buy one hopefully it wont be a expensive mistake, il make sure il try geting a tall one . migut measure my stem and see how long the old base would of been, thabks for the help people and i still wouldent mind to know how to work out the grommet size for future refrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 [quote name='mustafabey' timestamp='1283465918' post='481071'] There are times i drool over the Qajar vases on eBay. Cobalt blue glass with a portrait of some 19th cent Qajar Shahenshah. They go between 200-700 bucks, far far above my meager budget, but they are gorgeous. [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ARABIC-ISLAMIC-PERSIAN-QAJAR-HOOKAH-BASE-/110545956055?pt=Asian_Antiques&NHT%20(Non-Hookah%20Tobacco)=item19bd0d6cd7"]Qajar vae[/url] [/quote] holy crap, do those sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 i had a look around the only basses that will fit to my measurements are the "large bases" from hookah-shisha (http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-1027-egyptian-replacement-hookah-bases.html).. the other still are to small, my stem just fit into my original base and was super tight so the others still wont fit from hj? i still think somethings not right here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 That particular one has been around for months, though cheaper ones sell. I think its more for collectors than actual users, judging from the amount of Qajar glass and Mughal metal vase I see for sale, nothing lower than 2-3 hundred though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafabey Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Try this[url="http://www.hookahjohn.com/Hookah-Bases_c19.htm"]HJ Bases[/url] John has some awesome bases and the best selection of KM bases around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 i worked out whats confuzing me on the hj bases they say 3.7 cm or 1,75" ,,,, 1.75" converts to 4.4 cm which is around what mine is im sure i could modify the gasket to suit the base. but 3.7 dusnt work out to 1.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 [quote name='Stavros' timestamp='1283521105' post='481122'] i worked out whats confuzing me on the hj bases they say 3.7 cm or 1,75" ,,,, 1.75" converts to 4.4 cm which is around what mine is im sure i could modify the gasket to suit the base. but 3.7 dusnt work out to 1.75" [/quote] that'll do it. try emailing him maybe, to check which number is accurate, just to be safe. on a separate note, have you tried finding any bases locally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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