dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I just bought a brand new Nammor Hookah from hookah-shisha.com http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-6058-Azizi-Nammor-Hookah.html I set everything up, as per usual, and cannot get good draws from the hookah. The draws aren't smooth, I take a pull and need to inhale like crazy just to get a hit. I've tried loosening up the hose connector, making it tight, and nothing seems to help. Can it be an issue with the amount of water I'm putting into my base? I've tried various levels of water to no avail. Please help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 You need to have the downstem about one inch submerged into the water. Make sure you poke plenty of holes (poking through all the way to the bottom of the bowl) and then maybe even blow through the stem of the bowl (not necessarily necessary though). Basically you want to make sure air can get through the foil and through those holes in the bowl (I'm assuming you're using the standard bowl that comes with the hookah). Also, since you said you're having minimal amounts of smoke, how much coal are you using, and where are you placing it on the bowl? I suggest one coal, on the edge of the bowl, avoiding the center, and rotate around the bowl every few minutes as you smoke. Or you can use two coals (depends on the size/kind of coals) and have them on opposite sides of the bowl, rotating as you smoke. Hope this helps. Report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 I have the bowl submerged in 1" of water. I always poke lots of holes, and yes I am using the standard clay bowl it came with. I use Three Kings quick light charcoals. I use 1 coal and have it on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='dizz' timestamp='1283679340' post='481296'] I have the [b]bowl[/b] submerged in 1" of water. I always poke lots of holes, and yes I am using the standard clay bowl it came with. I use Three Kings quick light charcoals. I use 1 coal and have it on the edge. [/quote] Whoa I hope you meant downstem... lol. Hm... sounds like you're doing everything right.. Time for a test: Take the bowl off. Put your hand on the stem where the bowl was... completely capping it with your palm. Try to inhale from the hose. Do you get any air? If yes, you have a leak somewhere, which would explain the lack of smoke. If you don't get any air, then it all should be airtight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 You might want to start with 2 3K on the same side of the bowl, touching sides. Also, make sure you're not over packing. Even if you poke holes all the way through if the tobacco shifts after that and the holes close up then they're useless again -- a common issue with too much tobacco. Also, make sure your grommets are sealing properly. Try taking a "base hit" by sucking through the hose port without a hose, that will let you know if it's a hookah issue or a hose issue, it could be blockage in the hose. Try taking the purge valve all the way off and plugging it with your finger so you know it's sealed tightly. Isolate different sections to figure out the problemed area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yea, I meant the downstem. I covered the top part with my hand and tried to inhale and no air was getting through. It seems air tight, I just cannot figure out why the draws aren't smooth and why I have to inhale so hard to get some smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 What happens when you take the hose off the hookah and draw through it? Any problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='Genie' timestamp='1283680396' post='481301'] What happens when you take the hose off the hookah and draw through it? Any problems? [/quote] Do you mean drawing from the hose after I've removed it? Or do you mean drawing from the connector piece with the hose removed? If you mean the latter, I've tried that and it's sort of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Look around the hose port and purge, where the pieces are welded to the heart of the stem... are there any cracks or holes? I had a KM that had a small crack in the weld where the purge is connected to the heart. Had to take some JB Weld and fix it. After I did I got awesome smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1283683049' post='481309'] Look around the hose port and purge, where the pieces are welded to the heart of the stem... are there any cracks or holes? I had a KM that had a small crack in the weld where the purge is connected to the heart. Had to take some JB Weld and fix it. After I did I got awesome smoke. [/quote] There are no cracks or holes. I just noticed a small inward dent at the bottom tip of the downstem. It's not so bad, but can this be the culprit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) [quote name='dizz' timestamp='1283682741' post='481308'] [quote name='Genie' timestamp='1283680396' post='481301'] What happens when you take the hose off the hookah and draw through it? Any problems? [/quote] Do you mean drawing from the hose after I've removed it? Or do you mean drawing from the connector piece with the hose removed? If you mean the latter, I've tried that and it's sort of the same. [/quote] I guess what I mean is if you just have the hose in your hand, attached to nothing, is the pull normal on it? I just wonder if there isn't a bit of plastic or glue or something clogging the hose. I you put a different hose on the hookah, does it act normally? A dent would only affect the draw if it's restricting air flow, so it would have to be one heck of a dent. Edited September 5, 2010 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='Genie' timestamp='1283684019' post='481311'] [quote name='dizz' timestamp='1283682741' post='481308'] [quote name='Genie' timestamp='1283680396' post='481301'] What happens when you take the hose off the hookah and draw through it? Any problems? [/quote] Do you mean drawing from the hose after I've removed it? Or do you mean drawing from the connector piece with the hose removed? If you mean the latter, I've tried that and it's sort of the same. [/quote] I guess what I mean is if you just have the hose in your hand, attached to nothing, is the pull normal on it? I just wonder if there isn't a bit of plastic or glue or something clogging the hose. I you put a different hose on the hookah, does it act normally? A dent would only affect the draw if it's restricting air flow, so it would have to be one heck of a dent. [/quote] So then it's not a big enough dent, because it's not restricting air flow - I don't think. The hose is fine. I even tried another hose, and I'm having the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Ah! Interesting. Glad it's not the hose. I think maybe I didn't understand your original post well. I saw Nammor and assumed you meant a Nammor hose. But you said Nammor HOOKAH. Sorry. What's the diameter on the downstem like? A skinny downstem can pretty much render a hookah useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Have you cleaned the hookah before using it? If the downstem isn't too small, maybe there's just something caught in it? Or somewhere else in the hookah? Reaming everything out with a brush, if you haven't already, might clear things up. I went and looked at the link, the reviews are pretty good so I'm thinking that if it's the downstem, then everybody would have been complaining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='Genie' timestamp='1283684379' post='481315'] Ah! Interesting. Glad it's not the hose. I think maybe I didn't understand your original post well. I saw Nammor and assumed you meant a Nammor hose. But you said Nammor HOOKAH. Sorry. What's the diameter on the downstem like? A skinny downstem can pretty much render a hookah useless. [/quote] It's a Nammor hookah and a Nammor hose. I am not sure on the exact diameter, but it's not that skinny. It looks like any other downstem to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yeah, did you clean the stem really well before using? The Egyptian hookahs often have gunk built up in them when you get them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1283685086' post='481318'] Yeah, did you clean the stem really well before using? The Egyptian hookahs often have gunk built up in them when you get them... [/quote] No, I did not clean the stem. It looked pretty clean to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 By the way, the downstem is connected (and cannot be removed) to the entire hookah (shaft?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='dizz' timestamp='1283687343' post='481320'] By the way, the downstem is connected (and cannot be removed) to the entire hookah (shaft?). [/quote] Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. I can't think of anything else man... How are you packing your bowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizz Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1283688157' post='481321'] [quote name='dizz' timestamp='1283687343' post='481320'] By the way, the downstem is connected (and cannot be removed) to the entire hookah (shaft?). [/quote] Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. I can't think of anything else man... How are you packing your bowls? [/quote] All the way to the tip of the rim but not too tight. I usually break it apart before I place it into the bowl and then just sprinkle it on. I use reynolds aluminum foil (1 square) and I poke medium size holes all around the top of the bowl with a toothpick. I just don't understand what is wrong. ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I have a Nammor Pharoah, and I have never been impressed with the draw on it. The downstems are fairly narrow compared to a Mya of KM, so the draw is a little restricted. There's nothing wrong with your hookah, it's just the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 [quote]All the way to the tip of the rim but not too tight. I usually break it apart before I place it into the bowl and then just sprinkle it on. I use reynolds aluminum foil (1 square) and I poke medium size holes all around the top of the bowl with a toothpick. I just don't understand what is wrong. ;([/quote] You are poking holes just around the edges? Maybe you just need to poke more holes with this hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 this has stumped everyone i guess... what tobacco are you using? maybe it possibly requires more heat to get going real well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 This is probably pointless, but I can't sleep. Do you get plenty of air when you draw, just have to work to get smoke? I'm wondering, have you peeked into the purge valve? Is there a bead in it? If someone forgot to put a bead in there, seems like it would sure make it hard for you to get a good hit of smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 [quote name='IainUM' timestamp='1283748163' post='481383'] this has stumped everyone i guess... what tobacco are you using? maybe it possibly requires more heat to get going real well? [/quote] I noticed my post went completely ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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