Kurashinno Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I started out using a steel grate actually and it seems to burn the shisha a bit more thoroughly and deeply, but I need either more coals or hotter coals to keep it going. I've been using foil for the last few times and after putting on a third coal when the first two burned out, I got this rancid, nasty taste. That has only happened with foil so far, too. Btw I use coco-nara coals. So which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71903DC5 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 [sup]i use both depending on what shisha im smoking but foil for the majority[/sup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greek Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 foil all the way. i have no idea why your getting a rancid taste... what type of shisha and what type of bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodle Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I wonder if anyone makes a grate for use with phunnel bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I'm perfectly fine with either, but foil will fit any bowl, so it gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 i dont like those screens. i think i threw any of them i had out (my KM came with some) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Foil for sure, but those elusive glass screens are supposed to work very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurashinno Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 I'm a little embarrassed to say that I'm not sure what type of hookah or bowl I have XD. I bought it at a local smoke shop, I think it's around 28" tall with a clay bowl? lol I'm really new to hookah but I love it. =D The hookah was $120 if that's any indication of quality. Oh, the paper that came with it says "Premium Hookahs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Price is often a poor indicator! And every product ever made claims to be the premium... The bowl is probably a regular Egyptian clay bowl. That seems to be what most come with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yeah, price is never a good indicator. The crappiest Chinese hookah could be $150... You can get a great quality KM for $100, or a great quality Mya for $50. And also as Epoch said, they all claim to be premium... You gotta know which ones actually are. I'm going to say there's a 99.9% chance that you have a Chinese hookah that you overpaid for, with a regular mod bowl. Those screens typically fit those mods and the clay Egyptian bowls as well, but chances are you got a mod. Idk, post up a pic of your rig and we can ID it for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1289096593' post='487488'] Foil for sure, but those elusive glass screens are supposed to work very well [/quote] They do work alright. I still prefer foil by far, but the glass screens do a great job at evenly heating the bowl. However, they put coconut cubes out like no other. You have to flip MUCH more often than with foil. Even less air hitting that bottom side. But on topic, foil. The screens are terrible, and the holes are way too big to control heat well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1289106136' post='487507'] Yeah, price is never a good indicator. The crappiest Chinese hookah could be $150... You can get a great quality KM for $100, or a great quality Mya for $50. And also as Epoch said, they all claim to be premium... You gotta know which ones actually are. I'm going to say there's a 99.9% chance that you have a Chinese hookah that you overpaid for, with a regular mod bowl. Those screens typically fit those mods and the clay Egyptian bowls as well, but chances are you got a mod. Idk, post up a pic of your rig and we can ID it for you... [/quote] lol i got my KM for 60ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 [quote name='IainUM' timestamp='1289110666' post='487517'] [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1289106136' post='487507'] Yeah, price is never a good indicator. The crappiest Chinese hookah could be $150... You can get a great quality KM for $100, or a great quality Mya for $50. And also as Epoch said, they all claim to be premium... You gotta know which ones actually are. I'm going to say there's a 99.9% chance that you have a Chinese hookah that you overpaid for, with a regular mod bowl. Those screens typically fit those mods and the clay Egyptian bowls as well, but chances are you got a mod. Idk, post up a pic of your rig and we can ID it for you... [/quote] I got my km ice for 99 two years ago. As for the metal screen I used it once when i bought a modbowl with that attachment cover and screen combo and took of the screen and used foil.Foil all the way . lol i got my KM for 60ish [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurashinno Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thanks for all the info everyone. =D I must say, you're probably right about my over paying for a chinese knock-off. As soon as I can I'll post a pic of my hookah. So I noticed "KM" was mentioned quite a bit. Is this an acronym for a brand? Also, what are some good brands other than and including that one? Oh yeah and what's a phunnel bowl? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 [quote name='Kurashinno' timestamp='1289178633' post='487579'] Thanks for all the info everyone. =D I must say, you're probably right about my over paying for a chinese knock-off. As soon as I can I'll post a pic of my hookah. So I noticed "KM" was mentioned quite a bit. Is this an acronym for a brand? Also, what are some good brands other than and including that one? Oh yeah and what's a phunnel bowl? Lol [/quote] KM is an acronym for Khalil Maamoun. an egyptian hookah brand that is highly regarded here. MYA is another good brand that you will hear a lot of here. al-nawras and nour are other good brands for syrian pipes. Temsaah is another pretty good bet for egyptian pipes. there are plenty of other good pipes out there, but generally, when you buy one of the above mentioned brands, you can say with a high degree of certainty that you're getting a high-quality pipe. a phunnel bowl is a type of head that utilize a different system for 'cooking' your tobacco. they use one, large, central hole which is unobstructed resulting in much better airflow than in most other types of bowls 'mod' and standard egyptian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrum055 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 [quote name='noodle' timestamp='1289088632' post='487479'] I wonder if anyone makes a grate for use with phunnel bowls. [/quote] If they don't I will make one...and hang it up on my wall .. No I have a few grates but I saw in an earlier post about heat management and yup to much heat, I get this burnt on crust under the grate and a fresh unburnt shisha at the bottom I don't get to enjoy...But when I use foil I seem to get a nice heat and no problem with burning ...that is if the foil is on right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i would say foil is they best thing you can use on Egyptian or phunnel, cheap...easy clean-up and good heat mgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeDave Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Foil. Screens don't have the ability to fit the phunnel bowels, however the main reason being most screens (not all, but most) have airhoels the size of pencils. Way to much ash in the shisha, and it burns to quicly. FOIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurashinno Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 So I finally uploaded a pic of my hookah. Let me know if I got ripped off! =D [img]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac95/pathscience/IMG_0342.jpg[/img] [img]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac95/pathscience/IMG_0341.jpg[/img] [img]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac95/pathscience/IMG_0340.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Crafted Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 It looks to me like a general Chinese hookah. The base is beautiful though! What kind of coals are you using? (I'm sorry if that has been asked before) And what types of sheisha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 i'd have to look at it up close to be certain, still having trouble ID-ing hookahs through pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurashinno Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 I started using al fakher shisha because it was really cheap at the local smoke shop. I have recently switched to fumari and so far it's amazing for the most part. I also recently switched coals. I've discovered coco-nara and they are fantastic. So, on a side note, why would a khalil mamoon smoke any better or different than a chinese one? I'm probably displaying my ignorance immensely with the following questions: isn't it just shisha, foil, coal; filtering in water; then out the hoses? Are the nicer ones more durable or have different filtering/cleaning mechanisms? Are the interiors coated with some substance to make the smoke smoother etc etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agunn1231 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 some cheaper hookahs are very poorly manufactured and will rust and fall apart. some are put together well though. However, with Khalil Mamoon, and MYA, and a few others, they have a consistant track record for lasting longer, and being put together better. Many chinese hookahs have a history of not lasting more than a year if you're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 [quote name='agunn1231' timestamp='1289688883' post='488224'] some cheaper hookahs are very poorly manufactured and will rust and fall apart. some are put together well though. However, with Khalil Mamoon, and MYA, and a few others, they have a consistant track record for lasting longer, and being put together better. Many chinese hookahs have a history of not lasting more than a year if you're lucky. [/quote] This is accurate, but also the materials its made out of will not ghost as much and can last longer. Bronze can be scrubbed clean a lot longer than plastic. Also the inner stem diameter is larger on KM than most Chinese hookahs, which will greatly improve the smoothness of your pull. When I look at a hookah I usually look at the inner stem diameter, hose and purge port diameters, weight, and welding quality. I'll base my decision on those whether or not its a Chinese or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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