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Ive been smoking hookah probably not as long as around 90% of the peeps here (about.... 2 years?) ANYWAYS! Ive been having trouble getting an easy draw from the Tangiers I just bought.
Setup.
Tangiers Medium Phunnel.
Tangiers Lucid Horchata
Coco Nara coals (2.5 of them)
Temsah 32" Brass Hookah
Narbish Hose
Stock Vase

Using a regular egyptian yields an easy draw but for some reason, using my Tangiers phunnel bowl makes the draw a lot harder. Almost like i am breathing my last breaths to get very minimal smoke, so i was wondering what i am doing wrong. I pack the tangiers decently tight (like how it comes in the packaging, as instructed by the sheet of paper wrapped around the tangiers) and have a decent amount of holes, what i would normally poke for any other shisha. However all of this still gives me a difficult time getting an easy draw.... I havent smoked anything else in the Phunnel bowl since i juuuust bought it and it does not seem to be defective (I used a small phunnel before but it broke hence the replacement). I also havent tried smoking any other brands of shisha in the bowl, though I should to test, but just dont have any at the moment.

Any ideas?
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another option, which i do sometimes, is you can poke a few holes around the center to keep it from getting sucked, but normally if you put enough tobacco in it, that shouldnt be a problem
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[quote name='Legendarymugen' timestamp='1291885934' post='490734']
yah samurai champloo haha
I wrapped it decently tight and added a few holes in them middle... maybe i just didnt enough shisha. I packed like a little more than 2/3.
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Yeah, definitely need more tobacco.
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You sure its a Tangiers phunnel? I've never had problems with the foil getting sucked down on the middle part except on the knockoffs. But it sounds like you need to pack the bowl to the rim.
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i always pack the tobacco over the top of the bowl and use my oyster fork to kinda push down a little. then i add foil
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[quote name='ryno' timestamp='1291900393' post='490747']
You sure its a Tangiers phunnel? I've never had problems with the foil getting sucked down on the middle part except on the knockoffs.
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Nah, it happens with Tangiers bowls too. There's only a few millimeters difference between the height of the "spire" and the rim of the bowl. Sure you can over-pack to raise it up higher but you still may have problems with air flow especially if the tobacco is super juicy.



A couple of things. First, you don't need to pack Lucid tight at all. I know what it says on the packaging, but I pack mine like I pack anything else (excluding Noir) and never have any problems. Just pack it loose but consistent, i.e. no big voids where there's no tobacco. Foil your bowl and poke a ring of holes around the rim and another concentric ring about 1/4" in from that. Then get ahold of some sort of thin metal rod (I use the skewer off a pair of Mya tongs but I've also chopped up cheap metal shish kabob skewers and they work just as well). Feed your skewer through one of your holes near the rim of your bowl so it's just under the foil, pass it over the center spire, then push it through the foil on the other end. Voila! Effortless pull.

Try it and get back with how it worked. :)
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[quote name='ih303' timestamp='1291929414' post='490789']
[quote name='ryno' timestamp='1291900393' post='490747']
You sure its a Tangiers phunnel? I've never had problems with the foil getting sucked down on the middle part except on the knockoffs.
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Nah, it happens with Tangiers bowls too. There's only a few millimeters difference between the height of the "spire" and the rim of the bowl. Sure you can over-pack to raise it up higher but you still may have problems with air flow especially if the tobacco is super juicy.

Try it and get back with how it worked. :)
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I must get lucky with my phunnels then, Ive never had any that would get stuck or could get close to
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pack it to the brim...if you don't want to use that much shisha, make a tealight mod which will also help prevent the hole being cover with foil issue....I'm sure the how to on tealight mod is around the forum somewhere, I just tried searching for it but failed
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I usually poke one hole in the center of the spire. it helps the draw and doesn't effect any smoke of flavor performance. also make sure ur coals are on the edges of the bowl. I notice if you're foil isn't super tight it can still work as long as the coals are resting more on the edge of the bowl than the foil, this way the coals don't push the foil down in the center. When I take a draw the foil actually pushes itself up from the pull of the air down the spire. kinda cool to watch lol.
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[quote name='ryno' timestamp='1291947756' post='490815']
[quote name='ih303' timestamp='1291929414' post='490789']
[quote name='ryno' timestamp='1291900393' post='490747']
You sure its a Tangiers phunnel? I've never had problems with the foil getting sucked down on the middle part except on the knockoffs.
[/quote]

Nah, it happens with Tangiers bowls too. There's only a few millimeters difference between the height of the "spire" and the rim of the bowl. Sure you can over-pack to raise it up higher but you still may have problems with air flow especially if the tobacco is super juicy.

Try it and get back with how it worked. :)
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I must get lucky with my phunnels then, Ive never had any that would get stuck or could get close to
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you and me both, cause the only time i had a problem with foil getting sucked in was with the terrible gigantic havannah phunnel i bought while i was still ignorant
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