ih303 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Heya gang. Pardone moi if this has been answered somewhere else on the forum that I have been unable to find, but I must ask: Does anyone know where to buy convoluted hose (in bulk) on the internet? Just a bit of info... Underneath the rubbery fabric and thread wrapping on a premium washable hose (i.e. Razan, Nammor, etc.), there's a rubber hose. From what I can tell, the style of hose used in these cases is referred to as "convoluted" hose based on it's spiral-like framework. So far, the closest thing I have found to what I'm looking for can be found [url="http://www.texloc.com/convo-tex.html"]here[/url]. I'm still not sure, though. If anyone has any idea who manufacturers/distributes the brightly colored, opaque tubing used in washable hoses, please point me in the right direction. I'd greatly appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 SHA SHA SHA SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [url="http://www.freelin-wade.com/coiled-tubing-hoses.html"]My Linky Winky[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz1337 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Making your own hoses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Looks like someone has something up their sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 i like where this is going..some of those tubes on Travis link look like the right stuff....they dont carry that kind of stuff at a home depot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 the problem with convoluted hosing is that its generally spliced for cords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='ih303' timestamp='1292865728' post='491870'] Heya gang. [b]Pardone moi[/b] if this has been answered somewhere else on the forum that I have been unable to find, but I must ask: Does anyone know where to buy convoluted hose (in bulk) on the internet? Just a bit of info... Underneath the rubbery fabric and thread wrapping on a premium washable hose (i.e. Razan, Nammor, etc.), there's a rubber hose. From what I can tell, the style of hose used in these cases is referred to as "convoluted" hose based on it's spiral-like framework. So far, the closest thing I have found to what I'm looking for can be found [url="http://www.texloc.com/convo-tex.html"]here[/url]. I'm still not sure, though. If anyone has any idea who manufacturers/distributes the brightly colored, opaque tubing used in washable hoses, please point me in the right direction. I'd greatly appreciate it. [/quote] it's pardonnez-moi. just for future reference. also, this looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 cool, Hey also check out flexiline anti-microbial food and bevarage tubing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Chaz1337' timestamp='1292868879' post='491883'] Making your own hoses? [/quote] Yes, but they're for lounge use only for the time being. I have a really difficult time getting things from prototype to production. [quote name='king_lunchb0x' timestamp='1292918852' post='491929'] i like where this is going..some of those tubes on Travis link look like the right stuff....they dont carry that kind of stuff at a home depot? [/quote] Well, the good lord has not seen it fit in his grande design to bless his people in Rapid City with a sacred Home Depot yet, but we do have a lowes. It's kind of like HD's retarded cousin. Oh, and they don't have what I'm looking for. [quote name='joytron' timestamp='1292920871' post='491934'] the problem with convoluted hosing is that its generally spliced for cords. [/quote] YES! Fortunately the tubing I'm looking for is made from a very different material than most wire loom. Not aimed at you, Joy, but to any of you who don't understand the difference between "convoluted" and "corrugated" tubing, check it: [u]Convoluted[/u] [img]http://products.mmnewman.com/ImgMedium/a1009.jpg[/img] [u]Corrugated [img]http://products.mmnewman.com/ImgMedium/a1010.jpg[/img] [/u] [quote name='antouwan' timestamp='1292924353' post='491940'] it's pardonnez-moi. [/quote] Noted [quote name='twoapplesplease' timestamp='1292937016' post='491951'] cool, Hey also check out flexiline anti-microbial food and bevarage tubing [/quote] Can you send me a link to what you're talking about? [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1292918510' post='491928'] Looks like someone has something up their sleeve. [/quote] In deed... but I'm not sure the best way to go about it. [color="#ff0000"][b]Problem:[/b] [/color]All washable hoses on the market today are poorly designed, poorly outfitted, and poorly manufactured. [color="#2e8b57"][b]Solution:[/b] [/color]Design a washable hose from the ground up with a focus on smokability, durability, modularity, customability, and functionality. I have accomplished this and more on a budget of ~ $13 with materials purchased locally, at retail price. But here's my problem. I can't bring something to the market that I've put together from readily accessible bits and pieces (even though that's what gives my hose a huge advantage over the competition). So could I sell it as a kit? Maybe not sell it at all but just put it out there as "open source". IDK... I'm not all about the money but it'd be nice to eventually have an idea pay off. (BTW, I'd like to post pics but I'm hesitant until I figure out how I want to take this thing forward) Still, all the hoses I've made so far I've made using the tubing from broken-down Razans, Nammors, and Grands. If I can find that exact tubing in bulk, I'll be golden. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think I figured it out. I'm going to make it open-source. Hopefully this week I'm going to add a page to my lounge's website including a parts list and assembly instructions for my hose. I'll try to remember to take some pictures tonight to give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about. But here's a couple of selling points. I built this hose because I'm tired of throwing my money away on washable hoses that have a total lounge-lifespan of maybe two months. I'm tired of repairing hoses that look like they were put together by someone's fourth-grade class (packing tape and hot glue do not work well with something labeled "WASHABLE"). I'm tired of tossing out an entire hose because one thing comes apart on it that would require more work to fix than the hose is worth (i.e. the wrap string getting burned through). Because of these things and more, I decided to take a new approach and make my own hose. The hose is simple and durable - There are only a handful of parts matched to fit perfectly together. No glue, no tape, no string - nothing that could break or come undone. The hose is modular and customizable - If something needs to be replaced on my hose, it's possible to replace ONLY that part. In addition, there are many options readily available for customization including color, material, dimensions, etc. The hose is ridiculously functional and smokable - You'll understand when I post some pics. People, I really don't want to come off egotistical about this, but I am very proud of it. Beta testing at the lounge has yielded extremely positive results with the exception of a few people who don't really care for the hose's looks. But to each their own. Keep in mind I'm no engineer. I'm just a guy who sees problems and tries to discover the solution in the simplest way possible. We'll see what you guys think of it when I post pics. Go easy on me, mkay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 i am very interested in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyk Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 so when u say open source does that mean u are selling the hose put together or in a kit where the consumer puts it together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Eagerly awaiting pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 When I opened the link I thought holy shit, Wade (Cotsi) has a website! Then I realized it wasn't in Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='jeremyk' timestamp='1292951532' post='491962'] so when u say open source does that mean u are selling the hose put together or in a kit where the consumer puts it together [/quote] I'm thinking of having three options: 1) Complete hose customized to taste, 2) Kit with all the parts and instructions for assembly, and 3) Parts list for folks to buy themselves and instructions for assembly. I'm limited to option three only until I can find a good source for tubing. But this is still cool since it can be obtained from an existing washable hose. That way everyone with a broken or bunk washable can salvage it and turn it into a new, better hose. Call it hose recycling. Keep in mind that, like the hookah I built, I designed this hose to be used in a lounge where gear is used much harder than at home. For example, we've lost quite a few hoses to coals falling off hookahs and burning through the hose. Don't ask me how this happens because I don't know. All I know is it's the quickest way to send a hose to the graveyard. I had to figure out a simple, inexpensive way to prevent this from happening. So... One of the options of my design is a washable hose cover that's made from cotton and does not melt like that rubbery, synthetic stuff they use to wrap the hoses or the velvet covers you can buy online. The ones I ended up making are black with a gray pattern held in place by a small zip-tie run through a buttonhole sewed in the hem. The cover protects the hose as well as hides any repairs made to the hose, while the dark pattern and bunching caused by the length of the cover hides dirt/ash (unlike the colored fabric of nammors and the white stripe on some pom-poms). Why zip-ties you ask? Because 1) Their cheap and easy to replace, 2) They give the cover a nice, crisp edge at the end while staying hidden themselves, and 3) They can be put on tight enough to keep the cover from sliding either on its own or from someone messing with it - something elastic cannot tdo. When the cover needs to be washed, the ties are simply snipped and the cover removed. (Of course the cover is optional and can be personalized with any color/pattern fabric.) Every element of the design of this hose is based on either solving a problem or improving a feature found in typical washable hoses. Like I mentioned, I love the things. When I smoke at the lounge, I won't use anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 build sounds pretty durable cant wait to see pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Still confused on the convoluted/corrugated, hard to tell in the picture, but is the only difference the slanted coils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 ih303, this is how I feel about your house project... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LbvFckptY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 [quote name='joytron' timestamp='1292980450' post='492007'] Still confused on the convoluted/corrugated, hard to tell in the picture, but is the only difference the slanted coils? [/quote] The slant you see on the convoluted pic is actually a structural coil. Corrugations, on the other hand, are a series of parallel channels in the hose that are not connected. By the way... I apologize for not getting pics up last night. We got real busy at the lounge and I didn't get a chance. I did bring a hose home, though, so I can take pics and put them up during my lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Pictures! [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1287617536/gallery_13155_369_22989.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1287617536/gallery_13155_369_18412.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1287617536/gallery_13155_369_3836.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1287617536/gallery_13155_369_199.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp44 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 very nice! I love the design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Nice, I really dig it! Got more pics of the hose port end? I'm assuming the end pictured is the mouthpiece end... But I really like the design. Nice, simple, and the black cloth on it really looks nice I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 very nice..looks simple and durable! what sizes do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 i like the look. i am just curious to see the hose port end, like chris. i am seriously interested in getting/making one or whatever you end up doing with this project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I love it except the mouthpiece! Will it be able to fit Nammor/Narbish mouthpieces somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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