thehelios Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 So I've bought my second "small" Tangier's Phunnel bowl from a highly regarded vendor on the forum within 2 years. The first "small" I bought from him was actually a medium phunnel but couldn't do an exchange because it was already used. So just last night I bought a second "small" phunnel from him. He only had 2 small phunnels on display and both seemed a bit big in my opinion but he assured me that this time they were small and not medium. So I go buy it, smoke it at a friends house, and get back home and sleep. I wake up this morning remembering that my younger brother just bought a small phunnel from the same vendor so I compare the two. So lo and behold, his is of course much smaller than mine. I filled both phunnels up with water and dumped them in a cup to compare the volume and of course, mine holds double the water. So either three things are happening here: either the vendor sold my brother a knock-off small phunnel, the small phunnels truly differ from one to another because they're "hand-made", or the vendor has sold me yet another medium phunnel. Trust me, I'm just a little pissed right now. Is it that freaking hard to get a "small" phunnel that holds less than 40g of tobacco!?>!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelios Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Mod, please remove this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud9 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294351285' post='493587'] Mod, please remove this thread. [/quote] Why? I'm interested to know what the dimensions are myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 sounds like the vendor is dicking you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelios Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) I want to remove my rant but knowledge on the dimensions would be nice to know. If I could be allowed to edit my original post, that'd be great. I did find out that he purchased the chinese small Phunnel but still bewildered that a "small" Tangier's Phunnel hold 40+ grams of tobacco when fluffed up as much as possible. I guess I really need to either find a micro Phunnel (HA! Like that's going to happen) or just drop the cash for an Alien bowl. Edited January 6, 2011 by thehelios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahl071 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 You can get a micro from Crown right now... they're pretty reasonable. Jorlyfish and I have them, and IncuRATM is chomping at the bit for his. They're tiny... I'd recommend them certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294352034' post='493592'] I want to remove my rant but knowledge on the dimensions would be nice to know. If I could be allowed to edit my original post, that'd be great. I did find out that he purchased the chinese small Phunnel but still bewildered that a "small" Tangier's Phunnel hold 40+ grams of tobacco when fluffed up as much as possible. I guess I really need to either find a micro Phunnel (HA! Like that's going to happen) or just drop the cash for an Alien bowl. [/quote] yeah I dont think most smalls would hold that and certainly not any of mine. Tangiers packed tightly is around 50 grams and other shishas packed fairly loose are close to 35. The water technique does not really work because the spire is sometimes higher or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'd avoid the Alien.... not a bowl that smokes well IMO. I'm about to order a Micro Crown when I get my next paycheck and will let you know how it goes. In the meantime, use a tealight mod for your current phunnel bowl. Refer to the link in my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodle Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1294357302' post='493608'] I'd avoid the Alien.... not a bowl that smokes well IMO. I'm about to order a Micro Crown when I get my next paycheck and will let you know how it goes. In the meantime, use a tealight mod for your current phunnel bowl. Refer to the link in my sig. [/quote] Do you have the newly-revised Alien? I seem to recall somewhere else on this board that HookahJohn recently addressed that problem of not smoking well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294350799' post='493584'] So either three things are happening here: either the vendor sold my brother a knock-off small phunnel, [b][i][u]the small phunnels truly differ from one to another because they're "hand-made",[/u][/i][/b] or the vendor has sold me yet another medium phunnel. Is it that freaking hard to get a "small" phunnel that holds less than 40g of tobacco!?>!? [/quote] The legitimate Tangiers phunnels are handmade and vary in size between each bowl. Also, there is an even bigger size variation depending on the time they were released. I have 2 small phunnels from Feb 2009. One holds 35g to 40g and the other near 50g. My next small phunnel was purchased about April-May and holds about 60g. Fast forward a year and enter the Tangiers Grip Phunnels. These bowls have a smaller diameter but increased depth. My bowls' capacities range from 30g to 50g. And as for your last question, the answer would be yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294352034' post='493592'] I want to remove my rant but knowledge on the dimensions would be nice to know. If I could be allowed to edit my original post, that'd be great. I did find out that he purchased the chinese small Phunnel but still bewildered that a "small" Tangier's Phunnel hold 40+ grams of tobacco when fluffed up as much as possible. I guess I really need to either find a micro Phunnel (HA! Like that's going to happen) or just drop the cash for an Alien bowl. [/quote] If you're really fluffing up the tobacco as much as possible, you can "pack" a bowl with 10-15g. It's going to smoke like shit, but it's less than 40g, right? Edited January 6, 2011 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1294357302' post='493608'] I'd avoid the Alien.... not a bowl that smokes well IMO. I'm about to order a Micro Crown when I get my next paycheck and will let you know how it goes. In the meantime, use a tealight mod for your current phunnel bowl. Refer to the link in my sig. [/quote] shhhhh chris, the aliens smoke fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelios Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1294358278' post='493614'] [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294352034' post='493592'] I want to remove my rant but knowledge on the dimensions would be nice to know. If I could be allowed to edit my original post, that'd be great. I did find out that he purchased the chinese small Phunnel but still bewildered that a "small" Tangier's Phunnel hold 40+ grams of tobacco when fluffed up as much as possible. I guess I really need to either find a micro Phunnel (HA! Like that's going to happen) or just drop the cash for an Alien bowl. [/quote] If you're really fluffing up the tobacco as much as possible, you can "pack" a bowl with 10-15g. It's going to smoke like shit, but it's less than 40g, right? [/quote] That's the problem, it holds way more than 15g fluffed as possible. My friend wanted me to pack the 50g of Fantasia he had and after fluffing up as much as possible AND having a tiny amount of space between the shisha and the rim, I only had less than 10g left. My friend asked me why I didn't just use the rest and I wondered that myself. I think the denial that having another "small" phunnel holding more than 40g of shisha was something I was not willing to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='IainUM' timestamp='1294358915' post='493616'] [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1294357302' post='493608'] I'd avoid the Alien.... not a bowl that smokes well IMO. I'm about to order a Micro Crown when I get my next paycheck and will let you know how it goes. In the meantime, use a tealight mod for your current phunnel bowl. Refer to the link in my sig. [/quote] shhhhh chris, the aliens smoke fine [/quote] Agreed. I'd go with the Alien. I understand Chris' hesitation, but he got the first batch, and since then the bowl's been redesigned and improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Iain, Dizz, why don't one of you send me yours... maybe I'll change my mind. Honestly, I gave it a shot, I didn't like it, so now I'm going to try a Crown Micro... People with the newer Aliens have told me they still don't smoke as well as a Tangiers phunnel. I'm all about finding that perfect balance between using the least amount of tobacco as possible and smoking well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzbizz Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Crown Micro is definitely on my list of things to get. I also want to get the classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 i recently purchased a new tang small phunnel and new alien... My tang bowl looks like it holds alot dunno if its 50g but at least 35g of tang...I do like the new alien BUT...its a big butt, i have been smoking new deeper alien and it works super good with nak/AF/Tang lucid...but with tang noir it just kills me... I was having a bit trouble with both bowls at first but i wasnt packing enough in the tang phunnel...so i figured i would over pack my alien too...im mean over packed as hell(not as much that fits in a tang small but still alot). ANd that thing was super harsh even being super packed...Honestly if could go back in time o would order a micro phunnel from crown instead of a alien...but honestly everybody is looking for something different.. You cant really know what is best until you tried them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I have a first gen alien and a later gen...I prefer my first gen and have a harder time smoking the later one(so I just let Beiber use it all the time ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='thehelios' timestamp='1294352034' post='493592'] I want to remove my rant but knowledge on the dimensions would be nice to know. If I could be allowed to edit my original post, that'd be great. I did find out that he purchased the chinese small Phunnel but still bewildered that a "small" Tangier's Phunnel hold 40+ grams of tobacco when fluffed up as much as possible. I guess I really need to either find a micro Phunnel (HA! Like that's going to happen) or just drop the cash for an Alien bowl. [/quote] PM either myself or another mod with a revised version of your first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Am I the only person that thinks maybe the bowls are so damn big so you use up more of the tobacco and therefore have to buy it more frequently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1294415139' post='493702'] Am I the only person that thinks maybe the bowls are so damn big so you use up more of the tobacco and therefore have to buy it more frequently? [/quote] Yeah, thats just a conspiracy. The only way I would buy that is if the man designed the bowl specifically for a type of shisha he manufactures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [img]http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz3/cuttingaway/SDC17768.jpg[/img] I think I have 5 or 6 smalls now. All of them are different in size. The black one is the smallest I own, and the green is the largest. Its not as big as a medium, but its getting there. Not that wide, but super deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1294415139' post='493702'] Am I the only person that thinks maybe the bowls are so damn big so you use up more of the tobacco and therefore have to buy it more frequently? [/quote] Possibly, and the uninformed. Tangiers actually offers more smoke time per gram of tobacco (when used with the tangiers phunnel bowl). Eric has stated you can re-light a bowl, so nothing is essentially wasted. The fact that some people are opposed to relighting or would rather pack a fresh bowl is entirely separate of the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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