Ever heard of "Orient Tobacco"???

[Naqsh]

Hi folks,

there's a new shisha tobacco available which is called "Orient
Tobacco"! Avaialble in Bahreini Apple- and Mint flavour. Orient Tobacco
is currently being distributed throughout Europe. Dependent on their
success, other countries will be included as well. Have a look at:
www.orient-tobacco.de

regards
Naqsh

[Klownshoe]

I'm interested but I'm not going to order unless you can come up with a payment system that doesn't involve me giving you my bank details directly.

[MrGuy]

Yay for europe! does anyone know any other shisha distribution sites for europe (apart from that really expensive UK one where its summit like £32 for a 250g tub of AF.)
What's orient tobacco like? who's gunna be the first to buy some? give it a few days and i bet hookahnoob will have his hands on all available flavour

[Sonthert]

Great ANOTHER vendor who doesn't participate other than to say...buy my stuff.

[thepyrofish]

I'm sorry, but with the anti-internet-scam stuff I've been involved in, any site that wants banking info to pay for a product screams "I want to anal-rape you" at the top of it's lungs.  I say avoid like the plague. 

[Hookahnoob]

Searously.

Can I make a new profile to try to sell some parts for my Bronco? Or sell my hookah theimed (sp) Electronic Dartboard?

If you want to sell your stuff then PLEASE participate in the forum first.

[methodical13]

I've got some hubcapps for a '79 El Camino I wanna get rid of....anyone interested?

[MrGuy]

I think the mods need to sticky a thread at the top of this forum, or add to the rules thread with detailed guidelines regarding advertising (e.g. u can only advertise your stuff if u have 100+ posts or you're called tangiers or all of the above.)

[Sonthert]

I do not advertise my stuff!www.tangiers.usEver! I have never been...So, hubcaps. eh? Girlfriend gettin' a little lonely??The thread was pronounced dead at 9:01 pm, EDT.

[Macho555]

Heh, there no possible way I'd ever just give out the bank info he
wants. I mean, I've been screwed using Paypal a few times, the stuff he
wants just eliminate that pesky middleman for taking money.

[MrGuy]

oooh i never knew you had a website tangiers! kudos on not posting it all over the forums until now.
But you really need to get a designer on that cofmecof.

[Naqsh]

since most of the posts I've read in this thread refer to their
reservation against payment procedures, let me take the chance to
clarify some issues. In Germany paying via debit advice, meaning that
the money will be withdrawn from your bank account is generally the
safest way of online payment, as the customer has the possibility to
withdraw the money transfer wihtin 2-3 weeks of time. Debit advance or
payment via credit card alway involves a cerfified payment provider
between the customer, vendor and the bank. Most of the customers in
Germany pay via debit advice. The other possibility of paying is that
the customer transfers an amount of money from his bank to the bank of
the vendor. For this kind of payment no bank account details are
revealed to the vendor. this is also a very popular way of handling
online transactions.

As for myself, I have been smoking Hookah for 10+ years now, and tried
about everything which is avaialble on the market (e.g. Al-Fakher,
Serbetli, Hayyam, Nakhla, Al-Ouns, Al-Waha, Al-Layalina, and so on...).
However, all those tobaccos have one problem...: they really have
little to do with waterpipe smoking. Why?

1. Most of the waterpipe tobacco manufacturers use low-quality tobacco,
who import their tobacco from Far East. This is also obvious when
considering the quantitiy of the very tough ribs of the tobacco leaf in
some products.
2. applied flavours of the mentioned tobaccos are very artificial and
have a lack on flavour authencity. Examples are that apple, peach mint
or grape actually don't taste like they should. Some manufacturers tend
to use flavours which might be suitable for food flavouring, but not
for tobacco.
3. the concentration on flavours is in many cases so high, that you can taste anything, but the tobacco blend.
4. most of the tobaccos include 20-40% moisturising components, which
acutually is also responsible for the degree of smoke development.
Moisturising components can be considered as the hookah tobacco
"make-up". They make your hookah tobacco taste sweeter and smoother,
while extremely increasing the smoke development. Leave them away, and
you'll find out the truth about the tobacco- and flavour quality.

P.S.: the contents of some of the posts here are not very professional.
Sorry, but I'm more interested in a serious discussions than idle talk.


Naqsh

"You posess only which cannot be lost in a shipwreck"   

[MrGuy]

**pokemon style** goooo TANGIERS! 
This should be interesting. Tangiers, whats your response to Mr Naqsh's claim regarding other brands of tobacco?
Naqsh, it's also very good to see you:A. defend your websiteB. give a good and (to me) valid reason with the things people have pointed out.Well done.

[thepyrofish]

Ok, as a foreigner living in the US temporarily let me give you some advice.  The direct payment thing ain't gonna fly.  Americans in general are very paranoid(wish I could think of a better word right now) about giving out personal information to anyone.  I work in the Home Security, for ADT (largest best known security name on earth) and people will still refuse to give us their SSN or Banking details.  As far as your claims as to the makeup of other tobaccos, I can say nothing.  I'm just not smart enough.  TANGIERS...HELLLLLLLLPPP!!![quote name='Naqsh']P.S.: the contents of some of the posts here are not very professional.
Sorry, but I'm more interested in a serious discussions than idle talk.[/quote]Teehee, well this is our community too and if we want to talk idly then we will.  By all means feel free to not participate.  Think of this place not as a company boardroom, but running into some buddies at the liquor store.  I will say, however, that I truly am glad you stuck around to talk this out and that you weren't just here to spam our site and never be seen again.

[Sonthert]

Sorry, Naqsh , you are right on many points. We are less serious, we are friends sitting around talking. Even though most of us haven't met each other or barely know one another, we joke around, because we look at recreation holistically. Its how we differ...nobody's right, we're just different...if you think the way we conduct ourselves is wrong, why would you want to do business with us? We do have a serious discussion section, perhaps you could contribute a thread or two to give us some more serious subjects to discuss and we could understand each other better. Hookah tobacco has evolved way beyond pipe tobacco. I understand that glycerine content is regulated in Germany, and I understand that the quality of the low glycerine tobacco for export to Germany is generally poorer than the non-German market tobacco. I am glad to see that you guys are fighting back against the crap they try to stick on you. On the other hand, without the glycerine, it is pipe tobacco. We don't burn our tobacco, we vaporize glycerine and flavoring. Many brands have gotten to the point where they are removing all traces of tobacco from their stuff. I understand your perspective, but I think you will find ours differs. That is, I think the average hookah smoker, here on the Hookah Forum, will have a different opinion than yours. I do respect your points, because those are points I addressed when I started developing my tobacco. Except for number four, that is. I share and support your points, sir. We hope that you will not look too unfavorably on us and continue to visit us. Other than that, try to get into the spirit of the place, your attitude comes off slightly sharp for HookahForum tastes, if you will forgive an observation. P.S. the website does suck, there is another one under construction, but I don't really want to use the forum for promoting my websites, since they A)suck and B)I don't sell anything there. Eventually, when I get someone reliable to do my website, I will be putting technical information up there, which may be of some more use...