great glavin Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 After extensive experimentation with an actual "electric tobacco heater" and the same heater torn apart and modified for optimum performance, I have concluded that using electricity to smoke off of instead of coals simply doesnt work as well as coals. I'd hoped for awhile that it would be a reasonable method to smoke (and save $$$ on coals) alas, my results were unsatisfactory. After ajusting heat and millimeters at a time I could get an optimum smoke quantity from the electric heater, the smoke quality just wasnt there. So for anyone curious and willing to invest in this method, dont - it simply doesnt work. My theory on its failure is that it just toasts the tobacco to death (toaster heating elements were tried, and proved most successful ),but still sucked. Its kinda like getting those famous coal walker guys to perform a balancing act across a red hot wire, suspended 5 stories up, with the same predictable drastic results displayed on the unfortunate sessions test subject. Coals are the way to go, period. I am smoking with them now, and the heater has been exiled to the far corners of my hallway closet, never to be gazed upon again. A sad day for cheapskate experimental science for smoking pwnage indeed :-. P.S. It ****ed me up pretty bad too, rofl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hey now, just because you tinkered with it doesn't mean someone else won't be succesful in the future. You gave a valiant effort, nothing to be ashamed of. Oh, I'll take that tobacco heater off your hands, especially if you don't plan on using it anymore Where did you get your aparatus from, online hookah store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Paintball Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I've always tried to find one of these electric heaters...Care to link us up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikydave Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 glavin is a professional! how dare u all doubt his word, for his word is law, and we shall accept all said as fact. thus it is decreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 i'm kicking myself right now, i was looking at a charcoal lighter last night and now i can't find the link for you. but it was pretty cool, it had a little head dial and everything. You put your natural coals in the little metal cup thing and set your heat and it says it will get you natural coals hookah ready in 3 - 4 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Actually Mr.Guy, what Glavin was using was first marketed to be an an electric tobacco heater- so that you would justbly put it on your bowl, and use no coals to smoke.When everyone came back and said it was damn near impossible to smoke with, they started calling them *COAL* lighters.Hookah-shisha.com carries them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Like I said, the engineering says it won't work. Prove control theory wrong, if you can! Its good to test things out, make sure we're not all missing something...if it could work, it would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great glavin Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 Funny, hookah shisha is where i originally got it years ago. I'm glad they changed the name and redefined its functions, as this thing can get coals cooked fully in seconds. I know the electric "toasting" way wont work for a fact now, but what id really like to know is why wont it? I became physically unable to smoke it after a while because. i developed a burning in the back of my throat (distinctive from any coal use in the past.) and after 10 mins i got a pain in my ears right where they connect to my head, it was weird stuff. other symptoms included a greater shortness of breath then usual and a slightly nauseated feeling. All for science though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'm sure tangier would be able to exlpain it. just a hit in the dark, but maybe the reaction that happens to get the smoke from the shisha involves the CO or CO2 given of from coals when they burn (coals being carbon and all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Explain what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 explain why the electric doodedab wont work as coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ah...the control system issue, the response-delay time for the electric heater is too slow (underdamped). Like your furnace, it turns on-off several minutes after it decides that it needs to. Of course when you're smoking hookah, in that time your bowl has gone out or scorched hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus9638 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thanks for the post, Glavin. I've always wondered whether or not the electrical heaters worked well. Now I don't have to waste any money on one. Secondly, what does "pwnage" mean? I've seen this word a bunch of times on the internet and could never figure it out. Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepyrofish Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 It's net slang, derived from a misspelling of ownage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 "ownage". references that someone is owned. I can only speculate the "p" makes the world look more like the word "pawn" which would make the word "pwned" a double meaning. that the person is owned and just a pawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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