kmccoy90 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't know how else to describe it. I was lighting some CH Nat halves on my stove and I heard a loud pop and turn around to see a 6 inch flame coming from the middle of one. Straight through the middle. It blew ash everywhere. It eventually went out, but scared the crap out of me. It's burning fine, but there's a gray spot where the coal burned through. Anyone else experience this? I'd hate for this to happen with worse results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarePolice Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I've experienced something similar, but less dramatic. However, I had a quick lite literally disintegrate in the tongs once. It looked whole, and right after I lit it, I blew on it and it turned into a weird fiery dust. Weirdest thing that ever happened to me, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 [quote name='kmccoy90' timestamp='1298559509' post='499232'] I don't know how else to describe it. I was lighting some CH Nat halves on my stove and I heard a loud pop and turn around to see a 6 inch flame coming from the middle of one. Straight through the middle. It blew ash everywhere. It eventually went out, but scared the crap out of me. It's burning fine, but there's a gray spot where the coal burned through. Anyone else experience this? I'd hate for this to happen with worse results. [/quote] holy crap that is not something that you want to see,ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Never happened, but I've never used CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have never had it happen, and use this product nightly, and have for over 2 years. that is just nuts. The guys at empire hookah lounge (not promoting but bringing them up for this example) go through almost a kilo box of ch nats nightly, and have for the past year if not longer, so I asked them this question before, as you do hear about exploding coal stories. They claim that it's happened just a couple of time, but again, look at how many they go through. The percentage is low, I can't explain how or why that would happen, but the chance of that happening if you do the math has got to be .00001% (ok i made that up but someone do the math, it has to be really low a container is 16000kg boxes, multply by 100 cubes to keep it easy, 1,600,000, there have been 4 containers produced, 64,000,000 cubes) wow by my math if it happened 100 times it would be .0000015625% likely hood. I don't mean to over complicate things, but I'm just glad you're ok, that sounds crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 i wouldn't be that concerned, john. i mean, of course, it is a bit of a problem if they explode, but i mean due to the odds i wouldn't be that concerned. plus if it happened more often im sure more people would complain or bring it up. it is a bit interesting though. i mean i have had a few 3K's explode in the past, but i've never had that problem nor heard of that problem with natural coals. weird. i guess i'll let you know if that happens with any of these razan coals i have, since i have a couple boxes already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It's never haopened to me except with Starlight coconut coals. Those fuckers split and explode like crazy. I have had CHs spark on me (yes the naturals), but nothing serious. It was like one or two times. Coal I've had least problems with is CCNs, so that's what I stick with. I think in your case it was just a rare occurrence, and shouldn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasseah Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Those coals love to explode/break/disentegrate I got a big box from the store because they didn't have Coco Nara's..will be glad when I'm done with this box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy Ford Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 wow me and my friends had a shitty deezer ql explode all over us. My friend got burnt under his eye and my other friend just got holes in his shirt. Crazy shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 [quote name='HookahJohn' timestamp='1298567251' post='499242'] I have never had it happen, and use this product nightly, and have for over 2 years. that is just nuts. The guys at empire hookah lounge (not promoting but bringing them up for this example) go through almost a kilo box of ch nats nightly, and have for the past year if not longer, so I asked them this question before, as you do hear about exploding coal stories. They claim that it's happened just a couple of time, but again, look at how many they go through. The percentage is low, I can't explain how or why that would happen, but the chance of that happening if you do the math has got to be .00001% (ok i made that up but someone do the math, it has to be really low a container is 16000kg boxes, multply by 100 cubes to keep it easy, 1,600,000, there have been 4 containers produced, 64,000,000 cubes) wow by my math if it happened 100 times it would be .0000015625% likely hood. I don't mean to over complicate things, but I'm just glad you're ok, that sounds crazy. [/quote] of crouse anything is possible: [font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"]Odds of bowling a 300 game: 11,500 to 1 Odds of getting a hole in one: 5,000 to 1 Odds of getting canonized: 20,000,000 to 1 Odds of being an astronaut: 13,200,000 to 1 Odds of winning an Olympic medal: 662,000 to 1 Odds of an American speaking Cherokee: 15,000 to 1 Odds that a person between the age of 18 and 29 does NOT read a newspaper regularly: 3 to 1 Odds that an American adult does not want to live to age 120 under any circumstances: 3 to 2 Odds of injury from fireworks: 19,556 to 1 Odds of injury from shaving: 6,585 to 1 Odds of injury from using a chain saw: 4,464 to 1 Odds of injury from mowing the lawn: 3,623 to 1 Odds of fatally slipping in bath or shower: 2,232 to 1 Odds of drowning in a bathtub: 685,000 to 1 Odds of being killed on a 5-mile bus trip: 500,000,000 to 1 Odds of being killed sometime in the next year in any sort of transportation accident: 77 to 1 Odds of being killed in any sort of non-transportation accident: 69 to 1 Odds of being struck by lightning: 576,000 to 1 Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1 Odds of being murdered: 18,000 to 1 Odds of getting away with murder: 2 to 1 Odds of being the victim of serious crime in your lifetime: 20 to 1 Odds of dating a supermodel: 88,000 to 1 Odds of being considered possessed by Satan: 7,000 to 1 Odds that a first marriage will survive without separation or divorce for 15 years: 1.3 to 1 Odds that a celebrity marriage will last a lifetime: 3 to 1 Odds of getting hemorrhoids: 25 to 1 Odds of being born a twin in North America: 90 to 1 Odds of being on plane with a drunken pilot: 117 to 1 Odds of being audited by the IRS: 175 to 1 Odds of having your identity stolen: 200 to 1 Odds of dating a millionaire: 215 to 1 Odds of dating a supermodel: 88,000 to 1 [/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccoy90 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have a feeling there was a less dense pocket within the coal. When it lit, more air + less coal led to a reaction. As the coal burned, there was a clear hole within it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaceman27 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 [quote][color=#1C2837][size=2]It's never haopened to me except with Starlight coconut coals. Those fuckers split and explode like crazy. I have had CHs spark on me (yes the naturals), but nothing serious. It was like one or two times. Coal I've had least problems with is CCNs, so that's what I stick with. I think in your case it was just a rare occurrence, and shouldn't happen again. [/size][/color][/quote] yeah i use those starlights and its not rare for them to pop a couple inches off of my burner or bowl and fall of to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 sounds like a fluke. As said above, could have been an air pocket or a chunk of some impurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccoy90 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Interestingly, I lit the other half later. It didn't pop, but it did burn through and left a similar ash pattern/hole. Pretty sure this was a less-dense pocket consistent throughout the coal. And to John, I know stuff happens. I'm not worried about it. I was just curious because I had never had anything quite that dramatic occur. With 120 coals per box, and natural coals having notoriously shaky QC, there's no way to keep your eyes on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyclark86 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but it was the most relevant thing to come up from the search. I opened a brand new box of John's natural coal a couple weeks ago, and in that time, I've had 4 "explode" on me. The slight pressure from the tongs as I pick it up off the coil causes it to shatter everywhere. I didn't know if anyone else was having this problem. I've been using John's natural coal for about a year and this is the first that it has happened...and 4 instances from this box (I'm about half-way through). Almost seems like the coal wasn't pressed enough and the heat caused it to separate.... At least, that's my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 to add to this. I have only used CH's once and it was over a year ago, but out of the box, 1 out of 3 of the coals "popped" into smaller pieces usually into 2/3 pieces. Probably just a bad box, but definitely turned me off of them. i used to leave them on the stove for a few minutes unattended while I loaded a bowl/ cleaned the pipe and often found thirds or halves off the burner and on my counter. after this happened more than once I never left the coals unattended for more than 10 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I've never had an issue with johns coals, They are a high quality product that I trust. That being said anything can happen with any pressed coal. When a Sinbad QL explodes, breaks, disintegrates or leaves toxic fumes in your house and body nobody complains because it is somewhat expected but when a higher quality coal erupts people like to point it out. If I was John (my name is John but I'm not that John) I would be happy that people hold my product in high enough regard that they would mention my very low fail rate. You Go John! Good Job! also, as for them breaking when you pick them up with tongs, you need to store the coals in a less humid place. Perhaps the store you purchased them from needs to keep them more dry but that is the cause of coals being crumbly, too much moisture. Try it out if you like, take a pressed coal of any kind, add a little water, dry it out and light it. Just be very careful as it will break apart on you once it's lit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 my friend used to store coals in his fridge to keep them super dry since we live in super humid south florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I've had nothing but problems with the 2008 batches I bought...me and my roommates split on 5 boxes...sometimes they explode on the stove and most of the time they explode when we go to flip them when they are 2/3 of the way done, but I don't hold it against CH's fully, the coals are 2 1/2 years old so I imagine something is going to be bad about them being old coals and they were dirt cheap...but my carpet and kitchen table have suffered drastically, as well as a buddy's carpet who bought a box off of us newer ones, I've only had a few explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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