Alqoshnia Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 [quote name='Bleeding_Heart1']hmm i really wanna try this stuff... wait till that student loan comes in:)[/quote] the money is going into educational use I see.[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Just so you guys are aware, a lot of the health concerns with hookah come from the coals, which you'd still be using. In any case, this looks interesting, and I would definitely be buying some if I knew what herbs were in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding_Heart1 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 [quote name='Alqoshnia'][quote name='Bleeding_Heart1']hmm i really wanna try this stuff... wait till that student loan comes in:)[/quote] the money is going into educational use I see.[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif[/img][/quote] Well i just got a knee surgery and i have to stay off of that leg for 6 weeks. I got a living expence loan with enough to help me out while im down since i cant work.[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs does bring "tar" with it. "Tar" is particulate matter formed by burning vegetable material. The content of the tar will be different from plant to plant, but you're still drawing particles into your lungs.That said, herbal shisha won't brong nicotine with it, which can cause elevated blood pressure while under the effect of it. However, you don't necessarily know what other plant alkaloids you may be inhaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Dayz Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 i ordered some yesterday, hopefully they'll get here tomorrow or monday. i will definately let you all know what's up with them.the best part of owning a hookah lounge=having your business pay for your shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I envy you, lazy. Although... I'm considering opening a lounge or just a hookah store out here in Alabama... the only lounge around here doesn't have the best atmosphere/selection/service/price... so I could probably do decently with a couple of small colleges around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 im sick of all this "herbal" stuff that is becoming popular. as if "all natural" mean "good for you". tobacco is all natural too. so is arsenic and horse manure. i wont smoke it until i know what "herbs" are in it. p.s. the government was also shy about revealing its "secret" ingredient for Soilent Green. dont mean to sound hateful, im just nervous when someone says "open your mouth and close your eyes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnick Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 damn i cant wait to try this! ill be ordering soon! but why does it say shipping weight is 3lbs? Shipping Weight: 3.00 lbs i dont think its fair to charge that, if anything a few jars should = 1lb, and u dont really need 2 lbs of packing material, just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 [quote name='Buford']Inhaling any kind of smoke into your lungs does bring "tar" with it. "Tar" is particulate matter formed by burning vegetable material. The content of the tar will be different from plant to plant, but you're still drawing particles into your lungs.[/quote]It's my understanding that the tar you get from smoking hookah (ANY shisha) is from the glycerin, molasses and whatever other additives are being vaporized. I don't think there's any tar from burning -- the shisha isn't supposed to burn. My guess (and it's just I guess, I really have no idea) is that shisha tar is more easily broken down by the body and less toxic than the tar you'd get from burning matter. I'd think that means more short-term effects, less long term... but I really don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 you cant realy have 0% tar, because tar is defined as anything that isnt tobacco or nicotine i think.search through and a scientist somewhere was explaining how they do research into smoking and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Yeah... "tar" is quite a broad term. I don't think that smoking hookah will give you any of the same tar you'd get from smoking cigarettes, but my guess is that shisha smoke is loaded with 'other' kinds of tar. Probably at least 5 times as much as cigarette smoke. I mean... just take a big hit and look at how thick the smoke is! It's dense enough to block out the sun...Ever blow hookah smoke through a piece of tissue paper? You won't see any of the yellow that you would from a hit of a cigarette, but the tissue will get so wet that you'll probably blow a hole through it. The question is whether or not that wetness is damaging to the lungs... like I said, my guess is more short-term effects, less long-term effects. And keep in mind that none of this takes the burning charcoal into account.Sorry to go a little off topic and turn this into a health discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 cymptom, try inhaling through a tissue. i havn't, but i suspect there wont be as much tar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I think I did try that and the tissue broke as soon as it got a little damp. But yeah, a filter of some sort would take out a lot of the tar, and probably a whole lot of the smoke thickness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 search the forum for heba or hebo. can't remember which, but basically, its a filter to put on the end of the stem which claims to filter out nicotine and other stuff and it also acts as a diffuser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafedelmar Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What about a piece of filter paper? and what if, rather than hold it near your mouth, you put it at the other end of the hose, where it connects to the stem? Anyone with a coffee filter at home care on trying it out and letting us know? It would also solve the problem of gunk in the hose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 also solve the problem of having a slightly loose hose connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 gunk in the hose - go to hookah-shisha.com and they have lil red mouth filters. basically, you put them in the end of the hose and take the first 5 - 10 puffs through the filter to remove the gunk and then take the filter out and smoke as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain Soph Aur Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 heba filters [url="http://www.arguily.com/dispProduct.asp?prd_id=81"]http://www.arguily.com/dispProduct.asp?prd_id=81[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikydave Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 tobacco/smoking is just a fancy way of transporting nicotine to the bloodstream, not sure why people would want to go and start eliminating it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah~rob~ Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 hey gusy just wanted to say that i tried the whole filter thing over the end of my mouthpiece of my hose, i didtn see any "tar" like appearance on the gauze i used, just pieces of rust from my hose where it rusted[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif[/img] so off to the hookah shop to grab another one tomorrow. what was the secret ingredient for soilent green anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafedelmar Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Rob, how did it rust? was that form before?MrGuy - i usually blow into my house a few times before plugging it into the stem to get red of all that gunk. it's always a gross powder that comes flying out - the worst is when i forget to blow out though! i dont want to necessarily get rid of the nicotine, i just want to get rid of all the particles and what not that accumulate in the hose (and more importantly, my lungs). but if you have to sacrifice the quality/thickness of the smoke, i dont think its worth it. personally, i only smoke once every couple of weeks, if that even, so it's not a GREAT concern to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I'm a little bit sad, because I wanted to try one box of it but I cannot order, because there is no shipping to Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 [quote name='DarthHookah']im sick of all this "herbal" stuff that is becoming popular. as if "all natural" mean "good for you". tobacco is all natural too. so is arsenic and horse manure. i wont smoke it until i know what "herbs" are in it. p.s. the government was also shy about revealing its "secret" ingredient for Soilent Green.dont mean to sound hateful, im just nervous when someone says "open your mouth and close your eyes"[/quote] All natural doesn't mean good for you in any sense, agreed.However, if you don't want to smoke it without the information, that is your choice. The government has nothing to do with it; in fact were the product to be TRULY approved for sale, it would include information such as ingrediants.And soylent green was a book; by no means reality here or elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 soilent green is made from PEOPLE! its made out of PEOPLE! "in fact were the product to be TRULY approved for sale, it would include information such as ingrediants." so it hasnt been approved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loanshark Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Most herbel items do not need fda approval which makes them a crap shoot. a few herbs some bark for filler some pencil shaving for tast mix with honey and smoke. Take some basil mix with oregino and bind with tomato sauce we can make pizza herbal shisha. Italian hookah lovers rejoice!!!!!!![img]http://hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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