Sin on Sunday Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I ordered a discount vortex bowl from hookah-shisha and just notw realized the inner "tube" is open at the top like the phunnel, yet it is suposed to be a vortex. i packed it like a phunnel, except not packed down tight and i didnt cover the side holes... i am also using a new hose and a new adapter with an auto seal... and i am getting VERY little smoke. it sounds like there is a little air being sucked down but i didnt poke holes in the center. before with my little mya bowl and mya hose i got good results, this isnt working well. using 1 of those coconut instant lights. any ideas what im doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) If your Vortex is broken in the center, tell the folks at H-S and ask about a replacement. Also, use more heat. 1 coconut coal won't be enough, I use three on a Vortex, usually. Edited March 28, 2011 by Epoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Sin on Sunday' timestamp='1301278024' post='503242'] I ordered a [b]discount vortex bowl [/b]from hookah-shisha and just notw realized the inner "tube" is open at the top like the phunnel, yet it is suposed to be a vortex. i packed it like a phunnel, except not packed down tight and i didnt cover the side holes... i am also using a new hose and a new adapter with an auto seal... and i am getting VERY little smoke. it sounds like there is a little air being sucked down but i didnt poke holes in the center. before with my little mya bowl and mya hose i got good results, this isnt working well. using 1 of those coconut instant lights. any ideas what im doing wrong? [/quote] well i honestly dont think they would be willing to replace it because it was a discounted product.. but its worth a try.. also a pic would help. What I am picturing in my head is something that is not going to work no matter what you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jester Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 try taking a bit of clay or something else and just seal the hole at the top I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I don't think you can use just normal clay to do that ? I mean it would heat up and shit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jester Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 well lets see... the bowl is made of clay... the whole bowl is hot as hell after every session (without the patch)... wheres the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Can we get a picture of the bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I am not seeing a problem. I remember when they first came out, several people were busting out there dremels and cutting off the top of the middle anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 wonder if a tea light mod would fix the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 more heat is needed. Mine take a minimum of 3 cocos. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeDave Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Again, as all said, pictures would help. Show us the bowl with and without tobacco in it, show us how you have put on foil and holes, and how you are using coals. This will help immensly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Stuie' timestamp='1301324811' post='503288'] I am not seeing a problem. I remember when they first came out, several people were busting out there dremels and cutting off the top of the middle anyways. [/quote] this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='The Jester' timestamp='1301311592' post='503271'] well lets see... the bowl is made of clay... the whole bowl is hot as hell after every session (without the patch)... wheres the problem? [/quote] arent hookah bowls "fired" so they no longer are effected by major heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Your problem is suction....that is since you didn't poke holes over the open top of the vortex your foil is getting sucked down and closing off the top of the bowl. To fix it poke a hole in the center of the hole. Then if you still have a problem work on your heat management, the bowl should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='The Jester' timestamp='1301311592' post='503271'] well lets see... the bowl is made of clay... the whole bowl is hot as hell after every session (without the patch)... wheres the problem? [/quote] [quote name='king_lunchb0x' timestamp='1301350697' post='503385'] arent hookah bowls "fired" so they no longer are effected by major heat? [/quote] ^ This. The clay from which the hookah bowls are made of is fired, so in my understanding, it is not advisable to use normal clay that you can just leave out in the sun to dry. Edited March 28, 2011 by vendetta_revived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 ya, tried making bowls out of creek clay...they exploded(moisture trapped within that isn't properly cooked right accelerates and boom)...I'm gonna make another attempt this summer and cook them at low heat...but I doubt its a good clay to use period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jester Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 ok ok I was just trying to be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 [quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1301356748' post='503409'] ya, tried making bowls out of creek clay...they exploded(moisture trapped within that isn't properly cooked right accelerates and boom)...I'm gonna make another attempt this summer and cook them at low heat...but I doubt its a good clay to use period [/quote] I'm pretty sure that you have to use a kiln to heat it to a high enough temperature so make it solid and strong. Y'know... the hotter it is, the harder it gets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 i remember reading in the safety thread of the how to section about how the clay will emit chemicals when heated if the thing hasn't been fired in a furnace. sounds like a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 One of the major reasons that most people here haven't tried their hand at making their own phunnel bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1301409188' post='503476'] [quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1301356748' post='503409'] ya, tried making bowls out of creek clay...they exploded(moisture trapped within that isn't properly cooked right accelerates and boom)...I'm gonna make another attempt this summer and cook them at low heat...but I doubt its a good clay to use period [/quote] the hotter it is, the harder it gets... [/quote] nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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