squidget Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Tried some Shiazo stones the other night and it was nice however it felt like something was missing. I thought about adding a drop or two of liquid nicotine to see what would happen. Do you think it will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I'd be very careful if you attempt this. In high concentrations, nicotine is poisonous and an overdose can kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I guess you can take the used up stones and let them sit in an empty tupperware that only has the juices from tangiers? let them sit in there for a few days so they can soak up the juices and then try and smoke them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Like the liquid from an e-cig? That should work; another member (Charlie) added some to regular tobacco a while back and got a crazy buzz. I would sneak up on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidget Posted June 28, 2011 Author Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Skoozle' timestamp='1309301145' post='514024'] Like the liquid from an e-cig? That should work; another member (Charlie) added some to regular tobacco a while back and got a crazy buzz. I would sneak up on it though. [/quote] Aye. Essentially the e-cig refills. Its about 3-6 drops for the e-cig so no more than that I would add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1309293202' post='514019'] I guess you can take the used up stones and let them sit in an empty tupperware that only has the juices from tangiers? let them sit in there for a few days so they can soak up the juices and then try and smoke them. [/quote] Keep in mind the nicotine is in the tobacco leaves themselves, not the sauce on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) [quote name='squidget' timestamp='1309302415' post='514025'] [quote name='Skoozle' timestamp='1309301145' post='514024'] Like the liquid from an e-cig? That should work; another member (Charlie) added some to regular tobacco a while back and got a crazy buzz. I would sneak up on it though. [/quote] Aye. Essentially the e-cig refills. Its about 3-6 drops for the e-cig so no more than that I would add [/quote] I don't think I would go all in with 6 drops the first time. Isn't one of those refills supposed to replace a pack of cigs? I bet you can vaporize that stuff a lot faster in a hookah than you can in an e-cig. Edited June 29, 2011 by Skoozle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 You know this idea brings up an interesting thought. If tobacco is actually banned (or so expensive nobody can afford it anymore), as it seems the anti-smoking nazis seem determined to do, you could take either the stones, or some other innocuous leaf, add the nicotine, flavorings, etc., and end up with a perfect smoking substitute that has nothing to do with tobacco yet has all the nicotine and flavors. Because nobody is ever going to get around to banning nicotine - just tobacco. It's sure worth the experimentation I would think. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1309402127' post='514202'] You know this idea brings up an interesting thought. If tobacco is actually banned (or so expensive nobody can afford it anymore), as it seems the anti-smoking nazis seem determined to do, you could take either the stones, or some other innocuous leaf, add the nicotine, flavorings, etc., and end up with a perfect smoking substitute that has nothing to do with tobacco yet has all the nicotine and flavors. Because nobody is ever going to get around to banning nicotine - just tobacco. It's sure worth the experimentation I would think. 'Rani [/quote] Eric's actually working on it now as we speak. Not sure exactly what he has thought of/tried and whether or not it involves stones, but he's working on it nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' timestamp='1309405055' post='514206'] [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1309402127' post='514202'] You know this idea brings up an interesting thought. If tobacco is actually banned (or so expensive nobody can afford it anymore), as it seems the anti-smoking nazis seem determined to do, you could take either the stones, or some other innocuous leaf, add the nicotine, flavorings, etc., and end up with a perfect smoking substitute that has nothing to do with tobacco yet has all the nicotine and flavors. Because nobody is ever going to get around to banning nicotine - just tobacco. It's sure worth the experimentation I would think. 'Rani [/quote] [b]Eric's actually working on it now as we speak[/b]. Not sure exactly what he has thought of/tried and whether or not it involves stones, but he's working on it nonetheless. [/quote] This is strange and exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidget Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 So I tried it. 3 times and fail all 3 times. I picked up some e-liquid, one flavored one not. First I did two drops since it seems the consensus is this stuff is pretty powerful. 2nd time I went for 6 drops, 3rd time 12 drops and still nada. It's possible that stones absorb the nicotine but do not release it when heated. My next step is I'm soaking some stones directly in the e-liquid itself and they had no other flavor agents. If that doesn't work then I call this exp. failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I kinda hate to ask this because you seem like a pretty smart lady but you did get e-liquid with nicotine in it, right? I know some of that stuff is sold without nicotine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidget Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 [quote name='Skoozle' timestamp='1310070466' post='515031'] I kinda hate to ask this because you seem like a pretty smart lady but you did get e-liquid with nicotine in it, right? I know some of that stuff is sold without nicotine. [/quote] Yes, with nicotine. I got two different dosages and maybe they were both too low? One is 8mg and other is 12mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds_1007 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 8 & 12 MG are low, but the reason you want low is because it is condensed. You could get one hit that is a monster, and the rest all weak. Matter of fact, I have some Tangiers that doesn't wanna acclimate 100% to my liking, so i added some blueberry to it. I added 7 drops or so, but my level is 18MG. Standard is about 15-18. My understanding is that shiazo stones are very similiar to e-cigs. I vape alot [e-cigs...] and they are entirely made up of 1: Flavor 2: Base (PG/Propylene Glycol OR VG/Vegetable Glycerin) <--- Also makes smoke/vapor 3: Nicotine So what i would do, is get some USP grade Vegetable Glycerin (google search "e-liquid + vegetable glycerin + sale") and mix it w/flavoring, (again only use e-liquid/e-cigarette stuff cause' you know it's safe to inhale) and nicotine juice. You can use a calculator from [url="http://www.ejuice.breaktru.com/"]http://www.ejuice.breaktru.com/[/url] if you want one that is downloadable, or online @: [url="http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php"]http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php[/url] this way you never have to buy the shiazo liquid again. Thing to keep in mind, because of the amount you will be smoking- instead of using the normal 15% flavoring, 15% nicotine, the rest VG OR PG (Though i recommend VG! It's in almost all shisha, that and honey); i would use like 5% nicotine. You might think, oh well i already have this juice... Well, that's true. But you need at the minimum a good amount of liquid to absorb the nicotine evenly. And really, I make all my own e-liquid, and it costs me about $0.15/pack. And BTW: in those cartridges, it is equal to the amount of 2 packs of cigarettes, though not really because all the additives and gun powder etc in cigarettes help your body absorb the poisons better. So you feel less nicotine essentially. I tried adding juice to my bowl right now and i got a few big big hits, and i'm sure the rest randomly burned away... lol. So, my point is that it just must be spaced out and mixed really well. Good luck, if you get stuck pm me or have the admin shoot me an email. PS: I didn't list the actual vendors i buy from because I don't want to promote anything, just show you the correct route from an experienced user in both fields. The above links are all free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 i know they have those little packets of gel with nicotine in them you could always do that i would start with a litle drop instead of the hole thing but worth a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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