rhineholt Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 a good reason to act like an asshole? Let me explain. My friend got really drunk and got into a fight with my friend, not a fist fight or anything, just a very heated argument. We were at my summer home in Indiana and the really drunk girl decided to go swing on the 25 year old swing. I walked over to her and i kindly asked her to get off the swing and come back upstairs where there's light. (it was 3 in the morning) She said no and kept being difficult, but finally i convinced her to get off the swing. As she was walking back up the stairs, she called me an asshole and a jerk and a few other names, just because i was looking out for her safety. I explained that to her too. NOW, I wasn't upset that she was a jerk to me when she was drunk; I was upset she didn't apologize to me the next morning for being so disrespectful. I was talking to my friend about it thats close friends with her and I asked if she thought she was being rude. She said no, because she was drunk, i should expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Well, it's an unfortunate situation to be in for sure, but I can say from experience that there is a more than a good chance that she doesn't even have a recollection of what she said to you when she was drunk. I've never got into a fight or an argument when drunk, but sometimes I call people and have random conversations for as long as 45 minutes, and the next morning, I have no recollection of it, and get surprised if the same person calls me and tells me how drunk I was the previous night. :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyBuddha Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 She should apologize. That simple. No excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorlyfish Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Shit happens, but angry drunks are always annoying. Like to me, it's one thing to be drunk and "lose your filter" and say something dumb, or like spill something on someone, etc. and apologize later, but its another to pick fights and stuff. If I knew I was going to try and get in arguments with people, I would stop getting drunk enough to where I did that, simple as that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 The only thing is she DID have recollection of it the next morning. She asked me if I was mad at her, I said I was annoyed with everything that happened and how she acted. She was just like oh... okay. and i agree jorlyfish. i hate argumentative drunks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Drunkenness brings out the worst in people. That's why I don't get drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1313977467' post='520776'] Drunkenness brings out the worst in people. That's why I don't get drunk. [/quote] very true. she always gets in bad moods when she's under the influence. she's a heavy nht user and would constantly be mean to anyone around her when she did it. i wouldn't have invited her, but i felt bad. i was watching her so she wouldnt get too drunk and be mean again, but i guess she mustve drank more when i left for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 If you can do without the negative people in your life, then do it... My philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 I can, but it seems like every one of my friends love her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='rhineholt' timestamp='1313977459' post='520775'] The only thing is she DID have recollection of it the next morning. She asked me if I was mad at her, I said I was annoyed with everything that happened and how she acted. She was just like oh... okay. and i agree jorlyfish. i hate argumentative drunks [/quote] Well there's just no excuses for that then. My whole point was that you can't be mad at someone for something they don't even remember happened, I mean as long as they didn't physically hurt you or damaged your property, but since she remembered, she should have apologised! As a rule of thumb, I don't drink when I am really upset to forget the feeling, because getting drunk at that time only makes it 10 times worse - I learnt that after I don't even know how many times of having people actually breaking into tears over their past when drunk. I get drunk in the company of good friends only to make the good times better! [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1313977467' post='520776'] Drunkenness brings out the worst in people. That's why I don't get drunk. [/quote] Only that, it also very often brings out the best in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zildjian Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 i voted no, but I also think I am different. On my 21st people wanted to get me HAMMERED because no one had ever seen me hammered before. I guess they thought i would transcend into some sort of mythical party titan or something, but what we found was I was a funny coherent normal me with less balance. So I say no because I have full control of my faculties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 One of the problems of being young (and I'm not being condescending, simply factual) is that there's a lack of experience. Should she have apologized the next morning? Absolutely. Does she have the maturity (usually as a result of experience) to have done so? Probably not for a few more years. Some people mature at a younger age than others. Some seem to have never been young at all so mature are they almost from birth. And I actually chalk it up to being an 'old soul'. You obviously have the maturity and experience to have known an apology was in order and she obviously didn't. I would suggest that you tell her so. Without condescension or blame because when you get to my age you're probably going to have plenty of "oh shit" moments yourself to look back on. But since experience is the only real teacher, kinda up to you to give her some by letting her know it wasn't cool to fail to apologize for her "oh shit" moment. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1313977467' post='520776'] Drunkenness brings out the worst in people. That's why I don't get drunk. [/quote] I wouldn't say drunkenness brings out the worst in people - exactly. I had a coworker that was a recovering addict. Alcohol was not her drug of choice but when she cleaned up she stopped drinking as well. In her words "alcohol makes everything easier". I would say that pretty much covers it. It makes it easier to be a jackass, or mean, or let your emotions out, or whatever. And any of us with more than a few drunken episodes under our belt can give you a list of things we thought were an absolutely great idea. Right up until the morning after when we sobered up. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1313977467' post='520776'] Drunkenness brings out the awesome in people. That's why Iain gets drunk. [/quote] i fixed that for ya, chris and yes, that person should apologize. im always a fun drunk, but i know if i do something stupid, simply saying "oh i was drunk" doesn't make everything ok. she really should apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think Rani understands her situation the most. It might not be easy for her to apologize. She does probably feel really bad about it, so much so that she can't vocalize the apology. I think her asking and acknowledging is about as close as you'll get for a while. I'd take that as a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1314033027' post='520843'] One of the problems of being young (and I'm not being condescending, simply factual) is that there's a lack of experience. Should she have apologized the next morning? Absolutely. Does she have the maturity (usually as a result of experience) to have done so? Probably not for a few more years. Some people mature at a younger age than others. Some seem to have never been young at all so mature are they almost from birth. And I actually chalk it up to being an 'old soul'. You obviously have the maturity and experience to have known an apology was in order and she obviously didn't. I would suggest that you tell her so. Without condescension or blame because when you get to my age you're probably going to have plenty of "oh shit" moments yourself to look back on. But since experience is the only real teacher, kinda up to you to give her some by letting her know it wasn't cool to fail to apologize for her "oh shit" moment. 'Rani [/quote] I completely understand. I just figured she would've at least apologized when she brought it up. [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1314041242' post='520871'] I think Rani understands her situation the most. It might not be easy for her to apologize. She does probably feel really bad about it, so much so that she can't vocalize the apology. I think her asking and acknowledging is about as close as you'll get for a while. I'd take that as a victory. [/quote] I dont think she actually feels bad about it. I think she thinks that just because she was drunk, she could get away with things that she normally wouldnt have. OH WELL, that just means she wont be invited next time i head out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Oh, well...if she didn't feel bad about it then, I dunno. Like you said, just don't invite her next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='IainUM' timestamp='1314036011' post='520852'] [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1313977467' post='520776'] Drunkenness brings out the awesome in people. That's why Iain gets drunk. [/quote] i fixed that for ya, chris and yes, that person should apologize. im always a fun drunk, but i know if i do something stupid, simply saying "oh i was drunk" doesn't make everything ok. she really should apologize [/quote] Fair enough. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 who voted depends?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 It does kinda depend, I do stupid tihngs sometimes, mostly in good fun and never insulting, just pranks that we pull on each other with my friends it still falls under the asshole category tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy Ford Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 it does depend. But you should always apologize if it is something that could or did offend/upset/piss someone off. I've done mean things and said mean things. I always apologized. Now i just don't drink to the point where i'm a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Honestly i doubt she feels one bit of remorse about how she acted. She will probably never apologize. Some people just turn into something else when their drunk. i say dont invite her if she is like that a lot. If she did feel bad the next morning about how she acted she would have said something,not use the excuse thats how she is when she is drunk. sorry man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmccoy90 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I've had two altercations when I was inebriated, and one when I was sober. All three instances, I was not the instigator, but rather the enforcer. For instance, one altercation came after an idiot drunkenly told all of the girls at a party to shut their whore mouths. Rather than let him meet the knuckles of many of the meatheads there, I stepped in and threw him out. I'm one of the most passive people you'll ever meet, but have no problem stepping and ending the situation that is causing the negativity. This being said, alcohol is never an excuse. It's not an excuse for rape, fights, car accidents, bad decisions, etc. etc. etc. It is really pathetic to me when I see someone who can't hold their liquor enough to enjoy the occasion they're attending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 [quote name='FunkyBuddha' timestamp='1313976201' post='520767'] She should apologize. That simple. No excuses. [/quote] I agree. There is no reason not to apologize after you are being belligerent while you are drunk. Unless they actually meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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