jrohrer91 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 So I have read up on this forum for a while when i bought my first hookah and learning what hoses and coals to get, but now i am running into a problem. I am using a generic porcelain bowl, coco nara coals, and fantasia shisha. I lightly pack my boals like it says and i think i am doing everything right from what ive read up on here. Everyone always says how their bowls last over two hours but mine die after 1 all the time I am using a three hose hookah i don't know what brand i bought it at a head shop. I feel like an idiot asking this cause im sure there is a simple reason as to why its not quite right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 A lot of people smoke out of funnel bowls which make the tobacco last longer. An hour isn't too bad for a regular bowl. Usually by the second round of Coconaras in a regular bowl the flavor has already diminished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zildjian Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 their bowls may last 2 hours of continuous smoking, but their coals do not. do you mean your coals die after 1 hour or no more smoke after 1 hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is no more smoke, the shisha is hard as a rock and totally black, there is no flavor left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) Its the funnel or vortex bowls on average they hold close to 50g of tabacco depending on how you pack it. A normal bowl hold 15 to 20 if you push it 30 grams. get a bigger bowl have a longer session. There are other factors but to a beginner the amount of tabacco is going to be the deciding factor. Edited September 8, 2011 by S3cretz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 That's normal. The 2+ hour range is with phunnel bowls and multiple sets of coals. Fantasia lasting in an hour in a normal Egyptian and it turning into a puck is perfectly normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Ok guys thanks alot for your help im looking into getting a new bowl is there any preference over a vortex vs a phunnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Phunnel has better Heat Retention and all around better design for smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 thanks alot guys for all your help it is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This forum will be able to better advise you if you get a phunnel as most of its users prefer phunnels. I prefer a vortex for things like af an nak over a phunnel however. But wetter tabbacos deserve a phunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellz Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Fantasia I'd definetly recommend a phunnel, ON my small, smoking tangiers I've been able to pull 6 hours easily. Just gotta follow the advice here lol. I have a vortex too, and honestly I dont for it. If your smoking with a 3 hose in a group, I'd recommend a medium phunnel. But as far as a generic mod/egyptian bowl I'd say 1 hour is pretty much the normal. So it's not that you are doing anything wrong. It's just the design of the equipment you are using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 awesome thanks alot guys, now when i first started smoking i used quick lights, now i that i use coco nara cubes should i use more than one? and whats the fastest way to light them? I just throw them on the burner of my gas stove at home any better way to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 [quote name='jrohrer91' timestamp='1315506255' post='523043'] awesome thanks alot guys, now when i first started smoking i used quick lights, now i that i use coco nara cubes should i use more than one? and whats the fastest way to light them? I just throw them on the burner of my gas stove at home any better way to do it? [/quote] Stove top lighting is best! As for how many you need, just experiment a bit. 2 - 3 is usually a good number for most bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I think black and pucklike after an hour is a bit much, you may be putting too much heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1315515527' post='523073'] I think black and pucklike after an hour is a bit much, you may be putting too much heat [/quote] I'd have to agree, my normal Egyptian clay bowls do not turn black and puck like after an hour smoking them. That it probably means that you are loading too many coals on at a time and burning it faster which also makes your smoke quite harsh. Usually only the top part gets crispy and the small amount at the bottom is still moist-ish. I personally wouldn't recommend an head shop hookah [i]at all[/i] because later on they tend to crap out relatively fast (this is from personal experience in having a generic, head shop hookah as a first hookah). Also another non-recommendation is not to have a three hose hookah as a first time - learning hookah and single person smoking hookah. The best for learning are usually smaller, one hosed 'pumpkin' esq ones like the Bambino - I learned off of a tiny hookah and learned well lol. Unless the other hoses or outlets have been sealed /plugged up well enough not to leak on your current hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 well thats because i was using huge quick light coals im hoping that will change with my coco naras, and also, I have the following brands of shisha : Fantasia, Romman, Al Fakher, are there any other reconmendations for brands that i am missing? I have heard starbuzz isnt to bad, is it worth tryin out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grock Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Ive actually found my CN's to be hotter than my previous quick lights I use. They are some powerful coals. Starbuzz isnt half bad, but its a lot of money in my opinion. Im a huge fan of all the brands you have listed, in addition Tangiers is a commonly used shisha for me as well. I know not many people recommend it, but I also enjoy packing up a bowl of Nakhla. Packed right with some good coals, and it can definitely yeild some nice results. Tried Nakhla Mizo Lemon recently, tastes identical to yellow Gatorade.... Not half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Best way to light coals: [url="http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/sylvania-1000-watt-single-burner/ID=prod6047661-product"]http://www.walgreens...6047661-product[/url] Or just pick a few up on your nightly walk with this guy: [img]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/PrincessCoyote/walking-on-coals_1786629i.jpg[/img] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntur Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='jrohrer91' timestamp='1315543790' post='523137'] well thats because i was using huge quick light coals im hoping that will change with my coco naras, and also, I have the following brands of shisha : Fantasia, Romman, Al Fakher, are there any other reconmendations for brands that i am missing? I have heard starbuzz isnt to bad, is it worth tryin out? [/quote] I say try Nakhla, its def one of my favorite brands, double apple is the best. if you pack the right bowl the right way and watch your heat, you can get 2+ hours out of it and it wont be black and puck like. (took a long time to get the hang of this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Too much heat is very likely. Im going to double check a small thing, your other hose ports are blocked somehow when its only you smoking right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 Yes i plug the other two ports, and also im considering upgrading since you guys have said its better to get a known brand hookah. [url="http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-1743-mya-saray-hookah-gyro-3-hose-hookah.html"]http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-1743-mya-saray-hookah-gyro-3-hose-hookah.html[/url] That is the one i am looking at. Any suggestions? Pros, and cons about this hookah, Can i get it cheaper. BTW im looking to buy the 4 hose model instead. Wat do yo u guys think about mayas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 sorry for double post but, Coyote: 1) i lold 2) do you just directly place ur coals on the burner and that heats them up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalanta Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 [quote name='jrohrer91' timestamp='1315695208' post='523368'] Yes i plug the other two ports, and also im considering upgrading since you guys have said its better to get a known brand hookah. [url="http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-1743-mya-saray-hookah-gyro-3-hose-hookah.html"]http://www.hookah-sh...ose-hookah.html[/url] That is the one i am looking at. Any suggestions? Pros, and cons about this hookah, Can i get it cheaper. BTW im looking to buy the 4 hose model instead. Wat do yo u guys think about mayas? [/quote] You might want to check the trades section. Stuie has quite a few hookahs for sale. Check under reviews, each one is reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrohrer91 Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 ok awesome thanks alot atalanta, seems like i found my new hookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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