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I just learned last night about packages of incense that are sold behind the counter at a hookah "lounge" in town. The word, from their competitor down the street--who really is a hookah lounge (the other mainly sells cigars, tobacco, etc and hookah is just something they've added) is that this place is using some sort of additive that has caused certain Navy people who were in town to have positive drug screens and so word is not to go there if you need to be tested. It is not known what is popping up on those screenings. So last night I stopped in and bought some shisha and went to the counter to chat with the 2 guys running the place about it. He denied that they use any additive. But he grabbed a packet of Black Mamba from behind the counter to show me...not sure why...and told me this is an incense. I looked at the ingredients. He denied that they put this in there, that it is burned just like incense--for aroma. They also had packets of Dead Man Walking, Cloud 10 Storm, and some others. Rather than writing down all the names--as I wanted to research it at home--I just used my cell phone camera and took a photo of each for reference. At that time he became very defensive and very rude. So today I started trying to research these products but for some reason can't find anything out. Does anyone know about this stuff and is it used as an additive in hookahs???? I'm interested from a clinical standpoint as I am a medical professional. Also though I do smoke shisha and don't want to have to do a uds for work and patron this place where they might be doctoring up their bowls. Any info would be greatly appreaciated!! Thanks.
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this is a touchy subject here. its is not hookah tobacco nor any tobacco for that matter. Your kind of on a fine line with this. Just do little more digging on the web you should get some hits on what it is similar to.

That's all I have to say about that.
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[quote name='southernhookin' timestamp='1315602936' post='523242']
Please admin/mod--I am not Lord of the Hose. That makes me very irritated and being on this forum should make me chill....
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Why does that irritate you....
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[quote name='southernhookin' timestamp='1315603889' post='523246']
ok, so i did some homework. now i know. those guys were really acting weird when i was probing them for info on what they might be doing...who knows. anyway, no biz with me with that place anymore.
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Also about your title. Go check your intro thread. I explained it there.
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[quote name='southernhookin' timestamp='1315602936' post='523242']
Please admin/mod--I am not Lord of the Hose. That makes me very irritated and being on this forum should make me chill....
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:rofl2:

You are the only person that can frustrate yourself. Its up to you to choose how you react, and there are worse things to be called than low lord of the hose.
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"incense" is indeed a man made legal drug, for now. It's like it's predecessor, "spice". Spice has been pulled from most markets and incense is the replacement, though it's next to go i am sure. You should avoid ANY place that has the stuff. I would also put the word out officially what is going on, your base can likely make the place officially off limits and with a sample you may be able to help the folks who unknowingly were exposed to the stuff.
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the incense was made illegal just about two weeks ago here in Pennsylvania, some of those brands that were named above were some of the ones pulled off shelves...they also made Diviner's Sage illegal

are we going to add that to the rules? I think it would be fair
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[quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1315632271' post='523291']
the incense was made illegal just about two weeks ago here in Pennsylvania, some of those brands that were named above were some of the ones pulled off shelves...they also made Diviner's Sage illegal

are we going to add that to the rules? I think it would be fair
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It's making hookah look bad, so I'm down for adding it to the rules. We need to keep our hobby as legit as possible.
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[quote name='king_lunchb0x' timestamp='1315634934' post='523296']
If it is becoming illegal in states across the u.s. then I would have to agree with adding it to the rules. Just another thing that give real hookah smokers a bad rep
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I think hookah itself does a good enough job.
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[quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1315632271' post='523291']
the incense was made illegal just about two weeks ago here in Pennsylvania, some of those brands that were named above were some of the ones pulled off shelves...they also made Diviner's Sage illegal

are we going to add that to the rules? I think it would be fair
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It's making hookah look bad, so I'm down for adding it to the rules. We need to keep our hobby as legit as possible.
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How about adding it to the rules and banning everyone here mentioning it retrospectively? :pardon:
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[quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1315651580' post='523303']
[quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1315634527' post='523294']
[quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1315632271' post='523291']
the incense was made illegal just about two weeks ago here in Pennsylvania, some of those brands that were named above were some of the ones pulled off shelves...they also made Diviner's Sage illegal

are we going to add that to the rules? I think it would be fair
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It's making hookah look bad, so I'm down for adding it to the rules. We need to keep our hobby as legit as possible.
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How about adding it to the rules and banning everyone here mentioning it retrospectively? :pardon:
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Haha... That'd be a little unfair, don't you think? That would really be "not forewarning" the original poster of this thread. :lol:
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[quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1315652986' post='523305']
[quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1315651580' post='523303']
[quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1315634527' post='523294']
[quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1315632271' post='523291']
the incense was made illegal just about two weeks ago here in Pennsylvania, some of those brands that were named above were some of the ones pulled off shelves...they also made Diviner's Sage illegal

are we going to add that to the rules? I think it would be fair
[/quote]

It's making hookah look bad, so I'm down for adding it to the rules. We need to keep our hobby as legit as possible.
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How about adding it to the rules and banning everyone here mentioning it retrospectively? :pardon:
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Haha... That'd be a little unfair, don't you think? That would really be "not forewarning" the original poster of this thread. :lol:
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Oh it's very unfair! I just happen to have a very boring weekend ahead of me! :D No seriously though, it should be added to the rules I think.
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i can't believe a lounge would put that into the hookah without telling someone, maybe if you ask for it and its legal in your state than that shouldn't be anyone's problem, but I've heard and known personally people who've had horrible experiences with this stuff, actually my brother's friend they though was dying and almost took to the hospital then he "snapped out" of it.
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