S3cretz Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Ok so I figured 80% of the lounges clientèle are students. Most of them dont like blaring music or have vastly different tastes in music so picking a playlist Is hard and unappreciated. But the one thing they like is Tv and lots of it. So i figured why not buy some dvd's(the commerical kind rental shops get for public display and such) Southpark American dad , family guy , adult swim the kind of things most students watch. And put them on a random playlist for the tv's instead of playing Satellite or cable channels. Good Idea bad Idea? Edited September 23, 2011 by S3cretz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorlyfish Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I think taste in TV varies almost as much as music taste. Being a college student myself, I go to a lounge (on rare occasion now that I've had my own pipe a while, but same principles apply at home) either to socialize with other people or to have some quiet relaxing time to myself - I've written a few papers in lounges, for example. I want quiet music in the background, I want to be able to hear or think over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalsmoke Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I am also a student, and when i go to a lounge im not looking to watch tv. I can do that at home with my own hookah and sit on my couch. When i go to a lounge i like to sit back with a few friends and enjoy my smoke and talk to them and socialize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grock Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The hookah bar around here turns into a club anyway on weekends. So music is blaring. Not a huge fan of it on the weekends. Although on the weekdays, its pretty quiet and relaxing. How I think a hookah bar is supposed to be. If I had my choice of music on weekdays I'd definitely play some down-temp or trip hop in the back ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Im not going to force anyone to watch though the tvs not overly loud. So youd have to sit close to it to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalanta Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 The two lounges I've been to have been either to do henna or watch friends bellydance. So they have been definately middle eastern. The tvs showed middle eastern shows and videos, the music (when the dancers weren't dancing) was not too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaalpha22 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 You can actually get into a lot of trouble for this....unless you have the expressed written consent of the company who distributes the DVDs. If you were talking about just having the TV on, yeah, that's ok, because you're paying for the expressed written consent. But, you can't show DVDs of shows in establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't think it'd go over too well, especially if you played just those kinds of DVDs. Instead, I see it being better to play a news channel, mute it, and have the captions on. But on game nights (whatever sport), turn on the game. Have a certain spot in the lounge with the game on so that those who could care less about it don't have to be around those people or the TV. Also, I'm sure you could honor requests of what to turn the TV to if people asked (at your discretion, keeping other customers in mind). Also, what Omega said above me. It's actually illegal to publicly show the DVDs. Copyright laws and such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 [quote name='omegaalpha22' timestamp='1316832115' post='524968'] You can actually get into a lot of trouble for this....unless you have the expressed written consent of the company who distributes the DVDs. If you were talking about just having the TV on, yeah, that's ok, because you're paying for the expressed written consent. But, you can't show DVDs of shows in establishments. [/quote] Read the op : (the commerical kind rental shops get for public display and such) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 What chris said, specially about having games and such on a TV (or a projector screen even) in a designated area! This will always bring in a certain crowd for these events. As for playing DVDs constantly I would say thats not the best idea, rather have maybe like theme nights where you have family guy or something like that on for a few eps maybe? Cos having them run all the itme would mean that you would sooner or later go through all of them and also I find it hard to concentrate on other stuff if theres a show on (with music you can just send it to the back of your mind but a show with visual and audible stimulus just pulls my concentration towards it/away from conversation etc.). I would recommend chillaxed music thats not too loud, an important note being that you need to have the speakers arranged perfectly cos you do not want some parts to be way quieter than others (unless if its intentional and well done). Ive been to several places where one corner is booming and the other is just right, but then the guys in the loud corner either have to yell and be unsatisfied customers or they can turn down volume but then no one but them gets to listen to the music. In my opinion the music volume in a relaxing hookah spot would have to be loud enough to make me not pay attention to what people at other tables are saying yet I can speak in my normal speaking voice to my friends around the same table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 TV's are bad if you put soemthing to watch like a show on. It distracts people for conversation, it keeps people from leaving and freeing up a space if they ware wating for the show to end but are done smoking, and not everyone likes the same shows. I had a tv at Hookah Bliss that was given to me by a regular. I put it on for local college sports, the superbowl, and occasionally soccer. Other than that it was off and my custom music mix was on. A song you dont like is over in 3-5 minutes, a show..30 minutes min. my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaalpha22 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 [quote name='S3cretz' timestamp='1316857621' post='524980'] [quote name='omegaalpha22' timestamp='1316832115' post='524968'] You can actually get into a lot of trouble for this....unless you have the expressed written consent of the company who distributes the DVDs. If you were talking about just having the TV on, yeah, that's ok, because you're paying for the expressed written consent. But, you can't show DVDs of shows in establishments. [/quote] Read the op : (the commerical kind rental shops get for public display and such) [/quote] Still illegal. YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPRESSED WRITTEN CONSENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalanta Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Actually, sponsorting a movie theme night would be cool. Contact [url="http://parks.swank.com/copyright.html"]http://parks.swank.com/copyright.html[/url] for more info. (they're a licensing company) N-E- Way ... The Weather Channel, my favorite background noise. I spent many all-nighters cramming to it. (they used to run a commercial with a bar called THE FRONT that was modeled after a sports bar with weather all the time - loved it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='atalanta' timestamp='1317049167' post='525212'] Actually, sponsorting a movie theme night would be cool. Contact [url="http://parks.swank.com/copyright.html"]http://parks.swank.com/copyright.html[/url] for more info. (they're a licensing company) N-E- Way ... The Weather Channel, my favorite background noise. I spent many all-nighters cramming to it. (they used to run a commercial with a bar called THE FRONT that was modeled after a sports bar with weather all the time - loved it!) [/quote] That actually makes sense theme nights . [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1316872835' post='524993'] TV's are bad if you put soemthing to watch like a show on. It distracts people for conversation, it keeps people from leaving and freeing up a space if they ware wating for the show to end but are done smoking, and not everyone likes the same shows. I had a tv at Hookah Bliss that was given to me by a regular. I put it on for local college sports, the superbowl, and occasionally soccer. Other than that it was off and my custom music mix was on. A song you dont like is over in 3-5 minutes, a show..30 minutes min. my .02 [/quote] Thanks . I Usually do that too just thought maby something different for once would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 the lounge that i go to regularly is the ideal lounge. two big tv's playing movies or sports depending on whos their usually the crowd chooses the movies there's about 500+ movies to choose from almost all blue ray people even buy movies for the lounge and leave them there. also two sections with no tvs but some speakers to plug your music into if you want ot listen if i open the shop up for my buddy i usually sit in the "sun room" front area lots of windows and just mess with my phone or i'll pop a movie on or watch tv. or you can sit outside, there are a couple starbuzz lounges around and they are the club like ones dont go to them unless its early cuas just tvs are on playing sports and its only 5$ a bowl lol and they do a good job on the bowls surprisingly, but i hate it when it gets late cuase its packed lots of bros and what not, i enjoy a relaxing area to socialize i met my gf soon to be wife at that hookah lounge also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeDave Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I think since I don't know much about legalities of copyrighted material, I'll just give a more point-of-view, opinionated response. I would have to keep it simple and agree with Jorly. TV show tastes are in my opinion, even more different and vast than music. Plus, woudl you plan on having music and the tv at the same time? The background noise of a tv or music is for sheer atmosphere. Having just music works fine, but having only tv which appeals to at worst case scenario a 1/4 of your crowd, or both, which in my opinion is just too much background noise, is going to hurt you more than benefit you. (Sorry, I know I said this was going to be kept simple)... Form someone who doesn't run a lounge but helps run a large hookah event, I had half of my crowd leave in the middle of a musical performance all due to the subject matter of the musical material he had. Things like TV and music are a lot more complicated when catering to guests. Saudies like Arabic/Iraqi beats, where are your run of the mill frat boy likes raw rap. You have to find a middle ground, and TV isn't the way to go. my .03 (Just to outdo Mush...teehee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 There are regulations that prohibit broadcasting copyrighted material... movies and pay-per-view are what gets most places in trouble. Here, if you play a PPV choice at a commercial establishment you actually have to pay the list price for the number of seats in your establishment. For example, if you want to put a fight on and its $50 on PPV and you can fit 200 people in your bar then you actually have to pay $10,000. That is usually why the fights are only shown at strip clubs. Some places you can show up to an hour of a movie without have to pay a price. If you do go over an hour there will be fines and/or legal trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajon Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1317388677' post='525824'] For example, if you want to put a fight on and its $50 on PPV and you can fit 200 people in your bar then you actually have to pay $10,000. [/quote] Ya, you have to pay what your fire code limit is, but restaurants don't pay anywhere near $50 a person. Also, I don't like watching funny movies/ shows when I smoke hookah because I always end up coughing up a storm from laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalanta Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Course all this info from us changes drastically if you're not in the United States. International regulations are messy at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='atalanta' timestamp='1317395695' post='525836'] Course all this info from us changes drastically if you're not in the United States. International regulations are messy at best. [/quote] AT least you can find out what your regulations are without waiting three months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Playing videos for your customers is just as subjective as playing music for them or entertaining them in any other way. I used to frequent a lounge that played some music but mostly TV, they had 4 nice HDTVs on each wall. They were all on different channels so you could tune into whatever was interesting, it was great. Great until they started playing extreme sports shows/YouTube clips non-stop on all screens. I never went back! I was turned onto another lounge with a more relaxed atmosphere and a similar layout, including having 4 HDTVs on each wall. But this place had different shows on each screen like sports, news, comedies, and they even ordered a pay-per-view boxing match for a group of customers that were talking about it. That's how I found my favorite lounge, thanks to this thread I'm reminded I really need to make the time to go back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I've never been to a lounge I liked. But I'm sure that'd change if I ever get a chance to get out to Eric's in San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I would occasionally show a movie I thought the children should see on my tv in the bar come to think of it. Always in the late afternoon so it was usually just the regulars anyways, Caveman,Wizards, Animal House, that sorta thing.... What kind of college students have never seen Animal House??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalanta Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Wizards? There's an estoeric movie. It's on my netflix list since BF's never seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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