MrGuy Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Well tonight wasn't good at all.We (me and 2 of my mates) were introducing another person to shisha. Me, a friend (d), my ex girlfriend (j) and a shisha-n00b (s) went to our local shisha bar (arya in huddersfield.) d knows the shisha bar well, he was there on the night it opened and goes at least twice a week every week. so he knows all the staff, and their families an friends personally. Now we've been known to stay in there for upwards of 4 hours smoking, eating, drinking and conversing. But tonight was bad.First, we got there and it was abnormally busy. We sat down and a big family (including kids) sat at the table next to us. So we got dirty looks from the adults and had the kids eying up our hookah all night. It wasn't a great atmosphere as normal for some reason.so we asked for strawberry and mint (it's all el basha by the way) but after conversing with the guy there, he said he wouldnt recommend it because the stawberry is so sweet. so we had just strawberry. It came to us, d got it going, i had a few pulls, it was nice, really REALLY sweet, j had a hit, then we passed it to s (n00b) and she seemed to like it. so all was well. on her second hit, j said she didn't like that flavour much because it was to sweet, so she eased off. d said he was tired and eased off, and s just eased off. So it was left with just mes has a thing for me and j is my ex (we're still a bit close) so it felt like a bit of a bitter atmosphere between us. it was really quiet and even i was finding it hard to start convo's. It being so quiet and arkward, i was smoking the shisha like no tomrow (silly i know.) 15 minutes in, Fahad (owner) brought us some free food and drinks (we're his best customers) so all is good. After about 30 minutes of puffing strawberry like no tomrow, i start feeling a bit warm, so i put the hose down for a bit and soon after developed pin&needles in my hands. wow, i was feeeling realy warm. i went to the toilet to freshen up for a bit, after bein in the 10 minutes, d came and checked on me. i went out sat down and was greeted with "you were in there ages, so we came to the conclusion you were either:1. having a poo2. masturbating3 being sick"i casually responded "all of the above" mainly because i was feeling pretty hot, flustered, shaky and ill. i sat down for a few minutes, had a sip of hot chocolate and decided i need some fresh air. So i went outside alone for a sec. d came out about 5 minutes later. about 10 seconds later he went back in for medical attention because i looked so bad. i was shaking, hot, sweating, breathing heavliy. a few minutes later, i was violently sick 4 times into a near by bin.By now, the medical attention arrived in the form of the owners wife (one of the staff) asking me to come inside. she took me in and layed me down, then forced me to drink sugar and water.Apparently it was all caused by my blood pressure dropping to low and she said i was lucky not to pass out. After a few glasses of water with a few tablespooons of sugar, i felt presentable again, and went back upstairs, just to see them lighting up apple and mint (my favourite, the bastards.) i was still feeling really ill an had been advised not to smoke again so i just sat and watched for a bit. Then we headed home after spending just undre 2 hours in there (very unimpressed)Gutted:( absoloubtly gutted:( i know it was sort of self inflicted (taking about 5 puffs a minute) but still. not good. I wouldn't mind if it was my first or second shisha session ever, but as you all know, i frequent these forums quite a lot and have been smoking a month or 2 now (about 3 - 4 times a week) so i consider myself relatively seasoned and used to the effect of shisha, but this was something else:( and i would have excused it if i had been drinking alcohol (normally i have 1 - 2 beers whilst there) but this time i was only drinking coke and hot chocolate.Has anyone else experienced similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 ow ouch wow you just convinced me to take this all as slowly as i have been, seeing as i've already almost passed out once because of nicotine (but it's because i hadn't eaten) and it was one of the scariest things that has ever happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I've had similar when testing my coals and pushing myself too far. For some reason if I don't drink beer and smoke the hookah it has a worse effect on me. That sounds weird, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpimpitox Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 ive gotten like that twice but not to extent of puking. i hope my session 2nite goes well im concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonsmettle Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 is that what causes you to be sick? low blood pressure? anyways ive been there, me and one freind spent about 3 hours in a hookah lounge (luckily age limit is 18, no kids) smoked about 4 bowls bought ourselves some tobacco from the owner went home and smoked 2 more bowls, just about the same feeling you had excpet i just threw up once and felt a bit better afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 hmm ive seriously never gotten that bad. And on bad days, when its me alone, ill puff almost that much. Dont know why but it doesnt effect me that bad. The only bad one ive ever had, was when i did arond 50 in a row without breathing in between. Room was spinning for an hour or so, but other than that i was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpico Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 First off.. I haven't been here in so long. Hello everyone. Wow. The layout is completely different. Bizarre.Anywho... yeah, I've nearly made myself sick on shisha before, but that's why I've learned to just pass the hose when it comes my way and I'm not feeling so hot. You just gotta take it easy, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Pace seems to be pretty important. My girlfriend started to feel ill last time we smoked. We were passing pretty quick so that may have been it. I think it may also have to do with certain kinds of sweetness in relation to rate of smoking and nicotine content. We were using wine in the base and it was a sort of sickly-sweet alcholic flavor ontop of already sweet Nahkla shisha. Maybe the kind of sweetness of it is what did you all in in combination with the rate at which you smoked the bowl and therefore ingesting nicotine? I'm curious to hear others thoughts on the matter. Obviously some shisha is VERY sweet and people can smoke it just fine. But it is something that seems to be in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 ye i know. i think it was mainly the flavour. when i tried caramel it made me feel a bit sick, because it was so sweet.Ye, its low blood pressure that causes the headrush you get aswell if you stand up to quick (so presumably the head rush from shisha too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
web250 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nakhla has made me sick before, I was pale, had the chills/sweats, very nausesusNicotine problems I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdavid Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I've never had anything like that happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I just get a headache before anything else can happen. I've only thrown up once in my life, and that was from quite extreme circumstances. I don't even really remember it as I blacked out right after. But it sucked because I was studying in Japan at the time and I puked on the power supply to my laptop, frying it about 4 days before I had a 40 page paper and oral presentation due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Too much nicotine, like too much alcohol/weed/heroin/mcdonalds will make you sick.Its all in moderation guys; if you take in a lot of nicotine in a short period of time, don't be suprised if you get sick.A sugary flavor, whatever is in the base, and how much O2 you breathe also make an impact.Smoke more than you breathe and you're gonna get sick once in a while.Just my .02now we need whathisface medical guy to give us his answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 im sure the sweet flavour defintaly contributed, because i can power-puff el basha mint for 15 minutes flat and not feel ill or anything.whathisface = tangiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpimpitox Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 i could do the same for el basha maybe cuz its the "marlboro lights" version of nakhla but the el basha grape still gives me a nice buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Owntt Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Well, now we all know to take it slow when smoking hookah. This might sound kinda messed up, but thanks for taking one for the team. Ive gone sessions where I was smoking really fast, I'm just glad it never got THAT bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiedepot Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 That sucks dude. Hope your next time goes better for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I might do an experiment on what hookah smoking does medically to you over the course of a session. Since I have some pretty good equipment at my disposal, it would be an interesting study I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hmm, it would be interesting to chart the blood pressure through out the session. I'd try this eventually, but I no longer know where my blood pressure cuff is... and sadly, I don't think they'd let me sit at the blood pressure machine at Target and smoke for an hour so I could collect data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malakas Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 This sounds pretty interesting...perhaps a forum wide study is in order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 [quote name='DizzyGuy']I don't think they'd let me sit at the blood pressure machine at Target and smoke for an hour so I could collect data [/quote] That would be mad funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Owntt Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Indeed. Let the research begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I think its crap...something similar happened to a local lounge, who shall remain nameless. They were using stuff to clean their jars that was inappropriate...ie it contained bleach. Some detergents and other cleaners contain bleach even though they don't list it as such, rather as ionic surfactants (although there are othe ionic surfactants that description could fit). Mention it to them. I recommend using water and brushes, beer if necessary...nothing else...whatever else you have to ask your self "Is this OK to put in my lungs?"Additionally, some companies (I doubt El Basha does) use otherwise harmful components in their tobacco flavorings, either unknowingly or uncaringly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 cheers, im quite certain it was the flavours, because ive smoked there many of times with no problems what-so-ever. That was the first time i've ever experienced that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdavid Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Well, we are glad to see that you are OK now. Maybe you should take some time to do a detox of your system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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