Sambo 14 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Does anyone have any other ideas to make smoke thicker? Milk is the only one I have found out so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhookah Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhookah Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I will go ahead and answer the question. The best thing you can do to get thick smoke is to master your technique. Learn to pack the bowl just right for each type of tobacco. Work on your heat management, find the limit. I usually run right on the edge of too much heat. If you really want to experiment there are some very unique methods that are supposed to get huge smoke, saw one guy put just a small bit of shisha in his bowl and get clouds along the lines of what I get, was pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I strongly advise against putting milk in the vase. As Joel said, perfecting your heat management (how many holes you poke and how big they are, how many coals you use, and where you place said coals on the bowl) and packing the bowl correctly (should be full to the rim, fluffy in a standard bowl, or tight in a phunnel bowl) is key to getting the thick smoke you seek, young grasshoppa. [img]http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/1/12/55aed7a6-62f0-4b27-88ed-51cc01699710.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magick777 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 First, welcome to the forum... Start by trying different brands of shisha; some produce thicker smoke than others. If it's thick smoke you want and you're fairly new to hookah, then something from the Tangiers Lucid line ought to give you an easy life. Then try different brands and types of coal; Nakhla and Desi Murli respond well to the extreme heat of hardwood coals; Tangiers requires less heat and smokes well with coconut coals. Then consider a bigger, wider, flatter bowl - all other things being equal, more volume of tobacco under more area of coal produces more smoke and more flavour, and it makes heat management easier. Then look at the air flow on your pipe; if the stem draws easier than the hose does, you'll pull more smoke by upgrading to a wide bore hose. Feel free to have a look round the forum; there are a number of beginners' guides and information on how to get the most from your hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlec Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 you want thick smoke? smoke tangiers and spend some time learning how to pack and manage heat correctly. Want to make your hookah and hoses smell like moldy cheese keep putting milk in that base... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 yah thick smoke isn't always something i shoot for but it is a plus, i like seeing it to but as long as it smokes good enough im happy but i have no issues with it but just packing and coals are the way to get it going right also try warmer water will bring out flavor and a bit thicker smoke if you have issues, but not boiling just thicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Good heat management, 3 coals + typically will result in thicker smoke, but you will need to make sure you are not burning your shisha in the process. Stay away from putting milk or other liquids than water in the base to smoke, it can cause some nasty cleanliness issues later on. And @ joel, this is the right section as it has to do with the discussion of liquids used for smoking hookah... not thinks like carving pumpkins etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhookah Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 @ 13lack, no you are wrong, this was originally in the "Show Your Stuff Section" but it has since been moved. I know it's not the norm, but once you get the hang of smoking, I would suggest using 3 coconaras on a phunnel bowl. It requires more maintenance, but really smokes well if you stay on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13lackFish Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='joelhookah' timestamp='1320116917' post='529666'] @ 13lack, no you are wrong, this was originally in the "Show Your Stuff Section" but it has since been moved. I know it's not the norm, but once you get the hang of smoking, I would suggest using 3 coconaras on a phunnel bowl. It requires more maintenance, but really smokes well if you stay on top of it. [/quote] Ah things to be noted then. And I would agree with Joels comment above, 3 on a phunnel works brilliantly when managed correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelios Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='A13lackFish' timestamp='1320117250' post='529669'] [quote name='joelhookah' timestamp='1320116917' post='529666'] @ 13lack, no you are wrong, this was originally in the "Show Your Stuff Section" but it has since been moved. I know it's not the norm, but once you get the hang of smoking, I would suggest using 3 coconaras on a phunnel bowl. It requires more maintenance, but really smokes well if you stay on top of it. [/quote] Ah things to be noted then. And I would agree with Joels comment above, 3 on a phunnel works brilliantly when managed correctly. [/quote] True that. I JUST found this out last night. I had a spare lit coal from an old session and saved it for the next one. Lit two fresh coals and had the old working coal on the same phunnel and damn! Thick cloudage!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhookah Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yeah, the key to thick clouds is max heat without going harsh. That's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zildjian Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote] it aids in building strong bones. 100000000000000000 REP PTS PLZ LOLOLOLOL 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='Zildjian' timestamp='1320177288' post='529787'] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote] it aids in building strong bones. 100000000000000000 REP PTS PLZ LOLOLOLOL [/quote] +1 because I like to hear you beg for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 [quote name='Zildjian' timestamp='1320177288' post='529787'] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote] it aids in building strong bones. 100000000000000000 REP PTS PLZ LOLOLOLOL [/quote] Milk often times does the opposite because the high protein leeches the calcium out of the bones and without adequate levels of magnesium our bodies can not absorb the calcium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhookah Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The More You Know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote]I think Stuie had a theory regarding the ability of milk to maintain a colder temperature longer or maybe achieve a colder temperature due to viscosity or density of said liquid. Seemed plausible, however I think any increase in vapor density is neglible...or at the very least, more trouble than it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='joelhookah' timestamp='1320190496' post='529840'] The More You Know [/quote] the less you find you care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1320195238' post='529850'] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote]I think Stuie had a theory regarding the ability of milk to maintain a colder temperature longer or maybe achieve a colder temperature due to viscosity or density of said liquid. Seemed plausible, however I think any increase in vapor density is neglible...or at the very least, more trouble than it's worth. [/quote] and temp is the thing that controls thickness of the smoke? scuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320195820' post='529853'] [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1320195238' post='529850'] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1320177033' post='529786'] i am still waiting for someone to prove that milk does anything other than mess up your stuff. [/quote]I think Stuie had a theory regarding the ability of milk to maintain a colder temperature longer or maybe achieve a colder temperature due to viscosity or density of said liquid. Seemed plausible, however I think any increase in vapor density is neglible...or at the very least, more trouble than it's worth. [/quote] and temp is the thing that controls thickness of the smoke? scuse me? [/quote]If we are to believe that the "smoke" is actually water vapor, then I would say yes. As water vapor cools, it's density increases...and I think it's safe to assume that the temp doesn't cool enough to turn the vapor into liquid and then a solid (which would decrease it's density). Edited November 2, 2011 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Drat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mushrat Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 seriously though, I think a controlled experiment is in order. Plus a little reading up in physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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