Hassouni Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 So, this has been bugging me. We that started smoking back when there was just Nakhla and AF know that Fakher grape and royal grape were the best flavors EVER. Sweet, slightly sour, with an amazing hit of blackcurrant. THICK thick taste. As is now well know, AF grape sucks. Has any of the dozens of competitor companies come close to reproducing the awesomeness of several years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I can't say whether or not I have had the grape you are missing. I have never had a problem with AF grape bit maybe because I don't know what I'm missing. Have you tried Tangiers Static Starlight? I know it is a different flavor from what you described above but to me it tasted like grape big league chew. A good strong purple grape flavor with just a hint of rose to smooth out the rough edges. It might no be a directit replacement for the old AF grape, but maybe you won't miss it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Doesn't Elmas or Rosanna make a grape? If so, I'm sure it is hella bomb. As for my personal experience with grape flavors, AF grape was the worst. I had it first in 2009, which is shortly after it went downhill from what I understand. Tasted like ketchup, about made me barf all over the place. Nakhla Mizo Grape is another that I tried that was not enjoyable. Not as bad as AF grape, but not much better. Still couldn't stomach it, tasted like ketchup. I don't like smoking ketchup! Now the best grape flavor I have ever had is Tangiers Static Starlight. Excellent blend of grape, lemon, and rose, with the grape being the most dominant. It is a flavor that will have you drooling and wanting to smoke it bowl after bowl. So delish. Coming right in at second place is Tangiers White Grape. Had this one back in the day when Jayman sent me my very first Tangiers sampler pack. It was Noir I believe, but it is also now available retail in Lucid. So if you haven't, definitely pick up these two. They won't be exactly like the old AF grape you crave, but I promise you they will be quite enjoyable. Also, has anyone tried Nakhla El Basha Grape? I always meant to, but never got around to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Sadly, I haven't had any grapes that come close. I didn't think Nakhla's Mizo grape was too bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1324711511' post='533720'] Also, has anyone tried Nakhla El Basha Grape? I always meant to, but never got around to it... [/quote] I've got some el basha grape. It's not bad but nothing to write home about. Don't go out of your way to get some, but if it falls in your lap, go ahead and try it. It won't replace your Tang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Good to know. Thanks, Ashley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I have Tangiers white grape. It's not as good as old AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Static Starlight is the ONLY grape flavor that's treated me properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floataround Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 The only grape type I have had was fantasia purple haze. Reminded me of a purple tootsie roll pop. Can't say I would buy it again. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Tangiers White Grape is the only grape flavor with a similiar taste to AF Grape that I have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Tangiers WG doesn't have the same lightness, if that makes sense...the AF Golden grape (which was actually my favorite) actually tasted a lot like blackcurrants, or for those in the UK, exactly like Ribena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 AL Masah Grape (White Grape) problem is I have only seen it for sale in the EU. Last time I ordered it was UK before their shisha laws....it was just like old AF Grape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Okay, let's gather a 100 or so people to email Al fakher's head office, telling them how hard their AF grape sucks these days and tell them to bring back the old AF grape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1324899062' post='533832'] Okay, let's gather a 100 or so people to email Al fakher's head office, telling them how hard their AF grape sucks these days and tell them to bring back the old AF grape! [/quote] I'm totally for this plan, just so I can see what all the "old grape" hype is all about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The closest you'll get is probably Tangiers White Grape, but it definitely isn't the same. Next would probably be Tangiers Sour Grape if I remember correctly, but not entirely positive. The last resort is AF Golden Grape, which is a lot more perfumey, but still a good flavor. I actually have no issues with AF Grape flavorwise, however there's this weird texture with all AF, that's very unappealing. It sort of makes your mouth dry/tacky and the smoke feels grainy. I pretty much stopped smoking AF since I noticed the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1324944723' post='533876'] The closest you'll get is probably Tangiers White Grape, but it definitely isn't the same. Next would probably be Tangiers Sour Grape if I remember correctly, but not entirely positive. The last resort is AF Golden Grape, which is a lot more perfumey, but still a good flavor. I actually have no issues with AF Grape flavorwise, however there's this weird texture with all AF, that's very unappealing. It sort of makes your mouth dry/tacky and the smoke feels grainy. I pretty much stopped smoking AF since I noticed the change. [/quote] you know.. I've noticed this too, but I've always disregarded it thinking its just me.. hmmm.. no me gusta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidget Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I don't think I ever had AF Grape before the flavor change. In regards to favorite grapes, I really like Starbuzz Acid - Purple (Yes I said it). It taste just like grape bubble-licious chewing gum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='squidget' timestamp='1324947902' post='533896'] I don't think I ever had AF Grape before the flavor change. In regards to favorite grapes, I really like Starbuzz Acid - Purple (Yes I said it). It taste just like grape bubble-licious chewing gum. [/quote] I've only had the red and orange (maybe yellow) acid flavors.. I did like them, much more than the usual overly sweet and obnoxiously fruity flavors I'm used to from SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1324944723' post='533876'] The closest you'll get is probably Tangiers White Grape, but it definitely isn't the same. Next would probably be Tangiers Sour Grape if I remember correctly, but not entirely positive. The last resort is AF Golden Grape, which is a lot more perfumey, but still a good flavor. I actually have no issues with AF Grape flavorwise, however there's this weird texture with all AF, that's very unappealing. It sort of makes your mouth dry/tacky and the smoke feels grainy. I pretty much stopped smoking AF since I noticed the change. [/quote] Sour grape tastes like the grape from Static Starlight, more straight forward and intereting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Amaren has a very similar taste not spot on but similar. [url="http://www.arabicastore.com/category_details.aspx?id=12&sid=47"]http://www.arabicastore.com/category_details.aspx?id=12&sid=47[/url] Oh and Stuie you can get amaren here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 Arabic is about 15 mins from my house, I was going to go there soon, actually. Yeah, there grape is not the same either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Do me a favor, when you are there check if they still have that deal on hookahs. I got one of the big brass ones and it is great. I want to go back and get the other two styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Does Royal still make that grape? I get royal locally and today I asked for their grape tobacco because I remembered this thread and the guy handed me something called "Grape Delight". Bought it home and smelled it, it was nothing like grape! Just a cool minty flavour very very similar to afzal pan rasna if you've tried that and which I am tired of finding rebranded by various brands. Didn't even bother smoking it and threw it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy Oma Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1324764068' post='533754'] Tangiers WG doesn't have the same lightness, if that makes sense...the AF Golden grape (which was actually my favorite) actually tasted a lot like blackcurrants, or for those in the UK, exactly like Ribena [/quote] Thats the perfect description - blackcurrants. The closest we could come to describing oldschool AF Grape, during a recent discussion at my house, was "kinda raisin kinda not". Had a flashback to the AF grape flavor that I remember, circa 1990-ish, when smoking golden esk apple and AF cinnamon together. Got a hint of currant from that mix somehow. No other grape commonly available comes close imo. edit - just noticed that my profile gender is default male - changing that Edited December 29, 2011 by Judy Oma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlec Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Mizo Grape is hit or miss for me sometimes. Tangiers White Grape is bomb. Anything else I wouldn't know about because I only smoke AF, Nak and Tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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