Gingerbot Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 hey, new to forums, just moved up from a small mod to a Nammor Ramses III and having some trouble getting the bowls just right. I've watched/read all of those guides of how to pack certain bowls, tips on heat management, etc. setup: Nammor Ramses III Vortex bowl Coconara flats ice water (usually) standard Nammor Hose with my friends Egyptian Furat we just simply put 2 or 3 coco flats and pack the vortex bowl normally (sprinkled/slightly packed) and it hits perfect and smooth within a few hits, with my nammor i tried using the same set up and it not only takes close to 5 minutes to get it smoking like a chimeny, but then it only stays that way for a few minutes and losses most of the smoke output as well as gets harsh. i can tweak around with the coals and get it smooth again.. but only stays that way for a few minutes again. i had just finished smoking a bowl of Al Tawareg Cali. Dream, was amazing for bout 20 minutes, then i just couldn't get it back to being smooth with thick smoke again. As well as if i let is sit for more than 2 minutes my base had lost all of the smoke that was built up. i checked my purge valve to see if it was stuck open as well as tried using my "monster can wind cover" to retain more heat, but the base just couldnt hold any smoke for more than a minute or so. if you have any helpful advice it would be greatly appreciated. Just a new comer to large hookah's searching for that "perfect bowl." if you need any more info let me know.. im just chilling here with my friend, smoking some hookah and listening to some music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 too much to read but from the title name im gonna say my tip to go from small to big is Viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbot Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 lol... i think Ron Jeremy makes some stuff that can do just what i want.... on topic: maybe i should have put a TL:DR at the end lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 First make sure you have no leaks in the hookah. Take the bowl off and put your hand over where the bowl goes. Then take a hit, if you can then you have a leak somewhere. Now if you have leaks fix them. If there is a leak where the stem goes to the base. Electrical tape under the gasket can fix it. Once all the leaks are fixed time to move to step 2. Throw away the vortex and use an eqyptian or a phunnel. Why do i say this? Because the vortexs have horrible hole placement as well as bad qc and your holes could be plugged. step 2.5 forget the ice water, just use reg cold water ice is not necessary and on some brands of tobacco (Tangiers) it can cause you to lose flavor. Step 3 make sure your coals are FULLY lite and flip them every once in a while. It honestly sounds like this is your biggest problem. What shisha are you trying to smoke the most? Have you tried a different brand? The brands I recommend for noobs are Al-Fahker and Nakhla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbot Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 I was only smoking the Al Tawareg because i wanted to try it since i got it for free with the hookah lol.. i usually smoke Fantasia and some Starbuzz, have been wanting to try Al-Fahker since the reviews seem to be awesome and the price is pretty good. I have the bowl that came with the Nammor.. though not sure if its an actual egyptian bowl since the holes seem sloppily done. I did the leak check could draw from it slightly... if i blow into the hose as if to purge the base i get some air that comes out of the hose right by the stem.. so thinking my nammor hose is leaking a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 thats just the gasket for the hose. A trick is to put the gasket in the hose port lightly then push the nammor tip in and turn it slightly. Nammors usually leak from where the hose meets the handle. Use the bowl that came with the nammor. Most eqyptian bowls look like shit. But they smoke well. When I smoked stuff besides tangiers I would pack it in the egyptian about 1/8 in over the top lightly and then tap it down with my finger level to the bowl rim. Try it out. Depending on the size of the bowl you will need between 2-3 cocos. Hop into Tiny Chat on here if you have a webcam. We can help you better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbot Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 attempted to reply already, but shitty internet is shitty... so second attempt here we go thanks for the tips.. started a bowl using the one that came with the hookah... seems to be a worlds apart from the vortex.. in a good way.. smoking like a champ with tons of flavor and base is building up smoke perfectly.. using 3 coco's with fantasia shisha thanks again for helping.. (smiley face) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 no problem. Best thing to do is KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) the bowls with exception of a phunnel that promise more smoke yada yada yada are full of shit. Practice with your heat management without a windcover you will get better much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 welcome to the forum and it seems wade fixed ur problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbot Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 thanks, and yes.. it reassured me that getting this hookah was a good idea.. had my doubts at first but figured it was user error lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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