Arcane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) I agree with mush and camel. As a member of HF, I wouldn't like someone saying they represent this community especially when they hold no management status, let alone administrative. I think it's similar to going around saying I represent Starbucks because I've been a patron for 3 years. And though the ad policy has changed, I do respect the fact that most of the reviews on this site are just people posting their opinions of their accord. In fact, I distinctly remember mush turning down free products to review...citing ethical (or some other crazy mush tendency) reasons. Crazy ol' mushrat.... Edited February 10, 2012 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Instead of asking for free samples, why not just buy the 50g size? Just this past week at a small tobacco store I found Al Waha and Romman 50g boxes for 99 cents each. I figured for that price I could "sample" a bunch of different flavors. Wound up buying 14 of them. Surely other tobacco stores periodically have similar sales. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1328911638' post='538600'] Instead of asking for free samples, why not just buy the 50g size? Just this past week at a small tobacco store I found Al Waha and Romman 50g boxes for 99 cents each. I figured for that price I could "sample" a bunch of different flavors. Wound up buying 14 of them. Surely other tobacco stores periodically have similar sales. [/quote]I think "free" is the key figure. A majority of today's hookah smokers/reviewers seem to be in the younger generation...and have a severely limited income. So, even the $5 order that could have just as easily been lost by another person could've meant ramen noodles and hot dogs for the week for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelLCP Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Gettings samples is rare. And usually the company contacts YOU asking you if you want samples. Out of all the reviews on my channel, the only thing I got for free was the Shiazo Steam Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I do remember scrimping by on nearly nothing in college. How about buying 50g per week? Or smoking with friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Arcane' timestamp='1328912685' post='538602'] [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1328911638' post='538600'] Instead of asking for free samples, why not just buy the 50g size? Just this past week at a small tobacco store I found Al Waha and Romman 50g boxes for 99 cents each. I figured for that price I could "sample" a bunch of different flavors. Wound up buying 14 of them. Surely other tobacco stores periodically have similar sales. [/quote]I think "free" is the key figure. A majority of today's hookah smokers/reviewers seem to be in the younger generation...and have a severely limited income. So, even the $5 order that could have just as easily been lost by another person could've meant ramen noodles and hot dogs for the week for someone else. [/quote] Very true Jay. When I started out in college, we all pitched in and made like $35 orders... to this day I will never eat Raman again...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 May I suggest another option? I check reviews frequently when I'm in the mood or market to try something new and I try new stuff, especially tobacco A LOT. But doing a review? Major pain in the ass if you ask me. Even typing something out (and I type 95 wpm) I put off and put off and put off. So since reviewers are really doing us lazy folk a service, why not somehow put a list of what you'd like to review either on your profile or maybe a pinned thread? Then when someone (like me) has 40 kilos of different kinds of tobacco sitting around home un-reviewed, (seriously I've got LOT of tobacco sitting around), we can check your list and if what we have is on it, we can send you the samples. Throwing a bubble envelope with a baggie sample of tobacco in it in the mail, isn't going to break anybody. Plus, you're not ASKING anybody for anything. And you have zero obligation to review something positively just because it was given to you. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Stuie' timestamp='1328913433' post='538606'] Very true Jay. When I started out in college, we all pitched in and made like $35 orders... to this day I will never eat Raman again...... [/quote] Back when my son started college I bought him a whole case of Ramen noodles. I knew he didn't like them, but I told him that it was his emergency food in case he totally ran out of money. The day he graduated not one package had been removed from the case. I guess it was a perfect incentive to not run out of food or money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) You guys are nuts. Ramen is awesome...with eggs, cooked just enough so the yolk is still runny. Mmmmmm... That may be my dinner tonight! And breakfast & lunch tomorrow.....seriously good. Edited February 11, 2012 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Oh, I like it every once in a while. It's great for backpacking meals. One of my Ramen recipes is even listed here [url="http://www.mattfischer.com/ramen/"]http://www.mattfischer.com/ramen/[/url] Breakfast Ramen - made to taste like grits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I love Ramen. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 If you can't afford a hobbie, dont get into a hobbie. Just saying. And i do occassionally take soemthing free, but you won't see a public review of it. Normally its to provide feedback to the people making the product. I am only human after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1328973253' post='538700'] I am only human after all. [/quote] So, we can quit speculating now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Simply put, I would never trust a review of a free tobacco sample. I'm sure I'm not the only one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Stuie' timestamp='1328818972' post='538438'] Let your reviews speak for themselves. Asking for freebies doesn't work often. Usually when you get them, they want good reviews. Despite the facts. I have been asked this several times. [/quote]Stuie my man has said it all him-self! Your reviews will speak for them self, no company will hand out anything for free unless you your self (Including your Youtube videos) Help make The "Shisha Company" money. Good-luck my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1328915318' post='538625'] May I suggest another option? I check reviews frequently when I'm in the mood or market to try something new and I try new stuff, especially tobacco A LOT. But doing a review? Major pain in the ass if you ask me. Even typing something out (and I type 95 wpm) I put off and put off and put off. So since reviewers are really doing us lazy folk a service, why not somehow put a list of what you'd like to review either on your profile or maybe a pinned thread? Then when someone (like me) has 40 kilos of different kinds of tobacco sitting around home un-reviewed, (seriously I've got LOT of tobacco sitting around), we can check your list and if what we have is on it, we can send you the samples. Throwing a bubble envelope with a baggie sample of tobacco in it in the mail, isn't going to break anybody. Plus, you're not ASKING anybody for anything. And you have zero obligation to review something positively just because it was given to you. 'Rani [/quote] thats not to bad of an idea, one forum member to another instead manufacture to you is a little to biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelLCP Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1328915318' post='538625'] May I suggest another option? I check reviews frequently when I'm in the mood or market to try something new and I try new stuff, especially tobacco A LOT. But doing a review? Major pain in the ass if you ask me. Even typing something out (and I type 95 wpm) I put off and put off and put off. So since reviewers are really doing us lazy folk a service, why not somehow put a list of what you'd like to review either on your profile or maybe a pinned thread? Then when someone (like me) has 40 kilos of different kinds of tobacco sitting around home un-reviewed, (seriously I've got LOT of tobacco sitting around), we can check your list and if what we have is on it, we can send you the samples. Throwing a bubble envelope with a baggie sample of tobacco in it in the mail, isn't going to break anybody. Plus, you're not ASKING anybody for anything. And you have zero obligation to review something positively just because it was given to you. 'Rani [/quote] Pretty good idea if you ask me. It's worth giving a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewhite92 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Rani' timestamp='1328915318' post='538625'] May I suggest another option? I check reviews frequently when I'm in the mood or market to try something new and I try new stuff, especially tobacco A LOT. But doing a review? Major pain in the ass if you ask me. Even typing something out (and I type 95 wpm) I put off and put off and put off. So since reviewers are really doing us lazy folk a service, why not somehow put a list of what you'd like to review either on your profile or maybe a pinned thread? Then when someone (like me) has 40 kilos of different kinds of tobacco sitting around home un-reviewed, (seriously I've got LOT of tobacco sitting around), we can check your list and if what we have is on it, we can send you the samples. Throwing a bubble envelope with a baggie sample of tobacco in it in the mail, isn't going to break anybody. Plus, you're not ASKING anybody for anything. And you have zero obligation to review something positively just because it was given to you. 'Rani [/quote] That sounds like a GREAT idea. I would pay shipping and everything! I'll get on making that list. No obligations to anyone to offer to send anything, of course. At the very least, I'll end up using it as a tool to add a sort of method to the madness so I have at least an idea of what I want to review. Thanks, Rani! Also wanted to add that I would NEVER call myself a representative of this forum, or anything else that I don't personally own or have permission from the owner to do so. But I think we're past that whole issue! Edited February 16, 2012 by Ewhite92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewhite92 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 So thanks to some advice from Rani, I decided that maybe we can start a topic for people to post brands and flavours they want to try and review so that it doesn't require looking at people's profiles and digging around for the list. I had a few questions: First, should the thread go into the trades section since a transaction is technically happening or should it go into a the reviews section or the general discussion board? Second, how do people pay for shipping when they are not sending it? (Also how do you ensure that it's getting paid for or that the shipper is being reimbursed for the shipping costs.) Anyone interested should throw in any suggestions! Mods: If such a thread would violate any rules, let me know as I don't want to break them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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