Coyote Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 [color=#333333][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font=tahoma][size=3]We have discovered that this method drastically (if not completely) reduces the need for 4/20 acclimation. Tangiers comes in vacuum sealed bags. When the seal is broken, the juice is pulled away from the tobacco, separating it and causing the particles to become unstable. Traditionally, we stir the tobacco mixture once it is out of the bag in order to reincorpate and redistribute the mixture. We then allow it to rest so that the particles time to become stable again in their new environment. If we [/size][/font][/font][/color][b]squish the bag a bunch to incorporate the juice as thoroughly as possible before breaking the seal we have noticed that the tobacco needs no acclimation.[/b][color=#333333][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font=tahoma][size=3] I have found that most Tangiers smokers using this method have the highest success rate by squishing for at least 2 minutes. [/size][/font][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font=tahoma][size=3]Let me know if this works for you guys. I would like to hear some feedback on how this works in areas that have reported acclimation difficulty and also on the more humidity sensitive flavors such as grapefruit and classic raspberry.[/size][/font][/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well i dont have any noir yet, but I did open a bag of lucid Orange soda. last night. kneeded the bag for about 2 minutes (maybe minute 30) and then cut it open. I almost always have to acclimate everything lucid or noir. Maybe this just was the perfect day to open and didn't really need to do all that but Im thinking it couldn't hurt. So after dumping the bag and sealing up the container i left it over night. SMoked it about an hour ago and it was just fine. great flavor no harshness to it. long story short im going to be trying this with every bag i get tomorrow. bump for tangiers goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSmokes Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I typically don't have a problem with just opening and smoking but I'm going to see if this helps improve flavor. I have an unopened cactus fruit lucid and have been smoking my opened one so I'll see if the flavor changes when I try this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floataround Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I had no luck with Noir until I was taught this a few weeks ago. Sense then I have ordered multiple packs and everything has been perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAK1791 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm excited to try this out, as soon as i have an empty tupperware to put a pack in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Sounds good but I don't need to acclimate it but I'm sure it would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I tried it today it seems to work, or at least help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just tested this out with a new bag of Cool Strawberry. Smoking fresh out of the bag, and it's great. Usually acclimation is fairly easy here, so my test may not be a good indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one important Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 So I just did this technique with a fresh bag of noir mimon for about 3 minutes, works great! A little harsh, but hardly noticeable. Most likely didn't pack it that well cause I was excited to see how well this works out but I am letting the rest of the batch sit out for an hour in my tupperware just in case. Other than that right when I cut it open I could smell the mimon perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I have some Tangiers coming in Thursday. I'll try it out and let ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRSX Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Funny part to this is, I've always done this with all my tobaccos. Just figured there was flavor in that juice that I didn't want to loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one important Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='ChicagoRSX' timestamp='1329805540' post='539765'] Funny part to this is, I've always done this with all my tobaccos. Just figured there was flavor in that juice that I didn't want to loose. [/quote] Lol same here, just never to the extent (especially with tangiers) that I was doing it for three minutes for the sole purpose of acclimation. Works great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhineholt Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This.... is... GROUND BREAKIND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasKM Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Damn, now I'm going to have to make a new order to try this out.. I'm broke enough as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Because Tangiers is a more natural product with more volatile flavorings, I've always stored in in squeezed down baggies inside plastic tubs. So pulling out the baggie and squishing it around has always been my mixing method. Plus living 2 hours north of where it's made, acclimation has never once been an issue for me. I was always astonished when people said they had a hard time with Tangiers because it smoked perfectly for me from the first bag Eric ever gave me. So maybe the "coincidence" of it working so well for me has to do with the way I just happen to store and use it. Nice to know there might be some science behind it instead of just dumb luck. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmon Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 When I buy my Tangiers it comes in another container (standard circular shallow 1" tub) but I could put what I have over to a ziplock and mash it up and then return it back to it tub. I wonder what Eric's Thoughts are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='Kmon' timestamp='1329849436' post='539817'] When I buy my Tangiers it comes in another container (standard circular shallow 1" tub) but I could put what I have over to a ziplock and mash it up and then return it back to it tub. I wonder what Eric's Thoughts are? [/quote] If its repackaged "wich it isint supposed to be" then it should be pre accimilated to to local area if the vendor is worth their salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='S3cretz' timestamp='1329850135' post='539818'] [quote name='Kmon' timestamp='1329849436' post='539817'] When I buy my Tangiers it comes in another container (standard circular shallow 1" tub) but I could put what I have over to a ziplock and mash it up and then return it back to it tub. I wonder what Eric's Thoughts are? [/quote] If its repackaged "wich it isint supposed to be" then it should be pre accimilated to to local area if the vendor is worth their salt. [/quote] yeah,sounds like re-packaging it. Care to postw here u get it from and do they tell you that ur supposed to acclimate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 [quote name='Kmon' timestamp='1329849436' post='539817'] When I buy my Tangiers it comes in another container (standard circular shallow 1" tub) but I could put what I have over to a ziplock and mash it up and then return it back to it tub. I wonder what Eric's Thoughts are? [/quote] Instant Acclimation will only work on vacuumed sealed packs. Guess Hookah in Chicago sells Tangiers in 100g tubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasKM Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Has Eric made any comment about this? It'd be interesting to hear his thoughts on it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Never even thought all that squishing of the package I do actually helped acclimate the shisha at all. (was trying to get a wiff of the flavor usually through the plastic) - no wonder it was quite smokeable after doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one important Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Satou' timestamp='1329866414' post='539863'] Never even thought all that squishing of the package I do actually helped acclimate the shisha at all. (was trying to get a wiff of the flavor usually through the plastic) - no wonder it was quite smokeable after doing that. [/quote] Yeah its funny to see over the past few week a couple people basically come out and say that they've been doing this all along haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='zach' timestamp='1329870013' post='539872'] [quote name='Satou' timestamp='1329866414' post='539863'] Never even thought all that squishing of the package I do actually helped acclimate the shisha at all. (was trying to get a wiff of the flavor usually through the plastic) - no wonder it was quite smokeable after doing that. [/quote] Yeah its funny to see over the past few week a couple people basically come out and say that they've been doing this all along haha. [/quote] Yeah, but what's interesting is that we've been doing it by accident and been the same people who don't have Tanigers issues. Kudos to whoever first recognized it was actually a useful obsession on some people's parts! 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlec Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) I've tried this method and while it didn't work I don't blame the method but will warn that the same methods to regular acclimation still apply. The reasoning behind that was it was raining outside and my garage door was cracked a little (I smoke in my garage) and I tried this, no cigar. I'll give it another go tonight since it's been nice and sunny lately. Edited February 22, 2012 by littlec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 im just hoping to have to acclimate less, to not have to do it all is too good to be true for me. I just dont want to have to do 1-3 days of 4/20 over and over again. If it helps speed it up to just 1 session maybe 2 hours open that would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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