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Haha yeah thats the truth! The reason its a couple month is cause just from your current setup your going to find so many different methods to improve your set up that youll be busy for a month and a half, then when you want improvement youll find out about better things. Honestly the hose situation could be done right now, that doesnt take any knowledge its just a good hose that gives big clouds but a good one is atleast 20 bucks so wait till you got the money.
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329986187' post='540123']
Haha yeah thats the truth! The reason its a couple month is cause just from your current setup your going to find so many different methods to improve your set up that youll be busy for a month and a half, then when you want improvement youll find out about better things. Honestly the hose situation could be done right now, that doesnt take any knowledge its just a good hose that gives big clouds but a good one is atleast 20 bucks so wait till you got the money.
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Yeah for sure i was looking at those and the ice hose also was interesting.
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Yeah i mean i know im kinda getting ahead of myself but if you are going to be upgrading your hose, the first one i'd buy is the nammor hose. Classic and works great. as for the mystique ice tip its alright but it kinda takes away from flavor a bit, a little too cold. I like to just use cold tap water and thats enough for me
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329986593' post='540125']
Yeah i mean i know im kinda getting ahead of myself but if you are going to be upgrading your hose, the first one i'd buy is the nammor hose. Classic and works great. as for the mystique ice tip its alright but it kinda takes away from flavor a bit, a little too cold. I like to just use cold tap water and thats enough for me
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Is it bad to be looking on ebay for more hoses?
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987095' post='540127']
I mean I personally wouldnt just because you dont know how damaged and out of condition they are, and the whole hygiene issue comes in to play. a GREAT hose thats cheap like 7 or 8 bucks is the fancy or NU hose. disposable hose, but gives great clouds.
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Hmmm i see. I only buy brand new hoses BTW not used ones for more than obvious reasons.
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987253' post='540130']
Yeah i mean if its new and packaged i dont see a problem with ebay. maybe craigslist since you can meet up in person and stuff to check it for yourself.
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craigslist is even kinda of sketchy. I found a texas hose on ebay that seems interesting 24 bucks. You know when the word " texas " appears in something its gotta be over sized or something haha!
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haah yeah i feel you. if your on ebay id look for nammor tho.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Blue-Nammor-Washable-Hookah-Hose-Genuine-H-S-Hookah-Shisha-com-NEW-NIB-/250994081691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7069bf9b

thats actually a good deal considering large nammor hoses tend to sell for 25 bucks sometimes.
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987636' post='540134']
haah yeah i feel you. if your on ebay id look for nammor tho.

[url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Blue-Nammor-Washable-Hookah-Hose-Genuine-H-S-Hookah-Shisha-com-NEW-NIB-/250994081691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7069bf9b"]http://www.ebay.com/...=item3a7069bf9b[/url]

thats actually a good deal considering large nammor hoses tend to sell for 25 bucks sometimes.
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I saw that but with shipping its close to 25 bucks still
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987095' post='540127']
I mean I personally wouldnt just because you dont know how damaged and out of condition they are, and the whole hygiene issue comes in to play. a GREAT hose thats cheap like 7 or 8 bucks is the fancy or NU hose. disposable hose, but gives great clouds.
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Hoses don't matter much in cloud size, its all about the heat management and packing methods. Just slow down and try to enjoy learning about hookah, then you can be like the rest of us and have "when I started smoking hookah" stories.
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First off I wouldn't recommend that hookah there cheaply made and just bad quality all around. I would have suggested you go with a Mya Bambino or MYa Qt for a good starter hookah that isn't much more (~$40). A nammor hose, or razan hose will be a big upgrade because they are washable and never wear out (minus if the glue breaks which is easily fixable.) As for starter shisha I would recommend AF (Al-Fahker) or Nak (Nakhla). They are both great shishas with ton of flavor. A windcover is not needed but can be a great tool in the long run (It just keeps more heat in). As for bowls I would agree with jess that a cheap egyptian would be the best starting out for you along with foil (the screens dont work well and are just a bad idea in general). Hope this helps
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[quote name='joytron' timestamp='1329985600' post='540105']
Honestly I would just get a chipped discount egyptian bowl, they often are sold for a $1 and work really well. If you plan on getting a new hose, new bowls, and a windcover you might as well just buy a whole new rig as well.
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[quote name='Kathrynx' timestamp='1329989804' post='540137']
[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987095' post='540127']
I mean I personally wouldnt just because you dont know how damaged and out of condition they are, and the whole hygiene issue comes in to play. a GREAT hose thats cheap like 7 or 8 bucks is the fancy or NU hose. disposable hose, but gives great clouds.
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Hoses don't matter much in cloud size, its all about the heat management and packing methods. Just slow down and try to enjoy learning about hookah, then you can be like the rest of us and have "when I started smoking hookah" stories.
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[quote name='cotsi95' timestamp='1329990231' post='540138']
First off I wouldn't recommend that hookah there cheaply made and just bad quality all around. I would have suggested you go with a Mya Bambino or MYa Qt for a good starter hookah that isn't much more (~$40). A nammor hose, or razan hose will be a big upgrade because they are washable and never wear out (minus if the glue breaks which is easily fixable.) As for starter shisha I would recommend AF (Al-Fahker) or Nak (Nakhla). They are both great shishas with ton of flavor. A windcover is not needed but can be a great tool in the long run (It just keeps more heat in). As for bowls I would agree with jess that a cheap egyptian would be the best starting out for you along with foil (the screens dont work well and are just a bad idea in general). Hope this helps
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Agreed, agreed, and agreed. :)
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[quote name='Kathrynx' timestamp='1329989804' post='540137']
[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329987095' post='540127']
I mean I personally wouldnt just because you dont know how damaged and out of condition they are, and the whole hygiene issue comes in to play. a GREAT hose thats cheap like 7 or 8 bucks is the fancy or NU hose. disposable hose, but gives great clouds.
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Hoses don't matter much in cloud size, its all about the heat management and packing methods. Just slow down and try to enjoy learning about hookah, then you can be like the rest of us and have "when I started smoking hookah" stories.
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Thanks kathryn for the input. first you ditch us on tinychat and now this....
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Your hookah, while nice, will not last long. Pumpkins are cheaply made, the water levels are almost impossible to get right because they are so small, and im not sure how stable it will be with any sort of extended height bowl. Call it a Training Hookah. :)

There are times when you get what you pay for for in the hookah world, alas, this is one of them. But it will work and you will learn. :_sheesha2__by_Majunka_aurore:

Welcome and listen to these folks, they know their stuff.....
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[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329985013' post='540096']
[b]Well there's no vapor produced from hookah, just smoke.[/b] But a windcover is useful when youre using a standard egyptian bowl to put on when youre bowl is dying out and it basically gives more heat to keep it going. But the main purpose for a windcover in my opinion is for the vortex. The vortex bowl needs to be heated up for 7-10 minutes before smoking, and I find it a necessity to put the windcover over the vortex bowl to heat it up for 10 minutes before smoking.
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I realize that I just woke up and I'm a little foggy... am I reading this out of context?

The clouds that you pull out of your hose/bamboo are a result of vaporization. Smoke is a result of combustion (cigarette, cigar, pipe).
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[quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1330014142' post='540188']
i seriously have my doubts a namoor will even fit, let alone not [u][b]pull a pumpkin over.[/b][/u]
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[quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1330013719' post='540183']
[quote name='zach' timestamp='1329985013' post='540096']
[b]Well there's no vapor produced from hookah, just smoke.[/b] But a windcover is useful when youre using a standard egyptian bowl to put on when youre bowl is dying out and it basically gives more heat to keep it going. But the main purpose for a windcover in my opinion is for the vortex. The vortex bowl needs to be heated up for 7-10 minutes before smoking, and I find it a necessity to put the windcover over the vortex bowl to heat it up for 10 minutes before smoking.
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I realize that I just woke up and I'm a little foggy... am I reading this out of context?

The clouds that you pull out of your hose/bamboo are a result of vaporization. Smoke is a result of combustion (cigarette, cigar, pipe).
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Thank you i thought i was going alittle crazy too.
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[quote name='Epoch' timestamp='1330020327' post='540209']
[quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1330014142' post='540188']
i seriously have my doubts a namoor will even fit, let alone not [u][b]pull a pumpkin over.[/b][/u]
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Haha i wasnt planning on using a namor for my pumkin to begin with. i was planning on getting a more expensive hookah after my pumkin when im less broke and what not. i dont have much money i barely had 20 bucks for all of this.
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[quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1330005972' post='540160']
Your hookah, while nice, will not last long. Pumpkins are cheaply made, the water levels are almost impossible to get right because they are so small, and im not sure how stable it will be with any sort of extended height bowl. Call it a Training Hookah. :)

There are times when you get what you pay for for in the hookah world, alas, this is one of them. But it will work and you will learn. :_sheesha2__by_Majunka_aurore:

Welcome and listen to these folks, they know their stuff.....
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Yes i am well aware of that. i wasnt planning on my pumpkin hookah being the best in the entire world and last me forever. it was something to get me started and hold me over till i can get a job and what not and buy some more stuff more shisha.
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[quote name='cotsi95' timestamp='1329990231' post='540138']
First off I wouldn't recommend that hookah there cheaply made and just bad quality all around. I would have suggested you go with a Mya Bambino or MYa Qt for a good starter hookah that isn't much more (~$40). A nammor hose, or razan hose will be a big upgrade because they are washable and never wear out (minus if the glue breaks which is easily fixable.) As for starter shisha I would recommend AF (Al-Fahker) or Nak (Nakhla). They are both great shishas with ton of flavor. A windcover is not needed but can be a great tool in the long run (It just keeps more heat in). As for bowls I would agree with jess that a cheap egyptian would be the best starting out for you along with foil (the screens dont work well and are just a bad idea in general). Hope this helps
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And again i barely had 20 bucks for this hookah to begin with.
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If you want a temporary hose upgrade for the pumpkin, check fancy hose...there others that are similar too...disposable, washable hoses that are about $5...they work great on tiny hookahs(I use one on my mya petite)

I don't think I got to say it yet, but welcome to the forum and this great hobby...you will find this place is like an extended family
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[quote name='r1v3th3ad' timestamp='1330028295' post='540225']
If you want a temporary hose upgrade for the pumpkin, check fancy hose...there others that are similar too...disposable, washable hoses that are about $5...they work great on tiny hookahs(I use one on my mya petite)

I don't think I got to say it yet, but welcome to the forum and this great hobby...you will find this place is like an extended family
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you guys are already really really really nice and patient with me and i really appreciate it!!
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