wogsncash Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have just bought some Nak Mizo Apricot, Gum, White Grape and Watermelon and TBH it smokes like shit, except the grape, the flavours are foul and I mean almost unsmokeable. It's the first time I've used Mizo is there anything I should be doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Mizo doesn't need to be acclimated as far as I know. Can you describe your setup? Hookah, coals, bowl, hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 It can't hurt. Acclimation is never a bad idea for any unwashed tobacco. It all has to do with the levels of nicotine i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 As Mush said, it wouldn't hurt. I actually do like to acclimate a few Nakhla flavors. If you acclimate Chocomint, it tones down the mint and brings out the chocolate more. Double Apple, it tones down the anise. Mizo Peach, tones down the "florally" part. Those are just a few. I'm sure there's more that would benefit from acclimation. Now how are you packing it? I know people say you can pack Nak any way you want and it'll smoke good, but I get full flavor only when I pack it pretty tight. I'm on my phone right now, so searching for it would be difficult, but Mattarios2 has a Nakhla tutorial for packing in a phunnel. Search Nakhla Tutorial and put the author as Mattarios2 in the advanced search. That packing method has given me the best results, but I also like Nak out of a small clay Egyptian bowl just as much, packed about the same density... Just gotta make sure you have good airflow. Hope this helps man, and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1330180762' post='540429'] As Mush said, it wouldn't hurt. I actually do like to acclimate a few Nakhla flavors. If you acclimate Chocomint, it tones down the mint and brings out the chocolate more. Double Apple, it tones down the anise. Mizo Peach, tones down the "florally" part. Those are just a few. I'm sure there's more that would benefit from acclimation. [/quote] how long do you acclimtate the Peach to remove m ost of the "floral" taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Whoops, I meant to put that... I just stir it all up good and let it sit out thirty minutes to an hour before I smoke. The longer the more it tones down whatever is you want toned down. That said, I don't really bother too much with acclimating Nakhla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 acclimate as long as it takes to smell right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassouni Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I've never needed to acclimate any Nakhla, but I thought Mizo was washed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 There will always be exceptions but the general rule is acclimate unwashed and don't bother with washed. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1330188244' post='540441'] I've never needed to acclimate any Nakhla, but I thought Mizo was washed? [/quote] Keyword : WAS Nak got lazy and stopped washing mizo a while ago. Still good though. However I cannot 100% confirm this. But there are nicotine notes in there for shure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='S3cretz' timestamp='1330207469' post='540465'] [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1330188244' post='540441'] I've never needed to acclimate any Nakhla, but I thought Mizo was washed? [/quote] Keyword : WAS Nak got lazy and stopped washing mizo a while ago. Still good though. However I cannot 100% confirm this. But there are nicotine notes in there for shure. [/quote] It was El Basha that used to be washed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3cretz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='joytron' timestamp='1330208624' post='540470'] [quote name='S3cretz' timestamp='1330207469' post='540465'] [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1330188244' post='540441'] I've never needed to acclimate any Nakhla, but I thought Mizo was washed? [/quote] Keyword : WAS Nak got lazy and stopped washing mizo a while ago. Still good though. However I cannot 100% confirm this. But there are nicotine notes in there for shure. [/quote] It was El Basha that used to be washed. [/quote] Ah there you go thats it. I knew that nakhla stopped washing something. Just to clarify I can still get Basha but I assure you its not washed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogsncash Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1330164483' post='540419'] Mizo doesn't need to be acclimated as far as I know. Can you describe your setup? Hookah, coals, bowl, hose? [/quote] I have some no name hookah that I picked up in Egypt a few years ago but it smokes like a champion. I have actually put off buying a new one because this thing is great, anyway I digress. I have double foil on a tightly packed vortex using 3 pieces of extruded natural coals, unfortunately Australia is the country time forgot so we can't get coconaras or any coconut coal down hear, anyway I digress gain. That setup is my standard I've used it for years with AF, El Hennaway, AL Mazag, Afzal and regular Nak. But I definately need to acclimatise chocomint as earlier mentioned otherwise the mint kills the chocolate. I'll check out the tutorial by Mattarios2 as well. Anyway thanks for all the advice I'll try a bowl later today and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezxen Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='Hassouni' timestamp='1330188244' post='540441'] I've never needed to acclimate any Nakhla, but I thought Mizo was washed? [/quote] Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='wogsncash' timestamp='1330210087' post='540475'] [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1330164483' post='540419'] Mizo doesn't need to be acclimated as far as I know. Can you describe your setup? Hookah, coals, bowl, hose? [/quote] I have some no name hookah that I picked up in Egypt a few years ago but it smokes like a champion. I have actually put off buying a new one because this thing is great, anyway I digress. I have double foil on a tightly packed vortex using 3 pieces of extruded natural coals, unfortunately Australia is the country time forgot so we can't get coconaras or any coconut coal down hear, anyway I digress gain. That setup is my standard I've used it for years with AF, El Hennaway, AL Mazag, Afzal and regular Nak. But I definately need to acclimatise chocomint as earlier mentioned otherwise the mint kills the chocolate. I'll check out the tutorial by Mattarios2 as well. Anyway thanks for all the advice I'll try a bowl later today and report back. [/quote] I thought Australia banned hookah sales because they considered them drug paraphernalia. Or at least personal importing of them.....or maybe it was new Zealand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1330180762' post='540429'] As Mush said, it wouldn't hurt. I actually do like to acclimate a few Nakhla flavors. If you acclimate Chocomint, it tones down the mint and brings out the chocolate more. Double Apple,[b] it tones down the anise[/b]. Mizo Peach, tones down the "florally" part. Those are just a few. I'm sure there's more that would benefit from acclimation. Now how are you packing it? I know people say you can pack Nak any way you want and it'll smoke good, but I get full flavor only when I pack it pretty tight. I'm on my phone right now, so searching for it would be difficult, but Mattarios2 has a Nakhla tutorial for packing in a phunnel. Search Nakhla Tutorial and put the author as Mattarios2 in the advanced search. That packing method has given me the best results, but I also like Nak out of a small clay Egyptian bowl just as much, packed about the same density... Just gotta make sure you have good airflow. Hope this helps man, and good luck! [/quote] [img]http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/26/128878220967390727.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I find the following BENEFITS FROM ACCLIMATION: MIZO Grape (I don't like this flavor in mizo form but it helps remove an odd flavor that some say tastes like ketchup) Peach (weakens the floral notes) Guava (gets rid of the bitterness you can get when overheated) Watermelon (tones down the sweetness) Apricot (Weakens floral notes) Raspberry (makes it not so damn sweet and more natural tasting) All of the above only need to sit out for about an hour. No nakhla flavor HAS to acclimate, it just makes it taste more accurate. Most of the time I find others who find certain nakhla flavors taste funny, need to acclimate for a bit. The rest of the nakhla flavors are great right out of the box, maybe cherry and apple could use some acclimation too but I don't smoke those in Mizo, only OG so I wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogsncash Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 I thought Australia banned hookah sales because they considered them drug paraphernalia. Or at least personal importing of them.....or maybe it was new Zealand?? You can buy them in some states and you can import them. The main issue is the cost of shisha we pay an insane $400/kg tax on tobacco, Australia is an idiotic nanny state on some issues. But the acclimation worked a treat, many thanks to you all for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Mattarios is back?! woahhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Haha, hey there bud :-) How ya been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 A champion returns to the arena!!! Welcome back (again), John. You really need to stick around so that we may always benefit from your wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 haha, I will try, just remember, all the wisdom I have is from this very forum! I won't forget that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogsncash Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='mattarios2' timestamp='1330403393' post='540771'] haha, I will try, just remember, all the wisdom I have is from this very forum! I won't forget that! [/quote] I used your guide and I have never gotten my funnel bowl to work so well with either Nak or AF. I actually stopped using my funnel altogether because it was never good enough. So many thanks mattarios my life is now more smoky and flavourful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 No problem man, glad I could help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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