navy876 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 How I hate having to depend on that stupid little pill to just fall asleep. Every-time I try to sleep, I end up waking up about an hour or so later. Going down stairs into my kitchen and having to take the damn pill. Ugh! Im starting to think They're addicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizit Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I used to use NyQuil... Until I became resistant to its effects. I can take NyQuil without feeling drowsy, which sucks, because I'm a very light sleeper. It's hard for me to stay asleep. Maybe in awhile I'll lose that resistance, and the effects will have more of an effect. Try taking NyQuil before bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='Quizit' timestamp='1331182341' post='541737'] I used to use NyQuil... Until I became resistant to its effects. I can take NyQuil without feeling drowsy, which sucks, because I'm a very light sleeper. It's hard for me to stay asleep. Maybe in awhile I'll lose that resistance, and the effects will have more of an effect. Try taking NyQuil before bed. [/quote]Will do. See I also have ADHD. I know that has a tole in my fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizit Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I actually think I have a bit of ADHD... Or maybe it's ADD? The one that makes it hard for me to put my thoughts into words. Like, I have no problem typing, but I'm incapable of speaking as effectively as I can type. Anyway, one cap-full of NyQuil used to work for me. Start with that amount before moving on to two cap-fulls. The stuff is bad for your liver, so really don't use it overly often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I would not recommend the NyQuil regiment... Instead, focus on establishing a bed time routine. Something that relaxes you, and eventually your brain will associate it with sleep. It sounds like you're going to bed while you're too worked up. Something simple like: every night at 10:30, make a cup of herbal tea (no caffeine), put on quiet music, turn off the phone and the computer, read a book. Although these are just suggestions, feel free to make it your own. Now, this isn't a miracle cure, and it won't work immediately. But the more often you do it, and the more you stick to a particular time, the more your mind is going to associate these activities with sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I would stay away from any chemical remedies. The things Epoch listed are good suggestions. I'd also suggest complete darkness. I like to turn on C-SPAN and keep the volume such that I can barely hear what's being said. Those dolts even put each other to sleep. Or you could just listen to my mother for about half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 ^^ Routine is what defines us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 melatonin is addictive and is not meant to be a long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Melatonin isn't physically addictive, but you can develop a mental dependency on it just as you can on anything else. The best thing is to find a regular routine as has been mentioned before, but then you run into the same problems. If your routine is disturbed, you can't sleep. It's best of all to learn a mental trick that will work for you. What a couple of my friends use is to actually look inside your head. You know that moment when you close your eyes but your still "seeing"? Try and make that a black screen with nothing moving across it. Just keep wiping away any little flashes of thought until it's perfectly blank. Bingo, instant sleep. Also believe it or not, counting sheep really does work. Or counting backwards from 100. The reason all these things work is that it gives your brain something to do besides forcing sleep and lets your body take over and fall into sleep naturally. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Epoch' timestamp='1331238087' post='541830'] I would not recommend the NyQuil regiment... Instead, focus on establishing a bed time routine. Something that relaxes you, and eventually your brain will associate it with sleep. It sounds like you're going to bed while you're too worked up. Something simple like: every night at 10:30, make a cup of herbal tea (no caffeine), put on quiet music, turn off the phone and the computer, read a book. Although these are just suggestions, feel free to make it your own. Now, this isn't a miracle cure, and it won't work immediately. But the more often you do it, and the more you stick to a particular time, the more your mind is going to associate these activities with sleep. [/quote]Epoch you da man!! Im sure you sleep like a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSmokes Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners. Other things that have helped people I've treated are: 1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.) 2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces) 3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation) 4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat). 5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones). I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992'] 5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners. Other things that have helped people I've treated are: 1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.) 2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces) 3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation) 4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat). 5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones). I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need. [/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331346048' post='541983'] [quote name='Epoch' timestamp='1331238087' post='541830'] I would not recommend the NyQuil regiment... Instead, focus on establishing a bed time routine. Something that relaxes you, and eventually your brain will associate it with sleep. It sounds like you're going to bed while you're too worked up. Something simple like: every night at 10:30, make a cup of herbal tea (no caffeine), put on quiet music, turn off the phone and the computer, read a book. Although these are just suggestions, feel free to make it your own. Now, this isn't a miracle cure, and it won't work immediately. But the more often you do it, and the more you stick to a particular time, the more your mind is going to associate these activities with sleep. [/quote]Epoch you da man!! Im sure you sleep like a baby. [/quote] Actually, I'm an insomniac. And this is how I'd recommend dealing with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 melatonin is fun, i took 6 one time cause i needed to sleep bad after long night of wow lol, i was laying onthe couch watching tv and passed out i woke up like...45 min later and looked at a wall with a picture and it started walking and then i looked at the clock and it kept growing and got so big it coverd the whole wall, then i got up freaking out walked to my bed and i felt like it was eatting me lolol was crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Pavo21' timestamp='1331356676' post='542002'] melatonin is fun, i took 6 one time cause i needed to sleep bad after long night of wow lol, i was laying onthe couch watching tv and passed out i woke up like...45 min later and looked at a wall with a picture and it started walking and then i looked at the clock and it kept growing and got so big it coverd the whole wall, then i got up freaking out walked to my bed and i felt like it was eatting me lolol was crazy [/quote]Geez buddy! What on earth were you doing through out the day that caused you to take six Pills? Epoch, do those remedies work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Back in 2005 I was off from work for nine months having both hips replaced. I discovered that, having nothing to do, I had two wake/sleep cycles a day. It was almost as if I were living two days in the same length of time as one day. I've never heard of such a cycle in the scientific research. Maybe I'm not the only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1331375800' post='542027'] Back in 2005 I was off from work for nine months having both hips replaced. I discovered that, having nothing to do, I had two wake/sleep cycles a day. It was almost as if I were living two days in the same length of time as one day. I've never heard of such a cycle in the scientific research. Maybe I'm not the only one? [/quote]Further explain if you will please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331393115' post='542043'] [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1331375800' post='542027'] Back in 2005 I was off from work for nine months having both hips replaced. I discovered that, having nothing to do, I had two wake/sleep cycles a day. It was almost as if I were living two days in the same length of time as one day. I've never heard of such a cycle in the scientific research. Maybe I'm not the only one? [/quote]Further explain if you will please. [/quote] I think he is saying he took naps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='joytron' timestamp='1331399704' post='542055'] [quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331393115' post='542043'] [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1331375800' post='542027'] Back in 2005 I was off from work for nine months having both hips replaced. I discovered that, having nothing to do, I had two wake/sleep cycles a day. It was almost as if I were living two days in the same length of time as one day. I've never heard of such a cycle in the scientific research. Maybe I'm not the only one? [/quote]Further explain if you will please. [/quote] I think he is saying he took naps. [/quote]Well thats a much better way to put it, now isn't it. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 A six hour nap? Twice a day? In a 24 hour period starting at 2 AM, it was 6 hrs awake, 6 hrs asleep, 6 hrs awake, 6 hrs asleep. No naps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331358788' post='542007'] Epoch, do those remedies work for you? [/quote] That's how I keep my sleeping in check without using any sleeping drugs. Too many brushes with addictions to keep at it. I still go through phases where sleep is poor for a few days every month or so. But all in all, having a "sleep routine" has done wonders for my health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Epoch' timestamp='1331401033' post='542064'] [quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331358788' post='542007'] Epoch, do those remedies work for you? [/quote] That's how I keep my sleeping in check without using any sleeping drugs. Too many brushes with addictions to keep at it. I still go through phases where sleep is poor for a few days every month or so. But all in all, having a "sleep routine" has done wonders for my health. [/quote]Well im glad to hear that for you bud. I slept like a child last night, staying away from electronics an hour before bead. Gramps, I wouldn't be able to do that. ;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Good luck, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 There's always that "medicine" that Michael Jackson was using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy876 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='gramps' timestamp='1331402910' post='542076'] There's always that "medicine" that Michael Jackson was using. [/quote]Im a huge Michael Jackson fan. I'd rather not joke around with his life nor death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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