Melatonin.

[gramps]

I was a fan, too. I don't think Michael would mind; he'd probably be smiling about it.
Such a tragedy to lose a super-talented genius before his time.

[navy876]

[quote name='gramps' timestamp='1331403575' post='542081']
I was a fan, too. I don't think Michael would mind; he'd probably be smiling about it.
Such a tragedy to lose a super-talented genius before his time.
[/quote]YES! I totally agree. Every-Time I smoke, I have to listen to atleast five of his songs.Sometimes I even listen to him for an entire session, but I have pals that come over. & sadly there not as fond about him like I am. I have all his Albums. Including the new one that was recently released. "The Immortal Remix". I think youd very much enjoy it. Really sets the mood, when smoking.

[navy876]

[quote name='Rani' timestamp='1331245479' post='541849']
Melatonin isn't physically addictive, but you can develop a mental dependency on it just as you can on anything else. The best thing is to find a regular routine as has been mentioned before, but then you run into the same problems. If your routine is disturbed, you can't sleep. It's best of all to learn a mental trick that will work for you. What a couple of my friends use is to actually look inside your head. You know that moment when you close your eyes but your still "seeing"? Try and make that a black screen with nothing moving across it. Just keep wiping away any little flashes of thought until it's perfectly blank. Bingo, instant sleep. Also believe it or not, counting sheep really does work. Or counting backwards from 100. The reason all these things work is that it gives your brain something to do besides forcing sleep and lets your body take over and fall into sleep naturally.

'Rani
[/quote]Rani,Rani,Rani,Rani! You created an entire blueprint of what my mind goes through right before I fall asleep. I personally would never be able to explain what you just did. So I know exactly what your talking about. I will try drinking some tea, stop using electronics an hour prior before bed, and counting sheep or counting backwards from one hundred.

[Chreees]

I read a book, or something on my iPhone, such as the FML app or the CNN app. Eventually my eyes get so heavy I just fall right to sleep.

[mustang67n]

[quote name='Rani' timestamp='1331245479' post='541849']
Melatonin isn't physically addictive, but you can develop a mental dependency on it just as you can on anything else. The best thing is to find a regular routine as has been mentioned before, but then you run into the same problems. If your routine is disturbed, you can't sleep. It's best of all to learn a mental trick that will work for you. What a couple of my friends use is to actually look inside your head. You know that moment when you close your eyes but your still "seeing"? Try and make that a black screen with nothing moving across it. Just keep wiping away any little flashes of thought until it's perfectly blank. Bingo, instant sleep. Also believe it or not, counting sheep really does work. Or counting backwards from 100. The reason all these things work is that it gives your brain something to do besides forcing sleep and lets your body take over and fall into sleep naturally.

'Rani
[/quote]

Not intending to get spiritual on you guys or w/e..
But this is actually also a meditation technique.

The idea is to remove the mental "body" from it's physical thoughts. Basically the end result is you not thinking at all.. and simply "watching" what you naturally think up. This is, effectively, meditation. The purposeful meditation is controlling the sleep to stop yourself from actually GOING to sleep, but it works in the same way to get yourself TO sleep.

I usually practice this 1-2 hours before "bedtime" so I both get my own personal reflection time as well as getting my physical body in the "mood" to sleep.

[DrSmokes]

[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.

[Rani]

[quote name='mustang67n' timestamp='1331469941' post='542192']
[quote name='Rani' timestamp='1331245479' post='541849']
Melatonin isn't physically addictive, but you can develop a mental dependency on it just as you can on anything else. The best thing is to find a regular routine as has been mentioned before, but then you run into the same problems. If your routine is disturbed, you can't sleep. It's best of all to learn a mental trick that will work for you. What a couple of my friends use is to actually look inside your head. You know that moment when you close your eyes but your still "seeing"? Try and make that a black screen with nothing moving across it. Just keep wiping away any little flashes of thought until it's perfectly blank. Bingo, instant sleep. Also believe it or not, counting sheep really does work. Or counting backwards from 100. The reason all these things work is that it gives your brain something to do besides forcing sleep and lets your body take over and fall into sleep naturally.

'Rani
[/quote]

Not intending to get spiritual on you guys or w/e..
But this is actually also a meditation technique.

The idea is to remove the mental "body" from it's physical thoughts. Basically the end result is you not thinking at all.. and simply "watching" what you naturally think up. This is, effectively, meditation. The purposeful meditation is controlling the sleep to stop yourself from actually GOING to sleep, but it works in the same way to get yourself TO sleep.

I usually practice this 1-2 hours before "bedtime" so I both get my own personal reflection time as well as getting my physical body in the "mood" to sleep.
[/quote]

While meditation is most often used in spiritual practice, I'm not sure I'd consider it a spiritual practice in itself. Primarily considered to be centered in our breathing, it's something physical we do that allows us to connect better spiritually I think. Though a whole lot of medical doctors seem to claim it's not spiritual at all but beneficial none the less. (Not that I agree with them, lol.....) It happens I meditate in the morning because I have an extremely stressful job, and it keeps me centered throughout the day. I'm less inclined to take the head off co-workers who honestly haven't a clue about what they're doing and don't want to learn. I've never been able to go from meditation directly into sleep because for me, it actually expands my mind and my mind working in expanded mode (where I'm actually contemplating the human condition, etc.) isn't good for sleep. I guess all that just confirms that for each of us, different things work different ways at different times.

'Rani

[TheScotsman]

[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331573605' post='542275']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.
[/quote]

Great advice.

It's almost an exact duplicate of what my Chiro told me. He also recommended exposure to bright light in the 5500K up range, especially in the winter months.

[Arcane]

Have someone punch you in the jaw, right below your ear.

Unconscious is like sleeping, right?

[DrSmokes]

[quote name='TheScotsman' timestamp='1331584021' post='542288']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331573605' post='542275']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.
[/quote]

Great advice.

It's almost an exact duplicate of what my Chiro told me. He also recommended exposure to bright light in the 5500K up range, especially in the winter months.
[/quote]
haha yeah, I don't have to worry about that bc I live in FL

[navy876]

[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331587742' post='542291']
[quote name='TheScotsman' timestamp='1331584021' post='542288']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331573605' post='542275']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.
[/quote]

Great advice.

It's almost an exact duplicate of what my Chiro told me. He also recommended exposure to bright light in the 5500K up range, especially in the winter months.
[/quote]
haha yeah, I don't have to worry about that bc I live in FL
[/quote]Its so ironic how you did all that, &I wanted to do Kinesiology and go to College in Florida. Im from Tampa, but live in Shit Ass Texas.

[DrSmokes]

[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331593518' post='542318']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331587742' post='542291']
[quote name='TheScotsman' timestamp='1331584021' post='542288']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331573605' post='542275']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.
[/quote]

Great advice.

It's almost an exact duplicate of what my Chiro told me. He also recommended exposure to bright light in the 5500K up range, especially in the winter months.
[/quote]
haha yeah, I don't have to worry about that bc I live in FL
[/quote]Its so ironic how you did all that, &I wanted to do Kinesiology and go to College in Florida. Im from Tampa, but live in Shit Ass Texas.
[/quote]
There is a difference between Kinesiology (study of movement - usually deals with fitness from what I've heard from my friends that are into it) and Applied Kinesiology, which is the art of muscle testing to find the source of people's problems. If you were to google it, there's a lot of bad "reviews" of AK, mainly bc there are docs out there that aren't doing it right and haven't been trained to do things correctly like I have. In our seminars, when we would workshop, the doc instructing would get all over us to do it right and would point out everything we are doing wrong (including when the doc wants something to show up when it really isn't there - hard to explain if you haven't had it done to you). But do know, there are docs out there that do this that really know what they are doing and shouldn't let a few bad apples ruin it for the ones doing it right. Just sucks bc if I went to a bad MD and posted shit on wikipedia about how much MD's are quacks, it would get deleted but when they do that for chiropractors, it sticks and then anyone that does research on things would see this misinformation.

Sorry for the rant My heart gets racing when I see stupid comments on the internet or even on quackwatch about my profession

[navy876]

[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331595453' post='542327']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331593518' post='542318']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331587742' post='542291']
[quote name='TheScotsman' timestamp='1331584021' post='542288']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331573605' post='542275']
[quote name='navy876' timestamp='1331349904' post='541993']
[quote name='DrSmokes' timestamp='1331349441' post='541992']
5-HTP could probably help. It's what makes you tired when you eat turkey dinners.

Other things that have helped people I've treated are:
1. Getting rid of electronics in the bedroom (no TV's, no computer's, no cell phones, etc.)
2. Drink more water (half your body weight in ounces)
3. Magnesium supplementation (also helps if you don't have a bowel movement 3 times a day aka constipation)
4. Stop eating all the crap in the world and start eating the foods that God intended us to eat (greens, fruits, veggies, nuts, natural meat).
5. Stop watching TV or using the computer an hour before bed. Electronics leave your brain in a heightened state and if you try going to bed right afterwards, it will take time to settle it down. This is when reading a book is great (I've yet to see how the Kindles affect the brain - not the tablet-like ones, the "ink" ones).

I think that's it...I'll have to look through some stuff to see if there is any other basic stuff you can do to help you sleep but these are a good start. I know others would include enzyme supplementation but that's something you need to go to an Internal Health Specialist certified doc in order to see what you may need.
[/quote]I play some Xbox Live right before bead. Literally. & are you a Certified Doctor? Just out of curiosity .
[/quote]
Yes, I received my doctorate in Chiropractic, I'm a certified Internal Health Specialist, and I have taken over 300 hours and became certified in Applied Kinesiology which has forced me to have a better understanding of the body. I've been treating people for about 4 years now and what I listed above has helped peope tremendously. For some people, they just had to remove the electronics from their room as they appeared to be a bit more sensative the electromagnetic waves of the electronics even in the "off" state. Others had to stop playing video games, playing on the computer, or watching TV before laying down.

So I made that list of the most common things that help people. While one thing on the list will help one person, that same thing may not help another so hopefully having a few things for people to try, they can start sleeping better.
[/quote]

Great advice.

It's almost an exact duplicate of what my Chiro told me. He also recommended exposure to bright light in the 5500K up range, especially in the winter months.
[/quote]
haha yeah, I don't have to worry about that bc I live in FL
[/quote]Its so ironic how you did all that, &I wanted to do Kinesiology and go to College in Florida. Im from Tampa, but live in Shit Ass Texas.
[/quote]
There is a difference between Kinesiology (study of movement - usually deals with fitness from what I've heard from my friends that are into it) and Applied Kinesiology, which is the art of muscle testing to find the source of people's problems. If you were to google it, there's a lot of bad "reviews" of AK, mainly bc there are docs out there that aren't doing it right and haven't been trained to do things correctly like I have. In our seminars, when we would workshop, the doc instructing would get all over us to do it right and would point out everything we are doing wrong (including when the doc wants something to show up when it really isn't there - hard to explain if you haven't had it done to you). But do know, there are docs out there that do this that really know what they are doing and shouldn't let a few bad apples ruin it for the ones doing it right. Just sucks bc if I went to a bad MD and posted shit on wikipedia about how much MD's are quacks, it would get deleted but when they do that for chiropractors, it sticks and then anyone that does research on things would see this misinformation.

Sorry for the rant My heart gets racing when I see stupid comments on the internet or even on quackwatch about my profession
[/quote]Well I initially wanted to do Physical Therapy. & the study of Body movement and Muscles has alot to do with that. They make Great money.