Serious Questions

[jonchou729]

hi, i am new to shisha, and i am doing some research on shisha. i have a few questions, and if you guys could assist me by answering my questions and numbering your responses according to my questions, that would be great.

1. is the wider the stem and hose port the better? if yes, which pipe has the largest of both parts.

2. what is the ideal height of a pipe? i heard 28"-32" for cooling the smoke. is this including the base and the head, or is it without the base and/or the head?

3. is the thicker the hose the better? if so, which hose is the thickest? does the diameter of the tip of the hose matter (where you inhale)?

4. what are the best coals? i heard about fantasia airflows.

5. does foil thickness matter? if yes, what is the ideal thickness?

6. how much juice should be squeezed out from the tobacco? what is ideal?

7. do you guys layer the tobacco? any rules?

8. which vases are the largest? i heard the larger the base, the more smoke. i also heard another theory about surface area. what are the two theories?

[king_lunchb0x]

welcome to HF, many of the answers to your questions will be based on each persons opinion.

1.A: some people here like the wider draw, but not all. Syrians have a fairly restricted draw, Khalil Mamoons/farida are open. I can't remember where mya's fall, but this more of what you prefer. Chinese knock-off's can have a real tight draw and the pipes tend to rust and not last as long as others.

2.A: I believe as long as the pipe stands 23"(including the base) the cooling of the smoke from the stem will not differ much from then on.
3A: the thickness of the hose would matter only for durability issues i would say, if something is so paper thin it just would last so long. The thicker the heavier tho. Diameter of the hose and its ports is also again preference. Wide gauge hoses like km beast hose/Narb/razan/nammor/ goes for wide gauge pipes, if you were to get a mya style hose and put it on a km size pipe it would just cancel out the wide draw from the pipe because your hose is not the wide.

4A: I have never used the airflows,they seem like a waste of money to me, after about 10 minutes the coal would just shrink so much that the cave in the center would be that much of a difference(this is just what i thought about them,not fact). Coconut coals are good they can be had for a decent price and will last a while.Cocobricos are supposed to be awesome they seem to be easy to get in the UK.

5A: I like Heavy duty foil

6A: Honestly i dont think you should squeeze out any juice. These companies should know what their doing so you shouldn't have to go this extra step

7A:layer? if you mean flavor wise, yes you can layer different flavors ontop of another. Or you can pack a bowl half one flavor and the other half another flavor.

8A: Jumbo bases i think are the biggest ones out there. Bohemian style or Khalil mamoon. The theories about the more smoke quantity just doesn't seem real, i can get just as big of clouds of a trumpet style base as i can a km large bell...ive never smoked out of a jumbo before though.

I hope this helps.like I said a lot is preference what I like you may not like. Just go out there try a few things out see what tickles your pickle.good luck and happy smoking!

[jonchou729]

[quote name='king_lunchb0x' timestamp='1333671273' post='544146']
welcome to HF, many of the answers to your questions will be based on each persons opinion.

1.A: some people here like the wider draw, but not all. Syrians have a fairly restricted draw, Khalil Mamoons/farida are open. I can't remember where mya's fall, but this more of what you prefer. Chinese knock-off's can have a real tight draw and the pipes tend to rust and not last as long as others.

2.A: I believe as long as the pipe stands 23"(including the base) the cooling of the smoke from the stem will not differ much from then on.
3A: the thickness of the hose would matter only for durability issues i would say, if something is so paper thin it just would last so long. The thicker the heavier tho. Diameter of the hose and its ports is also again preference. Wide gauge hoses like km beast hose/Narb/razan/nammor/ goes for wide gauge pipes, if you were to get a mya style hose and put it on a km size pipe it would just cancel out the wide draw from the pipe because your hose is not the wide.

4A: I have never used the airflows,they seem like a waste of money to me, after about 10 minutes the coal would just shrink so much that the cave in the center would be that much of a difference(this is just what i thought about them,not fact). Coconut coals are good they can be had for a decent price and will last a while.Cocobricos are supposed to be awesome they seem to be easy to get in the UK.

5A: I like Heavy duty foil

6A: Honestly i dont think you should squeeze out any juice. These companies should know what their doing so you shouldn't have to go this extra step

7A:layer? if you mean flavor wise, yes you can layer different flavors ontop of another. Or you can pack a bowl half one flavor and the other half another flavor.

8A: Jumbo bases i think are the biggest ones out there. Bohemian style or Khalil mamoon. The theories about the more smoke quantity just doesn't seem real, i can get just as big of clouds of a trumpet style base as i can a km large bell...ive never smoked out of a jumbo before though.

I hope this helps.like I said a lot is preference what I like you may not like. Just go out there try a few things out see what tickles your pickle.good luck and happy smoking!
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what is your take on [url="http://hookahhappiness.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=16_29_26"]http://hookahhappiness.com/index.php...cPath=16_29_26[/url]? are these larger than the KM Jumbos? which vases are the largest?

i heard to cool the smoke, you need 28" at least. is this true? also, i heard it is the length of the stem from top to bottom only.

[dingo1799]

if you REALLY want cool smoke, fill your base with ice, and put enough water in it to put the water level to norm level....... then smoke something mint.... ICEY!!!!!

really tho, i've ALWAYS used ice in mine, and it just isnt the same without it

[mustang67n]

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what is your take on [url="http://hookahhappiness.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=16_29_26"]http://hookahhappiness.com/index.php...cPath=16_29_26[/url]? are these larger than the KM Jumbos? which vases are the largest?

i heard to cool the smoke, you need 28" at least. is this true? also, i heard it is the length of the stem from top to bottom only.
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Those vases you linked are OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. The vase that comes with the pipes work fine. I have never noticed a difference in the smoke quality or mass depending on the size of the vase. It really doesn't seem to matter.

As far as cooling the smoke goes, Ice, as suggested helps cool the smoke drastically. I and a few others don't use Ice or cold water in the vase. I notice that if the water is cold the smoke loses flavor, which is why I'm smoking in the first place.

The size of the stem doesn't seem to make a large difference to me either when it comes to the smoke temperature. I regularly smoke out of a tall KM pipe, but used to smoke out of a small (less than 12") Mya QT. I still don't notice a difference in temperature.

[Hassouni]

[quote name='jonchou729' timestamp='1333669344' post='544144']
hi, i am new to shisha, and i am doing some research on shisha. i have a few questions, and if you guys could assist me by answering my questions and numbering your responses according to my questions, that would be great.

1. is the wider the stem and hose port the better? if yes, which pipe has the largest of both parts.

[color=#ff0000]It's a matter of preference. Some like wide, some like tight and narrow, some (like me) prefer in between. Most Egyptian pipes, namely Khalil Ma'moons, are wide open. All Syrian and Turkish pipes are narrow. Mya and Lebanese pipes tend to be in between.[/color]

2. what is the ideal height of a pipe? i heard 28"-32" for cooling the smoke. is this including the base and the head, or is it without the base and/or the head?

[color=#ff0000]I like that size because it's substantial without being huge, but it doesn't make much difference. That includes the base.[/color]

3. is the thicker the hose the better? if so, which hose is the thickest? does the diameter of the tip of the hose matter (where you inhale)?

[color=#ff0000]Again, it's a matter of preference. KM Beast, Narbish, Razan type hoses are the thickest, Mya and Turkish hoses are the narrowest. Yes, the opening matters, a tiny opening on a wide hose means the draw will be tight.[/color]

4. what are the best coals? i heard about fantasia airflows.

[color=#ff0000]If you're in the UK you should use Cocobricos and only them.[/color]

5. does foil thickness matter? if yes, what is the ideal thickness?

[color=#ff0000]I use heavy duty foil (Waitrose do a nice product) for everything except heat-resistant tobaccos like Nakhla, for which I usually use thinner foil. Waitrose heavy duty foil is actually thicker than Reynolds HD (what most American smokers prefer), and is good for keeping sensitive stuff like Al Fakher or Tangiers from burning too easily.[/color]

6. how much juice should be squeezed out from the tobacco? what is ideal?

[color=#ff0000]Normally none, some super juicy stuff like AF I sometimes just pat with a paper towel but by no means always.[/color]

7. do you guys layer the tobacco? any rules?

[color=#ff0000]When mixing, if that's what you mean, I just thoroughly mix outside the bowl before packing.[/color]

8. which vases are the largest? i heard the larger the base, the more smoke. i also heard another theory about surface area. what are the two theories?
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[color=#ff0000]Probably the Turkish "jumbo" [stupid term but it's ubiquitous] ones are the largest. Small vases do inhibit smoke volume, but after a point it's all basically the same.[/color]

[Chreees]

First off, welcome to HF!

1. One of the largest gauged hookahs is the Khalil Mamoon brand. Biggest is not necessarily the best, though. I own a KM and also an Al Nawras, which has a slightly more restricted (smaller) gauge. I have become fond of the tighter draw over the past few years of my time smoking hookah.

2. Really doesn't matter. Technically the taller the pipe, the less nicotine you will receive because it has a longer distance to travel and because the nicotine sticks to the inside of the hookah/hose. Also, I think it's safe to say taller the hookah cooler the smoke, but really don't worry about this, as you won't notice. I have used a small 14" Mya QT (great hookah, especially for beginners to the hobby), and I have used a 32" KM and can't tell a difference in smoke temperature. Worry more about what size is convenient for your needs/purposes. Everything else I mentioned, don't worry about it.

3. Thicker the hose, easier the draw, just like the diameter of the hookah. But again, I'm not a fan of HUGE OPEN draw, and many others feel the same. I think it's all about a nice balance- not too small, not too big. Nammor, Razan, KM, Elmas, Fancy, etc. are all good brands of hoses you should like if purchased. I am currently rocking a Razan Abu Mahir that I really enjoy. Avoid Chinese hoses (the ones Mya pipes come with, and other generic Chinese brands) as they are really small diameter and just suck in general.

4. You're paying for less coal per dollar if you get the Fantasia Air-Flows, due to a chunk being out of them. Instead go for a good coconut coal brand, and invest in a single-coil burner ($10-15 at Walgreen's here in the States, but I see you're in the UK, so not sure where it would be available there, may have to order one online). As Hass said above me, go for the Cocobricos and don't worry about anything else! Love them and wish they were readily available here!

5. Not sure what's available there, but heavy duty foil is ideal. Cheap thin stuff will only be harder heat management wise.

6. None. I mean, some people do, but it's not necessary by any means.

7. Mixing can be done both ways, layering and mixing the flavors together then packing. I usually just mix them together, but I have made some good mixes like where I layered mint in the bottom and another flavor on top. Just experiment and decide which method you like best.

8. I don't think that's necessarily true about larger the vase, larger the smoke. At this point, I've determined just go for vases you find aesthetically pleasing and know will fit your shank. Everything else, fuggetaboutit! Unless you decide to become a collector of Czech (Bohemian) glass or something, lol.

Need anything else man, or need anything clarified, let us know! We're here to help. No stupid questions.

[jonchou729]

[quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1333684413' post='544164']
First off, welcome to HF!

1. One of the largest gauged hookahs is the Khalil Mamoon brand. Biggest is not necessarily the best, though. I own a KM and also an Al Nawras, which has a slightly more restricted (smaller) gauge. I have become fond of the tighter draw over the past few years of my time smoking hookah.

2. Really doesn't matter. Technically the taller the pipe, the less nicotine you will receive because it has a longer distance to travel and because the nicotine sticks to the inside of the hookah/hose. Also, I think it's safe to say taller the hookah cooler the smoke, but really don't worry about this, as you won't notice. I have used a small 14" Mya QT (great hookah, especially for beginners to the hobby), and I have used a 32" KM and can't tell a difference in smoke temperature. Worry more about what size is convenient for your needs/purposes. Everything else I mentioned, don't worry about it.

3. Thicker the hose, easier the draw, just like the diameter of the hookah. But again, I'm not a fan of HUGE OPEN draw, and many others feel the same. I think it's all about a nice balance- not too small, not too big. Nammor, Razan, KM, Elmas, Fancy, etc. are all good brands of hoses you should like if purchased. I am currently rocking a Razan Abu Mahir that I really enjoy. Avoid Chinese hoses (the ones Mya pipes come with, and other generic Chinese brands) as they are really small diameter and just suck in general.

4. You're paying for less coal per dollar if you get the Fantasia Air-Flows, due to a chunk being out of them. Instead go for a good coconut coal brand, and invest in a single-coil burner ($10-15 at Walgreen's here in the States, but I see you're in the UK, so not sure where it would be available there, may have to order one online). As Hass said above me, go for the Cocobricos and don't worry about anything else! Love them and wish they were readily available here!

5. Not sure what's available there, but heavy duty foil is ideal. Cheap thin stuff will only be harder heat management wise.

6. None. I mean, some people do, but it's not necessary by any means.

7. Mixing can be done both ways, layering and mixing the flavors together then packing. I usually just mix them together, but I have made some good mixes like where I layered mint in the bottom and another flavor on top. Just experiment and decide which method you like best.

8. I don't think that's necessarily true about larger the vase, larger the smoke. At this point, I've determined just go for vases you find aesthetically pleasing and know will fit your shank. Everything else, fuggetaboutit! Unless you decide to become a collector of Czech (Bohemian) glass or something, lol.

Need anything else man, or need anything clarified, let us know! We're here to help. No stupid questions.
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I thank and appreciate you for your response, and I thank and appreciate the responses I have received above as well. I have a few things to reclarify. Can you guys please answer the questions below?

1. Does the Regal Melech have the widest stem, downstem, hose port, et cetera, even when compared to Turkish pipes, Hookahjohn's, Teemsahs, et cetera?

2. Based on what you are saying, the KM Beast hose is the widest, but does this still stand even when compared to the unconventional/Turkish/Syrian Elephant?

4. Do the size of both ends of the hose, that is, the hose tip from where you inhale and the hose end which connects to the hose port connector affect the smoke quantity?

5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.[b] Which bases have the largest surface area?[/b]

[jonchou729]

and in regards to the surface area, what I mean by surface area is the top level of water that is in contact with the air in the base when the water is not being moved.

[joytron]

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5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.[b] Which bases have the largest surface area?[/b]
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Just because you have a basic grasp of chemistry and can string some words together doesnt mean you are not full of shit.


So I have to ask, what does it matter?

[mustang67n]

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[quote name='jonchou729' timestamp='1333752000' post='544242']
5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.[b] Which bases have the largest surface area?[/b]
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Just because you have a basic grasp of chemistry and can string some words together doesnt mean you are not full of shit.


So I have to ask, what does it matter?
[/quote][quote name='joytron' timestamp='1333756600' post='544245']
[quote name='jonchou729' timestamp='1333752000' post='544242']
5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.[b] Which bases have the largest surface area?[/b]
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Just because you have a basic grasp of chemistry and can string some words together doesnt mean you are not full of shit.


So I have to ask, what does it matter?
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Well, in response to Jonchou.. The draw is affected by the amount of water the stem is in. If it's in more water(deeper) the draw is more restricted. There is more stuff for the air to push through, so it's harder to pull it.. Its like why it's hard to move your hand through water when swimming, its just natural resistance.

If you want more resistance to your draw, add more water to your base, if you want less, add less. Many of us fill the vase to the point of being 1/2" to 1" of water covering the downstem.

[Quizit]

[quote name='dingo1799' timestamp='1333680025' post='544152']
if you REALLY want cool smoke, fill your base with ice, and put enough water in it to put the water level to norm level....... then smoke something mint.... ICEY!!!!!

really tho, i've ALWAYS used ice in mine, and it just isnt the same without it
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Best advice here (well, pretty good). Ice + Mint shisha is absolutely awesome. Try Fumari Mint Chocolate Chill with this ice trick.

[speel]

1. is the wider the stem and hose port the better? if yes, which pipe has the largest of both parts.
[color=#ff0000]Technically yes, more room for air flow.[/color]


2. what is the ideal height of a pipe? i heard 28"-32" for cooling the smoke. is this including the base and the head, or is it without the base and/or the head?
[color=#ff0000]It's your preference, I had billowing clouds with my MYA QT now I have a 28"ish KM and I personally like my KM, it has lions.[/color]

3. is the thicker the hose the better? if so, which hose is the thickest? does the diameter of the tip of the hose matter (where you inhale)?
[color=#ff0000]Thicker the hose, not really, what you want is a wide hose. An the diameter meh not really.[/color]

4. what are the best coals? i heard about fantasia airflows.
[color=#ff0000]Natural wood or coconut hands down.[/color]

5. does foil thickness matter? if yes, what is the ideal thickness?
[color=#ff0000]Always used reynolds thick foil, been great for me.[/color]

6. how much juice should be squeezed out from the tobacco? what is ideal?
[color=#ff0000]Leave all that juicy goodness in there.[/color]

7. do you guys layer the tobacco? any rules?
[color=#ff0000]I personally don't unless I'm mixing flavors, I just put one on top of the other.[/color]

8. which vases are the largest? i heard the larger the base, the more smoke. i also heard another theory about surface area. what are the two theories?
[color=#ff0000]No and no, once again this is more of a personal preference thing, theres even a portable hookah that you can fit into a ltr soda bottle, doesn't mean anything for smoke amount.[/color]


[color=#FF0000]hope that helps [/color]

[Judy Oma]

The chemistry question: true statement, but any difference will be negligible - the size or surface area differences between most vases you would normally use is not great enough for you to really notice any difference. Fun to think about tho!

A few observations:

Some people say that since the smoke coming through a narrower hose is more concentrated than in a huge fat hose, so is the flavor. Seems plausible. I use a huge fat hose for double apple sometimes just for fun, but usually use a narrower hose.

Smoke, or actually vapor, will be cooled through room temp water just fine. But sometimes adding ice or using an ice tip is just fun - however usually the flavor intensity will take a hit when you do this.

Don't skimp on the foil you use, get the sturdiest foil you can find.

Don't think too hard. Just go smoke. One summer, at a cabin with friends, some clod broke my vase and bowl minutes after arrival. Used a 2 liter bottle, a watermelon, and a wine box (yeah classy) as a base, and various fruits for a bowl for the rest of the week. Pure awesomeness.

[Coyote]

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Don't think too hard. Just go smoke. One summer, at a cabin with friends, some clod broke my vase and bowl minutes after arrival. Used a 2 liter bottle, a watermelon, and a wine box (yeah classy) as a base, and various fruits for a bowl for the rest of the week. Pure awesomeness.[/quote]

I love it when things turn out that was. We disnt have a bowl ine night so stopped at 7-11 and got an apple and put it with Tangiers Passionfruit was good.


*Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco*

[jonchou729]

1. Does the Regal Melech have the widest stem, downstem, hose port, et cetera, even when compared to Turkish pipes, HJohn's, Teemsahs, et cetera?

2. Based on what you are saying, the KM Beast hose is the widest, but does this still stand even when compared to the unconventional/Turkish/Syrian Elephant?

4. Do the size of both ends of the hose, that is, the hose tip from where you inhale and the hose end which connects to the hose port connector affect the smoke quantity?

5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.Which bases have the largest surface area ie.the top level of water that is in contact with the air in the base when the water is not being moved?

[vendetta_revived]

Never mind.

[speel]

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5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.Which bases have the largest surface area ie.the top level of water that is in contact with the air in the base when the water is not being moved?
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Whoa lol you went all scientific, just get a base you'll enjoy to be honest.

[dizzbizz]

If you want super cold smoke, then look into the products that are made to do that. Surface area and all that crap isn't going to really cool anything. My Mya Petite's smoke is just as cool as my KM's and it's the smallest Mya ever made. Just buy a well made hookah and stick ice in the base if you really want cold smoke, or buy a Mya Ice tip.

[mustang67n]

[quote name='jonchou729' timestamp='1333807548' post='544276']
1. Does the Regal Melech have the widest stem, downstem, hose port, et cetera, even when compared to Turkish pipes, HJohn's, Teemsahs, et cetera?

2. Based on what you are saying, the KM Beast hose is the widest, but does this still stand even when compared to the unconventional/Turkish/Syrian Elephant?

4. Do the size of both ends of the hose, that is, the hose tip from where you inhale and the hose end which connects to the hose port connector affect the smoke quantity?

5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.Which bases have the largest surface area ie.the top level of water that is in contact with the air in the base when the water is not being moved?
[/quote][quote name='jonchou729' timestamp='1333807548' post='544276']
1. Does the Regal Melech have the widest stem, downstem, hose port, et cetera, even when compared to Turkish pipes, HJohn's, Teemsahs, et cetera?

2. Based on what you are saying, the KM Beast hose is the widest, but does this still stand even when compared to the unconventional/Turkish/Syrian Elephant?

4. Do the size of both ends of the hose, that is, the hose tip from where you inhale and the hose end which connects to the hose port connector affect the smoke quantity?

5. A friend of mine experimented with shishas, and he found out this in regards to the base: "The surface area theory is in regards to the cohesive properties of the hydrogen bonds in water. The larger the surface area the easier it is to break the bonds. The idea is that because there are a large number of these bonds on the surface therefore splitting and reorganizing the bonds is easier than when there are less bonds. The reason is because the less bonds the more concentrated the force has to be. Therefore due to the standard entropy within the bodies of water it is easier to release the force and break the tension." Based on my understanding, he is stating that there is a correlation between surface area of the vase and pull, but I am having troubles with understanding the theory.Which bases have the largest surface area ie.the top level of water that is in contact with the air in the base when the water is not being moved?
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To be honest, you are putting entirely too much thought into this. It seems your ultimate goal is to get the most smoke out of your pipe, correct? This is done more with proper heat management than the diameter of the stem and hose. Purchase a quality name pipe, bowl, and hose (most quality pipes come with decent hoses) And you'll be set. It's more about learning heat management to get great smoke quality, not so much the stuff you use to get it. The higher quality pipes and hoses simply last longer, and that is why they are preferred. Edited April 8, 2012 by mustang67n