wheyfast Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Ok I have been in this forum for a little time now and I keep seeing the same reoccuring topic of headaches. I smoked another bowl last week and low and behold I went to bed with a headache. Woke up with a headache. Maybe its the coals? Or a certain tobacco. I have smoked really heavy before so I know its not the nicotine. I was thinkig maybe I am not letting the coal get hot enough or something. Any help on this subject would be great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I've noticed that when my body is slightly dehydrated, I tend to get headaches more than when I've been taking in a steady amount of water daily.It's atleast worth a shot to drink more water. Only going to do your body good anyways :)Also, smoke on a full stomach, not a starving one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianKiss Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 What kind of coals and shisha are you using?And definitely make sure you're drinking enough water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unggio Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 i've read that ppl get headaches during a hangover is because the alcohol dehydrates the the brain making it shrink away from the skull and the brain membrane, thus causing the paini would assume that if you don't drink enough water during hookah, (which does dehydrate you), it would cause the same effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheyfast Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 So are thinking that drinking plenty of water while smoking the hookah may be the problem? Sounds almost logical. I will try it. Any other therories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 low blood pressure. go on hookah wiki and look up nausea, i wrote a lil about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboyyy Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 my theory on all this i dont know if it makes much sense is the brown paper bag .... remember when you were a kid and you took a brown paper lunch bag and would breath in and out of it very fast then you would get a light headed dizzy feeling from lack of oxygen ? well i think its the same theory ... if you constantly try to pull the smoke from the chamber of the hoookah without enough room to take a deep breathe of some oxygen then your basically doing the brown paper bag trick you used to do as a kid ... only in grown up version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 [url="http://www.hookahwiki.com/index.php?title=Headache"]http://www.hookahwiki.com/index.php?title=Headache[/url]Linked for you. Join the newsletter, we are about to roll out some special deals just for HookahWiki.com members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Don't just drink water WHILE you smoke... do it all day, because drinking water before hand will get you hydrated. Not smoking on an empty stomach is a must too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Well, to adress the hangover thing, alchohol dehydrogenase in your liver turns ethonal into acetaldehyde (I am not to up on my organic right now, that may not be spelled right) which is then slowy turned into acetic acid, which is harmless. The build up of acetaldehyde will make you pretty sick, including headaces and stomach problems. Dehydration is a part as well. As for hookah, the large amounts of CO could be making you head hurt. I used to get headaches so now I don't smoke as hard and breathe more and I don't have any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
web250 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Nice orgo work there Joseph...Acetic acid = vinegar basically, thats the end product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Well, I am a molecular biology/genetics major, so I know enough O-Chem to get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Claytron Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Science. Word. Check it.Nice post Joseph. Science is always good to help fight bullshit. The comments on the wiki are good as well and cover the other prime suspects. Basically it can be alot of things. For me it's usually the Nicotine because I don't smoke very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianPride Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I have sort of experimented and found that for me the headaches are due probably from the CO of the natural coals. Probably due to the fact that while heating it up I was exposed to a lot of CO and also probably because I still haven't perfected my technique, so there were still my black bits.Which brings me to ask does any one have a good technique for lighting the naturals? No matter how many times I think the entire thing is lit there is always black bits that become exposed after a few minutes of smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 It might also be the sulfer in the natural coals - depending on the make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheyfast Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 So when are you supposed to put the coals on? That could be one of my problems. The quick lights I light them let them fizzle then wait until the brick is almost all white. Then I break it and throw the chunks on the foil. Is this correct? Thanks in advance. Also if its the CO that is causing the headache provlems is this from the coal or the whole process. Maybe there is a better substitute for coal? Why don't cigarette smokers or cigar smolers get the same headache. I have been smoking cigars for years and never get a headache???Thanks for your help and discussion this is a great open group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 CO is a product of combustion, and it is a poison to humans - so it shouldn't be suprising that it can make ya not feel so hot. It's in any carbon based material that burns. Though make sure the coals are 'ready' before using them. I've not had an issue with the quicklights and headaches - it's always been the nicotine for me. As for quicklight best practice - I'm still learning with coals and heat management. Since properly smoked shisha doesn't usually burn much in the traditional sense, the CO is coming from the heat source - in the case of hookahs - coal.It probably has to do with the nature of coal versus burning tobacco. I'm guessing here - but I'd imagine tobacco produces significantly less CO than a burning coal on a more continuous time frame.In terms of alternate heat sources - it would be possible to create a heated ceramic source with electicity - basically a high temperature vaporizer. But that would be pretty tricky and would have to be a custom hookah or a custom head attachment - but a head attachment with a wall plug or a battery would probably be kind awkward or unstable. I do think it's possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Well, the differance between cigs and hookah is that hookah lasts for much longer. More CO will be absorbed over 45 minutes of hookah smoking then in a 5 minute cigarettes. Then the person usually waits at least a little bit before they light up the next cigarette, so they usually aren't smoking or 45 minutes to an hour and a half straight. Also, do you inhale cigars? You won't get nearly as much CO if you don't inhale.As for lighting coals, I use naturals, and I only smoke outside (which might help your headache, not sitting in a room filled with smoke) I always use a butane backpacking stove. Works amazingly, it is portable, the butane is pretty cheap, and it gets the coals ready quick. I wait until they are either white all over, or if I am smoking outside at night, can actually see the coal glowing red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I have updated the headache article at HW with the new information from this thread, including the awesome information that Joseph gave us.[url="http://www.hookahwiki.com/index.php?title=Headache"]http://www.hookahwiki.com/index.php?title=Headache[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I get headaches occasionally. Generally, I find that I get them right after a small change in the weather from wet to drier. Not too much of a change. I think that everyone is correct to one degree or another, many things will cause headaches, another one is the same principal that you get from caffeine...withdrawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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