â€On Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1338482789' post='548359'] [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1338476656' post='548355'] I believe the deal currently being offered from 5star can be seen as an unfair one. Sure, they are not forcing anyone to buy from them, but offering the bowl ONLY in a package deal? and therefore making consumers buying tobacco with it if they want the bowl doesn't seem very ethical. May be it's a good deal if you are low on tobacco, but if you think you already have enough, and don't want to shell out for more tobacco, then you're sol basically. [/quote] I guess if you choose only to buy from that vendor then you are SOL... There are a number of online vendors and retail stores across the US that are carrying Tangiers products. One enterprise has not cornered the Tangiers Pico market. There is plenty of healthy competition between our vendors. :twocents:On another note I'm kinda surprised that people don't like the package deal. I thought we all run through tobacco pretty quick anyway. You get a Tangiers bowl, Tangiers Tobacco, and the same coal we use at the Tangiers lounge. In some cases you get an oyster fork too. It kinda takes the guess work out of it because that's how we do it. Id rather see more people getting the packages than just getting the tobacco and trying to pack it in a Egyptian with QLs. Just people I want people to have a great experience. Not everyone is on the forum and getting awesome advice. Some people are just wondering around, buying tobacco, not reading the instructions clearly printed on the package and taking advantage of the helpful resources (including HF website, and phone numbers). So if they get a package, its just a matter of figuring out how to use it... which is not hard to do when you have all the tools included. [/quote] Truth to this. Whenever I'm browsing [url="http://www.reddit.com/r/hookah/"]http://www.reddit.com/r/hookah/[/url] it always blows my mind how much we take for granted around these parts. There are so many people doing so many things wrong around there, because they simply don't know any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 5Star said they were doing it that way under Eric's Orders...found that fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I believe Eric has said he does not require anything like package deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavsfan31 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Stuie' timestamp='1338483482' post='548364'] 5Star said they were doing it that way under Eric's Orders...found that fishy. [/quote] Did they say that about the picos too? I know they said that about the #7 phunnels. If they said that about the pico package too, that does sound kind of fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshinx23 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1338482789' post='548359'] [quote name='vendetta_revived' timestamp='1338476656' post='548355'] I believe the deal currently being offered from 5star can be seen as an unfair one. Sure, they are not forcing anyone to buy from them, but offering the bowl ONLY in a package deal? and therefore making consumers buying tobacco with it if they want the bowl doesn't seem very ethical. May be it's a good deal if you are low on tobacco, but if you think you already have enough, and don't want to shell out for more tobacco, then you're sol basically. [/quote] I guess if you choose only to buy from that vendor then you are SOL... There are a number of online vendors and retail stores across the US that are carrying Tangiers products. One enterprise has not cornered the Tangiers Pico market. There is plenty of healthy competition between our vendors. :twocents:On another note I'm kinda surprised that people don't like the package deal. I thought we all run through tobacco pretty quick anyway. You get a Tangiers bowl, Tangiers Tobacco, and the same coal we use at the Tangiers lounge. In some cases you get an oyster fork too. It kinda takes the guess work out of it because that's how we do it. Id rather see more people getting the packages than just getting the tobacco and trying to pack it in a Egyptian with QLs. Just people I want people to have a great experience. Not everyone is on the forum and getting awesome advice. Some people are just wondering around, buying tobacco, not reading the instructions clearly printed on the package and taking advantage of the helpful resources (including HF website, and phone numbers). So if they get a package, its just a matter of figuring out how to use it... which is not hard to do when you have all the tools included. [/quote] every time i read a post by you, i feel like I'm listening to a politician, lots of words that say nothing lol. i just love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 the #'s are hitting the market for around 17-19$ at just about every vendor, so it about evens out for the package deal. I guess some people just don't need tobacco right now but want the bowls its the problem. Since 5star didn't have the flavors of birquq i wanted so i had to order tobacco and bowls from seperate vendors. Cant wait to try them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mavsfan31' timestamp='1338615378' post='548473'] [quote name='Stuie' timestamp='1338483482' post='548364'] 5Star said they were doing it that way under Eric's Orders...found that fishy. [/quote] Did they say that about the picos too? I know they said that about the #7 phunnels. If they said that about the pico package too, that does sound kind of fishy. [/quote] Yeah, that irked me when 5Star decided to only offer the #8 Pico in a package deal as well... The #7 was one thing, but the #8 is supposed to be a regular production bowl. #8 Pico is now available at at least two vendors that I know of that don't force you to buy it in a package deal. Kudos to those vendors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='kenshinx23' timestamp='1338617302' post='548476'] every time i read a post by you, i feel like I'm listening to a politician, lots of words that say nothing lol. i just love it.[/quote] I'm i supposed to be offended or clarify my points in a clean and concise way? Both? Neither? I feel like I'm wasting my time reading posts by you because they offer no useful content to the discourse. Maybe you are trying to boost your post count since you've only been here 4 months? Either way: - 5star doesn't have a monopoly/monospony over Pico bowls. - there are other online vendors and local store that will sell you an individual Picos - I think 5star packages are a good idea because they provide the standard Tangiers lounge tools *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 so who has the pico bowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1338655260' post='548487']so who has the pico bowls?[/quote] Magic Smokes for one... Woodland Hills CA on Victory Blvd. *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1338655260' post='548487'] so who has the pico bowls? [/quote] Katie, most people on here don't live near Magic Smokes. Just checked online- HookahJohn has one color in stock, the Chocolate Mesa/Turkish Amber. Sexy color combo, if I may so say myself. Price: $18.99. Vendor who shall not be named has an assortment of colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Light Purple (not sure if official name? Sexy color nonetheless), Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. I got the color names from 5Star, as this vendor ripped off 5Star's pic. They don't list the color names; instead they simply say type in the instructions what color you want (makes it a bit confusing, I think). Price: $17.99. 5Star has the package deal where you can get one Pico with either three packages of Lucid or three packages of Birquq. Colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. $55.99 for either package. It's also worth noting that 5Star has set up a package deal for the #7 phunnel package deal where they only make you get one package of Noir ($27.99), Lucid ($28.99), or Birquq ($28.99). Color options are Dark Blue and Medium Blue currently. I'm sure these vendors (and other vendors eventually) will get more, and in more colors, in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Yeah but Nima at Magic Smokes will sell you one and send it out cuz he's cool like dat *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1338676400' post='548495'] Yeah but Nima at Magic Smokes will sell you one and send it out cuz he's cool like dat *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* [/quote] You're teasing us, Katie... We need contact info and instructions on how to order! Know by any chance what colors he has? I'm really wanting that light purple color. Sexiest color of the bunch I've seen so far. EDIT: Also, price? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Call Nima: MAGIC SMOKES 22804 Victory Blvd, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 (818) 719-9863 You can find them on my facebook too... Watch them sell out now lol... Not sure on price *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 [quote]5Star has the package deal where you can get one Pico with either THREE packageS of Lucid or THREE packageS of Birquq. Colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. $55.99 for either package.[/quote] Fixed. wth... i paid 5 bucks more for my package deal last thursday... when did this price drop come about? i get my pico on wednesday btw. got the green splash color scheme. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And this is a true pico, the size that went out with the samples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzigner Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 [quote name='glider' timestamp='1338704455' post='548507'][quote]5Star has the package deal where you can get one Pico with either THREE packageS of Lucid or THREE packageS of Birquq. Colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. $55.99 for either package.[/quote] Fixed. wth... i paid 5 bucks more for my package deal last thursday... when did this price drop come about? i get my pico on wednesday btw. got the green splash color scheme. Alex[/quote] It's probably cause they dropped the coals from the package which is the $5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1338731800' post='548510'] And this is a true pico, the size that went out with the samples? [/quote] yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 cool. thanks. Some folks i know will be ordering one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1338666992' post='548489'] [quote name='mushrat' timestamp='1338655260' post='548487'] so who has the pico bowls? [/quote] Katie, most people on here don't live near Magic Smokes. Just checked online- HookahJohn has one color in stock, the Chocolate Mesa/Turkish Amber. Sexy color combo, if I may so say myself. Price: $18.99. Vendor who shall not be named has an assortment of colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Light Purple (not sure if official name? Sexy color nonetheless), Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. I got the color names from 5Star, as this vendor ripped off 5Star's pic. They don't list the color names; instead they simply say type in the instructions what color you want (makes it a bit confusing, I think). Price: $17.99. 5Star has the package deal where you can get one Pico with either three packages of Lucid or three packages of Birquq. Colors: Orange/Brown, Brown Splash, Grayish Blue, Black, Dark Blue, Orange/Black, Yellow/Black, Green Splash. $55.99 for either package. It's also worth noting that 5Star has set up a package deal for the #7 phunnel package deal where they only make you get one package of Noir ($27.99), Lucid ($28.99), or Birquq ($28.99). Color options are Dark Blue and Medium Blue currently. I'm sure these vendors (and other vendors eventually) will get more, and in more colors, in time. [/quote] Correction: "Vendor who shall not be named" does NOT have all of the colors in stock that they have pictured (the pic they ripped off of 5Star's site). More specifically, they're out of that sexy purple color. Really wish I could get one of those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greek Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I gave in and ordered a purple pico bowl from 5 star and it came yesterday. If anyone would like pictures i would be glad to share. One thing that caught me off guard was that it produces a lot less smoke. I expected it to be small, but this thing is tiny. I figured that maybe since it is so small and uses only a pinch of tobacco that maybe that is the reason for less smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='The Greek' timestamp='1338908969' post='548629']I gave in and ordered a purple pico bowl from 5 star and it came yesterday. If anyone would like pictures i would be glad to share. One thing that caught me off guard was that it produces a lot less smoke. I expected it to be small, but this thing is tiny. I figured that maybe since it is so small and uses only a pinch of tobacco that maybe that is the reason for less smoke?[/quote] How and what are you packing? What coals and heat management method are you using? *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamyxcupcakes Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yeah maybe something is off. My Pico Smokes like a champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainUM Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 i would imagine with a new bowl comes new ways of heat management. i'm looking forward to seeing what will and will not work on my pico that did and didn't work on my mini. if i get the pico smoking as well as my mini, the mini might never be used hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greek Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I packed it like normal tangiers. Pack it tight and up to the top. I probably could have added ,more which i will do next time. I started with two CH QL flat and as time went on i started to Stonehenge them. I was using tang birquoq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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