ShishaMisha Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Recently I bought a 13inch tall hookah set up and the supply brands of Al Fakher Premium Strawberry Tobacco and Three Kings 40mm Charcoals. Now the issue is that every time that I had smoked it, it had tasted more like charcoal and none of the flavored tobacco itself. Now is the issue because of how I'm setting it up or is it the brands I'm using? So far my habits for setting it up have been putting ice in the base, putting the stem an inch under water, putting the tobacco into the bowl up until there is about a centimeter of space between the Tobacco top layer and the top of the bowl, and I pook 9 small into the tin foil on top of the bowl. After every use of the hookah, I clean every part of the hookah with dish soap and warm water and a scrubber. Please Help. Edited June 4, 2012 by ShishaMisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamyxcupcakes Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Are you making sure the coals are completely lit before smoking? Also does it ever feel harsh? What size is your bowl? My guess is the coals still haven't completely lit when you start smoking. Or you might be using too much heat. Loss of flavor is pretty common when too much heat is used, also burnt tobacco kind of has that taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunare Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Try keeping your setup the same, but removing the ice from the base and using lukewarm water, then let us know how the flavor changes. Ice is supposed to cool the smoke at the cost of flavor, so that might be it. Also, I don't know how good of an idea it is to use dish soap for cleaning, since the residue may linger between sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Make sure the coals are completely grey not black at all with those, also you could cut them in half before lighting them of course and seperate them evenly on the bowl, picture of better description could always help you better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 the 3k 40mm is a huge coal. if you have a smaller bowl it sound like too much heat.try Half a fully lit coal and see if that fixes it. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 The basics are packing and heat management. Sounds like you're setting the hookah up properly, but not packing the bowl properly and possibly not managing your heat properly as well. Check out my video on how to pack a standard bowl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4t-yDnDwjw&list=UU5it5IKnNUaxNFx9kPcV94Q&index=6&feature=plcp Heat management, I agree with what Pavo and Ray said. Try using halves, one half on each side of the bowl, starting them out by hanging off slightly and moving them in as the session progresses. Very important to make sure the coals are fully lit before placing them on the bowl. As Pavo mentioned, they will be fully grey, no black remaining. Never hurts to give this thread a lookover: http://www.hookahforum.com/topic/40373-beginners-guide-to-hookah/ Hope this helps, and let us know how it goes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Also, to add onto the good advice everyone else has given, don't be afraid to put more tobacco in the bowl. Packing the tobacco in to where it is touching the tobacco always leads to more flavorful sessions for me. The tobacco touching the foil is NOT a bad thing, as some people seem to think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='mustang67n' timestamp='1338937948' post='548662'] Also, to add onto the good advice everyone else has given, don't be afraid to put more tobacco in the bowl. Packing the tobacco in to where it is touching the tobacco always leads to more flavorful sessions for me. The tobacco touching the foil is NOT a bad thing, as some people seem to think. [/quote] Totally agreed. +1 rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1338939859' post='548664'] [quote name='mustang67n' timestamp='1338937948' post='548662'] Also, to add onto the good advice everyone else has given, don't be afraid to put more tobacco in the bowl. Packing the tobacco in to where it is touching the tobacco always leads to more flavorful sessions for me. The tobacco touching the foil is NOT a bad thing, as some people seem to think. [/quote] Totally agreed. +1 rep. [/quote] Also agreed. I find that people underpacking a bowl is a common issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy Oma Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 What hose are you using, and how old is it? I have experienced flavor issues when using an old hose that is ghosted with other flavors, somehow the mix of flavors seem to cancel each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tammydavis Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I use ice sometimes with mine and sometimes i dont but i keep my [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]tobacco in the fridge and just pull it out as i fill a bowl then back in fridge i use 33mm charcoal[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 [quote name='tammydavis' timestamp='1339025724' post='548751'] I use ice sometimes with mine and sometimes i dont but i keep my [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]tobacco in the fridge and just pull it out as i fill a bowl then back in fridge i use 33mm charcoal[/font][/color] [/quote] If you like this method, then all power to you. But fridges dehydrate their contents I would suggest not putting your tobacco in the fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aladdinshisha Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 [quote name='Judy Oma' timestamp='1339020295' post='548748'] What hose are you using, and how old is it? I have experienced flavor issues when using an old hose that is ghosted with other flavors, somehow the mix of flavors seem to cancel each other out. [/quote] Totally agree, some flavours seem to add to one another and others negate each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 [quote name='tammydavis' timestamp='1339025724' post='548751'] I use ice sometimes with mine and sometimes i dont[u][b] but i keep my [/b][/u][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][u][b]tobacco in the fridge[/b][/u] and just pull it out as i fill a bowl then back in fridge i use 33mm charcoal[/font][/color] [/quote] This is an issue. Fridge is not the place for tobacco! Don't worry, just seal it up airtight and keep it out, room temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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