brookesaywhatx Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Found this on youtube ([color=#ff0000]Sorry, we don't allow links to other forum's videos Mushrat[/color])) That's crazy! Has anyone actually had clouds like that? How do you do it? I've tried putting milk in the base before but it just bubbled up and went through the hoses and leaked The only way I ever had clouds that even compare to that is when theres too much heat and it tastes like shit lol. Also, if anyone has any vids of their clouds that'd be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Sadly, there's no "easy trick" for getting awesome clouds. (And milk is always a terrible plan, so be glad those days are behind you!) Here are the basics: 1 - Get a hose with a good, easy pull. The big washable hoses like Narbish and Nammor are great for clouds. 2 - Perfect your heat management and packing. (This is the hard work, and will take careful trial and error) 3 - Train your lungs to be made of steel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSmokes Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Those are just nuts...I've never gotten em close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brookesaywhatx Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Lol, I have a nogoom hose coming in the mail...though I can't find many reviews about them...hope I didn't make a mistake by getting one! I've always had "small lungs". Maybe its because I'm a girl lol. Even with cigarettes its harder for me to take a long drag like other people I know. I take like 5 minutes longer then to finish one than others too lol. With hookah its a bit easier, guess I will have to keep practicing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The dude probably has a very uncomfortable amount of coal on his bowl. These "super cloud" videos are usually like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yah those clouds are pretty beast. Day to day smokes my clouds are probably 80% of that, but I pack nakhla tight in a small (but more like a medium) phunnel with 4 ch or coco coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yeah.. what Epoch said.. also as you can see he is STRAINING himself to pull as much smoke into his lungs as possible. I've been smoking hookah for 6 years now, and if I even attempt to do that, I start gagging. lol I have friends that smoke insane amounts and their clouds are similar to that without using too much heat, etc. But I've smoked the same bowl with them and cannot achieve the same results. Some people just have massive lungs *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I agree that a large part of it is lung capacity. People always say to me what the hell?! You just hit that for like 2 seconds, how did you get that cloud? And I respond .. umm I don't know ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendetta_revived Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Not a video, but.. [img]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2133/vlcsnap2011070502h43m41.png[/img] [img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3402/vlcsnap2011070502h43m31.png[/img] [img]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7678/vlcsnap2011070502h43m19.png[/img] [img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1386/vlcsnap2011070502h42m31.png[/img] [img]http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2927/vlcsnap2011070502h42m10.png[/img] [img]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5788/vlcsnap2011070502h41m06.png[/img] That was a session of AF mint in a crown micro using 2 coals on the very edge and a wind cover. I don't normally gun for huge ass clouds, but that session was one of a kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Seems pretty good sized. As mattarios said, with regular smoking days...75-80% of that is normal. With a touch more heat and consciously trying to pull in more than normal...that cloud size is easily achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I get great clouds sometimes, but for me it's not about the clouds. It's about the taste, the mood, the pure enjoyment of a long session where everything goes right. It's the "I've got everything done that needs doing and now I'm going to enjoy some leisure time" attitude. Watch a movie or a ballgame and enjoy a great bowl of tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Keep in mind half of those dudes on YouTube showing off their monster clouds are burning the shit out of their bowl... Either because they're showing off or they have no clue what they're doing. It's all about finding the happy medium of clouds vs. flavor. I always lean on the flavor side, but I would say my clouds are pretty decently sized. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT- MINE'S DECENTLY SIZED. Wait, wut? This ain't no e-peen war... But seriously though, once you practice your heat management a bit longer, you'll get the hang of it, and be able to easily obtain clouds that are pretty impressive. I usually do Nakhla or Tangiers tobacco packed very tight up to the inner spire but slightly below the outer rim in either 1) a Tangiers Mini Phunnel with two coconut coals, or 2) a Tangiers Small Phunnel with two, sometimes three coconut coals. I also use a windcover, not to keep the wind off my bowl (I usually smoke inside anyway), but rather as a heat management tool. With a windcover you can typically use only two coals where you would have used three, or perhaps in situations where three is too much, but two isn't enough. In other words... it can help find your happy medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yah to clarify what my previous post said, I can get 80% of those clouds without burning it but generally i'll get even half that size for clouds and be completely content as long as the flavor is there I don't really care about clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticmanzor Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 My friend and I got some pretty wicked clouds with some steam stones. We used three coconara's in a vortex bowl. They were pretty darn thick clouds. The best part is, stones don't burn. There is no buzz though, so just be aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 [quote name='plasticmanzor' timestamp='1339557673' post='549155'] My friend and I got some pretty wicked clouds with some steam stones. We used three coconara's in a vortex bowl. They were pretty darn thick clouds. The best part is, stones don't burn. There is no buzz though, so just be aware of that. [/quote] Yeah, fully agreed- steam stones, the Shiazo brand ones anyway, put out the biggest clouds I've ever managed personally. Really blew me away. Just sucks there's no nicotine, but Santino at CrownHookahs said you can put some nicotine drops in them! Haven't tried it myself, but going to someday. Still though, there's just something about tobacco that nothing will ever replace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticmanzor Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 The stones we used weren't Shinzo, but they were still really good. Good taste and of course, smoke. I don't really care for the buzz sometimes. I tend to be a lightweight when It comes to stimulants and alcohol, so the buzz is a little much for me and I start getting queasy. Because of this, the stones are kind of a refreshing change. [quote name='Chreees' timestamp='1339558338' post='549156'] [quote name='plasticmanzor' timestamp='1339557673' post='549155'] My friend and I got some pretty wicked clouds with some steam stones. We used three coconara's in a vortex bowl. They were pretty darn thick clouds. The best part is, stones don't burn. There is no buzz though, so just be aware of that. [/quote] Yeah, fully agreed- steam stones, the Shiazo brand ones anyway, put out the biggest clouds I've ever managed personally. Really blew me away. Just sucks there's no nicotine, but Santino at CrownHookahs said you can put some nicotine drops in them! Haven't tried it myself, but going to someday. Still though, there's just something about tobacco that nothing will ever replace... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 put a bunch of coal on your bowl and lie about it not being harsh or smoke tangiers like a champ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epoch Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1339560166' post='549158'] put a bunch of coal on your bowl and lie about it not being harsh or [u][b]smoke tangiers like a champ.[/b][/u] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo21 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 [quote name='mustang67n' timestamp='1339542716' post='549129'] Yeah.. what Epoch said.. also as you can see he is STRAINING himself to pull as much smoke into his lungs as possible. I've been smoking hookah for 6 years now, and if I even attempt to do that, I start gagging. lol I have friends that smoke insane amounts and their clouds are similar to that without using too much heat, etc. But I've smoked the same bowl with them and cannot achieve the same results. Some people just have massive lungs *shrugs* [/quote] Hes talking about me and yah i can do it but im not breathing it all into my lungs chris and i had a post on a different topic about breathing methods maybe he can find it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 1. Hose and shit doesnt really matter - I got clouds like this before I had a decent draw hose or any real knowledge (before I was even a member here) 2. You dont have to burn the fuck out of the bowl to get these clouds and it doesnt have to be tangies (though it can be, tangiers produces amazing clouds), this can also be done with AF, the nakhla mizo line can get amazing cloudage but not as huge as tangiers and AF. These are all the brands that ive had the chance to smoke so far. 3. Packing is the key along with heat management, you will notice too much heat with AF will reduce clouds to shit along with the taste. 4. As Pavo said, if you learn to breathe right (I used to sing in a choir and shit) you can fill up your lungs better but I swear people with tiny lung capacity have gotten very nice clouds with a nicely packed bowl of AF BTW, avoid milk like the plague, though unlike most people on the forums Im 100% sure it makes the smoke feel different for some reason its NOT worth it, youre just gonna ruin your shit Actually that goes for most things you could try to replace water with, but milk is really bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang67n Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yes, I was talking about Pavo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I got some monstrous clouds out of my AF2 using KM single pear, KM hose, FSB. But monstrous AF clouds and much harder to come by that typical Tangiers thunderclouds imo. *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 [quote name='Coyote' timestamp='1339588649' post='549177'] I got some monstrous clouds out of my AF2 using KM single pear, KM hose, FSB. But monstrous AF clouds and much harder to come by that typical Tangiers thunderclouds imo. *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* [/quote] I agree with you but Tangiers packing requirement naturally makes for bigger cloudage I personally think. A tobacco that calls for a thicker, heavier, tighter packed bowl has better smoking characteristics than say AF that generally likes a fluffy pack. Which is why Nakhla and Tangiers OWN! To bad Tangiers has always been so finicky for me that I don't smoke it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I cant get close to AF clouds with Nakhla tho. Dont get me wron, I friggen love nakhla and the volume of smoke is very good but AF is just a monster cloud tobacco if you pack it right And no burn with good flavor clouds is what im talking about, none of that overheated nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I get bigger clouds w mizo than I have in the past with AF but I haven't had AF in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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